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Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

the tax code really should be simplified tho

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Terror Sweat posted:

the tax code really should be simplified tho

Cruz!

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Concerned Citizen posted:

i think that the fact that gov. bureaucracy is so difficult to navigate has a severe negative effect on people's feelings about government. if every interaction you have with government is unpleasant, it's no surprise people become less enthusiastic about interacting with it more. if you've ever been on unemployment, you probably know how states try to make you feel as actively awful about it as possible. and if you didn't receive your check, you will find you can't contact them for help today because the phone lines on wednesday are reserved for people with odd number social security numbers.

i suspect this has had an impact on the movement toward conservativism among the less well-off, as they're more likely to face overloaded and unresponsive agencies.

Cutting workers and refusing capital investment into bureaucratic processes has been a very common method of killing support for public programs since forever.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Terror Sweat posted:

the tax code really should be simplified tho

Too bad H&R block and other tax service companies lobbied to make sure that didn't happen, for some reason.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Yeah, the Kid Rock thing is a decent point, it's just not especially well put. Which I'd normally think was odd for a professional musician but it's Kid Rock so.

I kid. But yeah, if you're running for a government position (that is, a job whose main requirement involves communication) on the premise that government isn't good at communicating with people, being good at communicating with people would seem to be a prerequisite.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

What's that thing where bureaucracy gets more bloated the closer it is to collapse

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Terror Sweat posted:

the tax code really should be simplified tho

It should, the IRS should also just provide you with a pre-filled tax estimate, there's no reason whatsoever that H&R Block and related firms should be collecting the economic rents that they are.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

LGD posted:

It should, the IRS should also just provide you with a pre-filled tax estimate, there's no reason whatsoever that H&R Block and related firms should be collecting the economic rents that they are.

~Job Creation~

Also lovely dems that idiots still support help this sort of thing along.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 60 minutes!

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

What's that thing where bureaucracy gets more bloated the closer it is to collapse

Spock Voice: "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy"

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar

Flip Yr Wig posted:

You heard it here first: free legal education. As an employee of a law school, I can only welcome this development.
I took the 'should' as in something that should happen and is not, and not something that already does and it's an individual fault if not.

Agnosticnixie
Jan 6, 2015
When Kid Rock says simplify the tax code he means Flat Tax though.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
9 9 9!

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Agnosticnixie posted:

When Kid Rock says simplify the tax code he means smoke weed and peel out though.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
aw shucky ducky!

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

zegermans posted:

Spock Voice: "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy"

Civ is a good series

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO3ot894Oyw&t=10s

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
someone said shucky ducky to me unironically irl the other day

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Aww, now I miss Herman Cain :smith:. Can't we get that guy an ambassadorship or something.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

What does that even mean

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
When the Democrats keep losing to the Pussy Grabbing Red Hats in 2018 and 2020 will we have multiple Suck Zone Threads?

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/887052199863492610

This guy rules

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfJCYZ06IGI

Flip Yr Wig
Feb 21, 2007

Oh please do go on
Fun Shoe

I'd accept it.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005


joe owns but get ready to panic every now and then when his depression goes into overdrive :smith:

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/LifeOfATyro/status/886092162991104000

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
fuckerberg above a sea of cows

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

When the Democrats keep losing to the Pussy Grabbing Red Hats in 2018 and 2020 will we have multiple Suck Zone Threads?

All threads shall become Suck Zone threads until the Suck Zone spreads from SA into the wider internet and begins its conquest of all forms of social media

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


panera democrats have become hamburger democrats

https://twitter.com/jbarro/status/887049194434965504
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/887061746858504192



Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkoidwsLXCg

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Oh Snapple! posted:

joe owns but get ready to panic every now and then when his depression goes into overdrive :smith:

poor joe, he's a really funny dude :smith:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

SKULL.GIF posted:

panera democrats have become hamburger democrats


Josh Barro, its worth noting, is an elitist in the most explicit sense. He thinks the elite are so due to merit, and that people should be deferential to them.

Also he was a Republican until DUMP was nominated, or not much earlier at least, and his dad is a Harvard economics professor. He also went to Harvard, blazing his own path, hamburger -eater style.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Oh the old tweets kind of indicate as much. Carry on.

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


http://www.centristproject.org/

:eyepoop:

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Dreylad posted:

poor joe, he's a really funny dude :smith:

i legitimately giggle every time i see his pinned tweet :3:

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



lol time for bipartisan debt reduction again!! the centrists!

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Agnosticnixie posted:

When Kid Rock says simplify the tax code he means Flat Tax though.

head tax :unsmigghh:

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


this country needs a sensible economic environment where private enterprises can flourish -centrists

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Condiv posted:

this country needs a sensible economic environment where private enterprises can flourish -centrists

this is absolutely true, which is why we need single payer and a more robust social safety net as well as a renewed focus on regulating anti-competitive business practices and reigning in rent-seeking

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


We shouldn't even humor them with "centrists", really, that implies they're staking out an ideological center between two positions. The Democrats are just Republican-Lite at this point. All the flavor, fewer cruelty calories.

If they were actually trying to find a middle ground between socialism and capitalism then yeah "centrist" would apply here. Or capitalism and any other ideology.

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The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

SKULL.GIF posted:

panera democrats have become hamburger democrats

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