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Egbert Souse posted:The same complaint is made about Warner MPI restorations. That they're yellow? Which ones?
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Steen71 posted:That they're yellow? Which ones? This is just from reading HTF and Blu-Ray.com, but some people were complaining that there was too much yellow/sepia on Rio Bravo and The Searchers. I also remember people complaining over The Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind, and Singin' in the Rain for the same reason, though when the mid-2000s restorations came out (4K origin except for SITR, which was 2K). Even though Oz looked exactly like a dye-transfer print I saw around that time. I tend to notice that the Blu-Rays that look too yellow or green look fine on my calibrated 4K display, but look off on my 1080p monitor. Even if I capture a screenshot, it doesn't look quite like what's on my display. I'm guessing it has to do with color space?
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Egbert Souse posted:Blu-Ray.com quote:Blu-Rays I've been biting my tongue on this a long time, but I know you like to be really particular about details, so ... the "r" in Blu-ray isn't capitalized. The format is Blu-ray Disc, so the shorthand would be Blu-ray. 
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Timby posted:I've been biting my tongue on this a long time, but I know you like to be really particular about details, so ... the "r" in Blu-ray isn't capitalized. The format is Blu-ray Disc, so the shorthand would be Blu-ray. I never noticed that before. That's like the FedEx arrow.
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Is it too late to change the name to something not stupid?
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TheScott2K posted:Is it too late to change the name to something not stupid? A few companies were trying to get BRD into the parlance before Sony smacked them around.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:38
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I thought the shorthand was BD.
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Jul 14, 2017 20:48
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I was always fond of saying "blue disc."
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:yeah Martin is a pretty big omission, I imagine there's gotta be a rights issue or something. If I recall correctly the rights to that are absurdly expensive, although Arrow films did release a DVD version of it that's apparently the best release of the film so far. They had a blu-ray planned but for reasons I'm not sure of they had to abort those plans. ruddiger posted:There's Always Vanilla is really rare, I've never seen it but have heard its title mentioned plenty when talking about Romero's early work. I'm glad it's included because I've always wanted to see it. It's not a horror film and from what I hear it's not very interesting. It's pretty cool that it's been preserved though.
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all-Rush mixtape posted:I thought the shorthand was BD. Yep, it is.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:08
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I like the name Blu-ray because it makes me feel like I'm watching movies in the future.
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Jul 14, 2017 21:09
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Sir Lemming posted:BD2000 Blues Druthers 2000
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Jul 14, 2017 22:07
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BD-209, home theater pacification.
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Timby posted:BD-209, home theater pacification.
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Blu-ray is Sony's revenge for Betamax losing the format war. Speaking of Sony, they're releasing 976-EVIL on Oct 3 (extras are a commentary with Robert Englund and Nancy Englund and the extended video version).  They brought back the 80s Columbia video logo, too.
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all-Rush mixtape posted:I thought the shorthand was BD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHiGNgBu0U
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Egbert Souse posted:This is just from reading HTF and Blu-Ray.com, but some people were complaining that there was too much yellow/sepia on Rio Bravo and The Searchers. Ah, that one. Yeah, that was Bruce Kimmel. Let's just say that I've had some major disagreements with him over the years, mostly because he's completely incapable of spotting noise reduction and edge enhancement. According to him the UK edition of Zulu looks amazing. quote:I also remember people complaining over The Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind, and Singin' in the Rain for the same reason I can't say that rings any bells. In any case, none of these suddenly had radically different colour schemes compared to what we'd seen on home video before. Some might have slightly bluer blues, redder reds, or warmer yellows, none have a blanket yellow tint that affects the entire image - the way that everything colour graded by Ritrovata does. I'm sure they do excellent restoration work, they just need to stay the hell away from colour grading: Everything turns yellow, and has terrible contrast and elevated blacks. It is their hallmark. When they just do the restoration but not the colour grading, the result is fine (Breaker Morant, for example). And then we have bizarre situations with something like Demons, where Arrow released the film the way they received it from Ritrovata (yellow, poor contrast, elevated blacks - as always), and Synapse either did their own colour grading or at the very least fixed what they got from Ritrovata: http://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=10319&d2=10320&s1=100576&s2=100588&i=6&l=0 On the other hand when Arrow received Deep Red from Ritrovata, they found the result unacceptable and fixed it, fortunately. quote:I tend to notice that the Blu-Rays that look too yellow or green look fine on my calibrated 4K display, but look off on my 1080p monitor. Even if I capture a screenshot, it doesn't look quite like what's on my display. I'm guessing it has to do with color space? I guess. My projector is calibrated (though I must admit that it was done years ago and I should probably have it re-calibrated) and I've tried to set up my monitor so they match. It's not perfect, and when I want to make sure about something, I feed the signal straight to the projector.
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Egbert Souse posted:Blu-ray is Sony's revenge for Betamax losing the format war. Awsome. I never wanted to buy the DVD because it was full screen. Now someone release Fright Night 2.
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The Invisible Man UV code: W3KXNE49WT6K
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smallmouth posted:The Invisible Man UV code: W3KXNE49WT6K Thanks!
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The problem I have is that there's nothing being compared that's reliable. Ideally, you get the director and/or cinematographer involved. Sometimes an editor or color timer can help. Then there's prints archived specifically as answer or reference prints. You probably want to compare multiple prints. When none of that's available, it really takes some serious expertise. The director or cinematographer might want to change things. Or there's issues with the elements that necessitate compromises. I see a trend in European restorations (not just Ritrovata) to go with less conventional color timing. But most examples I've seen were supervised by reliable people.
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Finally got through all of Flicker Alley's Early Women Filmmakers set! Overall, I'm really impressed by the quality of the set. Many films are from less than ideal prints ranging from what seem to be nth generation 16mm. Though, a few films are from full digital restorations. Even many of those from lesser prints still look very good. The only questionable transfer on the set is Mabel's Strange Predicament, which seems converted from 1080i to 1080p since there's jaggies. The highlights are Lois Weber's Suspense (1913) and last feature film The Blot (1921), Olga Preobrazhenskaia's The Peasant Women of Ryazan (1927), a trio of silhouette films by Lotte Reiniger, Claire Parker and Alexandre Alexioff's Night on Bald Mountain (1935 - from a stunning full restoration), Mary Ellen Bute's Spook Sport (1939 - only color film on the set), and Maya Deren's Meshes of the Afternoon (1943). Marie-Louise Iribe's Le Roi des Aulnes (1929) and Dorothy Davenport's (Mrs. Wallace Reid's) The Woman Condemmned (1934) are very strange films. Oddly enough, the '29 film manages to have much better editing and sound work than the film made five years later, which seems like it may be from a workprint. No notes on film elements are provided except for Night on Bald Mountain (2K from original nitrate print and dupe negative). There's also a brief excerpt from Dance, Girl Dance, which seems like the result of being unable to license the entire film. It'll be interesting to see what Kino puts on their set, which is in the works. Next up, I'm going to slowly go through Kino's Pioneers of African-American Cinema set.
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Egbert Souse posted:The problem I have is that there's nothing being compared that's reliable. Oh, I agree. A current example is Suspiria where there's a recent European edition which has very strong greens; that one was restored by people who claim to have had access to a perfect answer print (or possibly master print - it gets confusing). Then there's an upcoming Synapse edition which, judging by screenshots and statements from Synapse, look radically different; but they also claim to have some perfect print to back up their edition... Sooo, who you gonna trust? I bought the Italian edition because it was dirt cheap, and the greens do come across as too strong from time to time. Still, until the Synapse edition comes out, I think it's the way to watch the film. I mean, provided you can put up with Argento's idiosyncrasies.
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Watching art films for decades, have none of you learned that there is no universal truth on which you can rely
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Target has a good assortment of movies for 3/$11. Ended up picking up Glengarry Glen Ross, The Terminator, and Fight Club.
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Egbert Souse posted:Target has a good assortment of movies for 3/$11. Ended up picking up Glengarry Glen Ross, The Terminator, and Fight Club. It's this one display that's been there for like 8 months, and they just can't get rid of these blu rays for any price. Unfortunately I already cleaned it out when they were $5 each. Target seems very close to going to just a single rack of new releases and nothing else, which is where things are headed in general.
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Basebf555 posted:It's this one display that's been there for like 8 months, and they just can't get rid of these blu rays for any price. Unfortunately I already cleaned it out when they were $5 each. Part of it is that they're more expensive on first run stuff. The new Bambi and Pinocchio Signature Editions are $26.99, while Best Buy has them for $19.99.
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Egbert Souse posted:Part of it is that they're more expensive on first run stuff. The new Bambi and Pinocchio Signature Editions are $26.99, while Best Buy has them for $19.99. Even Best Buy's selection is getting sparse. Both of my local stores have downsized their Blu/DVD section three times in the last year.
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In an effort to not go crazy over the criterion sale, is the lone wolf set worth picking up? I think I've only seen the first one, and it's been a while. I don't remember if these were good movies (good transfers?) or just popular for how over the top they were.
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Kingtheninja posted:In an effort to not go crazy over the criterion sale, is the lone wolf set worth picking up? I think I've only seen the first one, and it's been a while. I don't remember if these were good movies (good transfers?) or just popular for how over the top they were. Absolutely. They're all fantastic and even the American edit is worth watching for the intensely 80's synth score.
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Rirse posted:Sad timing for this to come out. gently caress, at least I didn't find this out via the meme thread. RIP.
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I bet the price of Dawn will double overnight. One of the better distributors NEEDS to pick up the rights now. RIP Romero, you influenced so many lovely zombie movies.
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Liar Lyre posted:I bet the price of Dawn will double overnight. One of the better distributors NEEDS to pick up the rights now. RIP Romero, you influenced so many lovely zombie movies. According to some very informed posts earlier in this thread, it's already prohibitively expensive to license because of a 3D conversion the producer did after he got the rights back.
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The Crazies (both versions) is a bad movie, but Romero was cool and good.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:The Crazies (both versions) is a bad movie, but Romero was cool and good. I liked the remake quite a bit. 
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The Crazies loving rules
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