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corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
i feel like it's bad if i can hear the commentary over the crowd

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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

reminder to thank europe for voting for bayonetta so much in the smash poll that she got in

thanks europe

Macksy
Oct 20, 2008
On one hand I want Bayo to win, on the other hand I want this to be over...

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Good thing it's just smash rn cause Game of Thrones is gonna be on soon :toot:

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Street Fighter isn't even for another hour, smash ending early doesn't do anything.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




disney went to commercial with no warning right when the match was about to be either over or reset. somebody must have said gently caress into a mic huh?

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

Hell yeah Bayonetta

Karnegal
Dec 24, 2005

Is it... safe?

Tae posted:

Street Fighter isn't even for another hour, smash ending early doesn't do anything.

aww poo poo - well then, go bayo

Alfalfa The Roach
Oct 13, 2012

You need to be a badass first.
YEAH THAT'S A RESET

LET'S GO SALEM

LAY-ZX
Nov 10, 2009

Diddy's recovery is some drunk poo poo

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I'm still just listening to Bayo music instead of commentary so I'unno. I'm just happy the Bayo dream is alive.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Man, our girl has like, no finishers, huh?

SectumSempra
Jun 22, 2011

Bi-Han now we've got Bad Blood

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
The grand final for Smash 4 is going now? I though that Street Fighter 5 was supposed to be at 7. Does this mean it will start early?

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

LAY-ZX posted:

Diddy's recovery is some drunk poo poo

It's goddamn crazy.

It's also insane that Nintendo nerfed the hell out of Diddy because Zero was so goddamn dominant with him.

And two years later, look where he is.

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

this x song is still the best song in any smash ever

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.
More important question.

Is Salem actually the cat from teenaged witch? Because if so I'm calling bias.

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true

Dias posted:

Man, our girl has like, no finishers, huh?

She has a baker's dozen and they all kill at sub-70 percent, which is why Zero surviving them each time is so surprising. On most people, a Witch Twist is an easy chain into a kill.

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



I can't wait for a Lylat glitch to happen on national TV.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Unlucky7 posted:

The grand final for Smash 4 is going now? I though that Street Fighter 5 was supposed to be at 7. Does this mean it will start early?

No there's a tv deal with ESPN so it'll start at 8 or so regardless.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Maple Leaf posted:

She has a baker's dozen and they all kill at sub-70 percent, which is why Zero surviving them each time is so surprising. On most people, a Witch Twist is an easy chain into a kill.

so how the gently caress is zero only going down at 130%+

i don't understand this stupid game

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Dias posted:

so how the gently caress is zero only going down at 130%+

i don't understand this stupid game

it's cause he's good at the game op

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Yorkshire Tea posted:

It's goddamn crazy.

It's also insane that Nintendo nerfed the hell out of Diddy because Zero was so goddamn dominant with him.

And two years later, look where he is.

I mean, day 1 Diddy was the most broken character in smash history. He was the only one that can reliably kill at sub 80 while everyone else struggled to kill at 140%.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Dias posted:

so how the gently caress is zero only going down at 130%+

i don't understand this stupid game

good smash players are good at avoiding kill setups until high percentages

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Brother Entropy posted:

it's cause he's good at the game op

that makes no sense how can you be good at not getting launched into outer space even if di is a thing if bayonetta has good finishers

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Elyv posted:

good smash players are good at avoiding kill setups until high percentages

okay this makes a bit more sense, it's just salem not getting his setups

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Dias posted:

that makes no sense how can you be good at not getting launched into outer space even if di is a thing if bayonetta has good finishers

DI lets you control where you go when you get hit. If you guess wrong, you're dead. Like Marvel TC's, except for every hit.

Maple Leaf
Aug 24, 2010

Let'en my post flyen true

Dias posted:

that makes no sense how can you be good at not getting launched into outer space even if di is a thing if bayonetta has good finishers

It's because he's wiggling out of the starters so that the finishers don't work

mabels big day
Feb 25, 2012

Dias posted:

that makes no sense how can you be good at not getting launched into outer space even if di is a thing if bayonetta has good finishers

diddy is really good at not getting hit if he wants to

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is a v boring game lol

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.

Dias posted:

so how the gently caress is zero only going down at 130%+

i don't understand this stupid game

There are two major kill areas in smash (for most characters)

Around 70% and around 130% or so.

Bayo's low percentage kills involve comboing an opponent high up on the screen and then murdering them by kicking them off the top.

But when you go over 70% you start getting hit too far by attacks for combos to hit you.

So you then need to rack up a high enough % that a single attack will just knock them straight off, which is around 130%.

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

Dias posted:

Man, our girl has like, no finishers, huh?

Nope! That's why as cool as her combos are, she can't finish it off easily (on a good player obv)

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Is the music getting louder for anyone else

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
These two smash 4 players are really evenly matched and it's making it very fun to watch. Melee is never fun to watch.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Commissar Ken posted:

No there's a tv deal with ESPN so it'll start at 8 or so regardless.

I am sorry for being a nag, but I though the streaming schedule was at 7?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Unlucky7 posted:

I am sorry for being a nag, but I though the streaming schedule was at 7?

Times as PST, there's another 45 minutes.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Unlucky7 posted:

I am sorry for being a nag, but I though the streaming schedule was at 7?



You're right, I hosed that up.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I think I sorta understand. Diddy Kong is bad and should be murdered is what I'm getting. gently caress your coconut gun

Ventana
Mar 28, 2010

*Yosh intensifies*

Yorkshire Tea posted:


So you then need to rack up a high enough % that a single attack will just knock them straight off, which is around 130%.

It's worth noting that the exact numbers for this varies per stage and per character obv (like low vs high ceiling stages and different weights).

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SectumSempra
Jun 22, 2011

Bi-Han now we've got Bad Blood
It's interesting how melee is 16 years old and still gets major stream time.

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