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...! posted:If you have the auto chips turned on, that's literally impossible. Guess what I didn't have turned on
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Soooo, finally getting to this after beating Horizon and Zelda Am I supposed to be constantly underleveled? Like, it's not hard to beat overleveled enemies because you just dodge them and slam them with the fist (Memories man) until they die, but then some robot wants me to do a parade and I am suddenly fighting level 35 enemies as a sub 20 dude. Like, aside from that, this game is just mechanically so much better than the first game. Though I miss being a dad.
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Jul 17, 2017 23:39
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There are a couple sidequests like that one, and another in the canyon, that really shouldn't be available as early as they are. They're really a second playthrough kinda thing.
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Jul 17, 2017 23:41
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You'll be underleveled and eventually overlevelled.
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Jul 18, 2017 03:29
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To be more specific, the main quest auto adjusts enemy levels, side quests have fixed enemy levels. So you should always be fine for the main stuff but side stuff - don't be afraid to say "gently caress that" and come back later.
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Jul 19, 2017 10:23
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Akuma posted:To be more specific, the main quest auto adjusts enemy levels It definitely doesn't. Only levels that adjust at all are Moose/Boars and trash enemies in the shmup sections
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Jul 19, 2017 10:36
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I mean, murderizing overlevelled enemies aint hard: I was grinding chips a bit in the pit where you first meet white hair 1 and they're double my level. It was having to defend poo poo that was the issue. This game feels a lot more, condensed, than the first one. Also just got my first ending, ending K. Do the joke endings give you anything?
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Jul 19, 2017 17:11
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I mean, murderizing overlevelled enemies aint hard: I was grinding chips a bit in the pit where you first meet white hair 1 and they're double my level. It was having to defend poo poo that was the issue. There's an achievement for viewing all of the non DLC endings
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Jul 19, 2017 17:31
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Deceitful Penguin posted:I mean, murderizing overlevelled enemies aint hard There's a point when you just simply deal 0 damage if an enemy is enough levels higher than you
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Jul 19, 2017 17:41
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SE made Nier:A silver pendants:  https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/448669/nier-automata-silver-necklace-black-box Looks cool but not $169.99 + S&H cool. Alder fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 00:08
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Yeah that'd be awesome if it wasn't a loving hundred and seventy dollars what the poo poo is it made of actual spoiler for anyone who hasn't finished the game machine cores 
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Jul 21, 2017 00:27
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Hexenritter posted:Yeah that'd be awesome if it wasn't a loving hundred and seventy dollars what the poo poo is it made of Of children, I hope.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:47
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Mega64 posted:Of children, I hope. 
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Jul 21, 2017 00:53
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At least we can be sure that those machine cores did not come from the children of Pascal's village.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:57
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I bought this game at launch, basically did 2B's Chapter A playthrough in about 3 sittings, and then shelved it when I realized I hated hacking and I hated 9S. Since I've been without internet at my apartment for a month, and this is one of the only games I have left installed on my PC, I booted it up and hey, it's fun again. I beelined through 9S's playthrough to unlocking fast travel, and found the other two Pods. I bought like 10 +1 combust chips and some stuns and now i'm trying really hard to grind up weapons and chips before I do anything else because I want things to just explode when I look at them and I want to run really fast and have perfect diamond drop rate chips... but every guide and video I watch makes me feel like a total helmet kid. Like, I must have read 30 pages of reddit/gamefaqs/youtube comments trying to parse how to optimally farm and fuse chips but it all seems like Mandarin to me. Is it a better idea to farm chips before or after farming for weapon and Pod Upgrades? I can already tell that this is the kind of game that I will personally only enjoy once I have farmed up the gear I want and so I'm only really worried about that at the moment. Can anyone give me a baby-dum-dum guide for chips and upgrade materials? And please no Spoilers 
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Jul 21, 2017 01:09
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Mega64 posted:Of children, I hope. Hunt11 posted:At least we can be sure that those machine cores did not come from the children of Pascal's village. I don't know about that, I mean, what else were you going to do with them? Bust Rodd posted:Is it a better idea to farm chips before or after farming for weapon and Pod Upgrades? I can already tell that this is the kind of game that I will personally only enjoy once I have farmed up the gear I want and so I'm only really worried about that at the moment. Can anyone give me a baby-dum-dum guide for chips and upgrade materials? honestly farming chips isn't that worth it period, unless maybe you're doing hard mode; the level scaling (or lack thereof, for most quests) is so wonky that the game oscillates wildly between "2 hours of hitting things for 1hp" and "literal faceroll", and any time you're in the former situation you should just walk away and come back later. if you spend any time grinding you're going to outlevel everything forever and the game will be pretty boring throughout; just ask the dude who ground up level 99 before getting to the quick travel unlock in Chapter A. Re: chips, fuse  chips with other every time it allows you to do so, fuse the cheapest ones that aren't together until you can replace them with the versions of the same. buying chips outright are only worth it for some niche non-combat chips.most weapon/pod upgrade materials can be purchased outright later in the game so you probably don't want to waste hours of your life farming for them early. of the ones that aren't farmable, I believe you can get all of them you'll need from sidequests as long as you're not selling off non-vendor-trash materials. Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 01:14
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I don't know about that, I mean, what else were you going to do with them? That machine core doesn't look as though it had sharp metal shoved through the center.
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Jul 21, 2017 01:52
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[quote="“Bust Rodd”" post="“474566904”"] Since I’ve been without internet at my apartment for a month, and this is one of the only games I have left installed on my PC, I booted it up and hey, it’s fun again. [/quote] There are several moments in the third playthrough that are enormously improved by having network access. I recommend waiting to start that route until after your internet situation is fixed. Be careful; this thread has plenty of major unmarked spoilers in it.
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Jul 21, 2017 03:24
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Tatumje posted:There are several moments in the third playthrough that are enormously improved by having network access. I recommend waiting to start that route until after your internet situation is fixed. Be careful; this thread has plenty of major unmarked spoilers in it. I was never without can you spoil those for me?
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Jul 21, 2017 03:48
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[quote="“Len”" post="“474571270”"] I was never without can you spoil those for me? [/quote] Huge Route C spoiler: I was attempting to obscure the fact that network access is needed in order to finish Ending E. It is nearly impossible without network access for support, and it’ll be a massive cockblock if he runs into it. Network access does add some ambience to boss rooms in route C with the dead body mechanic. I remember the hacking tower fight and at least one other fight had a ton of ‘Dark Souls bloodstains’ scattered around the arena.
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Jul 21, 2017 04:02
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Tatumje posted:Huge Route C spoiler: I was attempting to obscure the fact that network access is needed in order to finish Ending E. It is nearly impossible without network access for support, and it’ll be a massive cockblock if he runs into it. Ah gotcha wasn't sure if there was more to it than that
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Jul 21, 2017 04:37
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Man, the endless slaughter in that pit where you first fight white hair is hilarious; I reached level 30 from 23 in like no time. Any other good places like that? Also, it feels like ending A comes rather, abruptly? Like, I felt it wasn't signposted well enough. Do I have to redo all the sidequests? And all this stuff talking about internet access, do I need to have Playstation + for it to work? Also; any reccs for cool weapons? I mean, cypress sticks and iron pipes are one thing but I got so many weapons I have no idea what to do with...
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Jul 21, 2017 12:04
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Man, the endless slaughter in that pit where you first fight white hair is hilarious; I reached level 30 from 23 in like no time. Any other good places like that?
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Jul 21, 2017 12:22
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Also, it feels like ending A comes rather, abruptly? Like, I felt it wasn't signposted well enough. Do I have to redo all the sidequests? Route B is the world-building route. You only ‘redo’ side-quests that weren’t completed the first time around. You now know where the point of no return is, so finish up anything you want to do before heading to that boss battle. [quote="“Deceitful Penguin”" post="“474578435”"] And all this stuff talking about internet access, do I need to have Playstation + for it to work? [/quote] I’m 99% sure you don’t need PS+. Sometimes the game will turn it off seemingly randomly or during a patch download, but I think it’ll work. Do you ever come across android bodies in the game? If you do, it is working. Edit: [quote="“Deceitful Penguin”" post="“474578435”"] Also; any reccs for cool weapons? I mean, cypress sticks and iron pipes are one thing but I got so many weapons I have no idea what to do with... [/quote] Pretty much everything is viable. The gameplay is smooth, but it isn’t particularly deep. Virtuous Contract (2B) and Cruel Oath (9S) weapons are the “canon” weapons if you’re into that sort of stuff. Spear of the Usurper for 9S has the ability to randomly charm enemies, which is pretty cool. It’s a reward for a side-quest where you scan for stuff in the desert for a researcher. Know Such Peace fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 12:24
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Also, it feels like ending A comes rather, abruptly? Like, I felt it wasn't signposted well enough. Do I have to redo all the sidequests? I felt the same way about Ending A, but it will become perfectly clear why they did that after you get Ending B. As for the side quests, any you have already completed will still be completed on your second play through. Any quests you started but had not completed will be reset, however. Edit: The game will give you ample opportunity to go back and complete anything you missed in the future if you're concerned about getting that 100% save. The ONE THING you can permanently miss is a gag ending you get by losing to the super hard super secret optional boss that's inaccessible until the third play through. i am tim! fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 12:40
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:the pit is absolutely the best place for it but there's a few good places in route C as well Tatumje posted:Route B is the world-building route. You only ‘redo’ side-quests that weren’t completed the first time around. You now know where the point of no return is, so finish up anything you want to do before heading to that boss battle. How do I check if the game is online? And yeah, I got the feeling most things were ok but I was wondering if there were any clearly better ones like in the OG Nier. i am tim! posted:I felt the same way about Ending A, but it will become perfectly clear why they did that after you get Ending B. As for the side quests, any you have already completed will still be completed on your second play through. Any quests you started but had not completed will be reset, however.
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Jul 21, 2017 15:03
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Network access should be somewhere in the settings menu.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:37
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I don't know about that, I mean, what else were you going to do with them? HAHAHA, i wish they gave you enough pod upgrade materials from side quests. At least the pod upgrades don't matter that much, stupid loving water.
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I don't think I'm going to be able to beat the lvl 99 super secret boss. Can't even beat their first form.
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imweasel09 posted:HAHAHA, i wish they gave you enough pod upgrade materials from side quests. At least the pod upgrades don't matter that much, stupid loving water. Not going to lie, I was going to go for all the upgrades but I said "gently caress it" when I found out that there was a sidequest for like 5 simple gears that's only available during one specific between-plot-beat section that's about 1 minute of actual playtime. After I had spent 2 hours grinding for the 8 I needed from one random-drop location in the overworld. 
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Just finished path C today. What a journey. Does ending E and deleting your save actually feel satisfying? It seems like such a little payoff for what you get. Also, biggest D'oh! Moment for me was during path B and not knowing you didn't have to go through the amusement park to get back to the city. When the Goliath was attacked I went towards the park and gave me a joke ending which SET ME BACK 2 HOURS. 
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Jul 22, 2017 22:59
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Over There posted:Does ending E and deleting your save actually feel satisfying? It seems like such a little payoff for what you get. Annnnnnd now I'm misty-eyed.
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Man, I am not happy about losing my second sword, 9S fights so slowly compared to the drat dervish that 2B is. And they really shoulda made it clearer/easier to combat possess robits; having to sneak up on them was super irritating and I didn't even figure it out until I tried to get the rabbit to start fighting. At least I can finally get those impossible chests now with floaty robits!
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Jul 22, 2017 23:43
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Man, I am not happy about losing my second sword, 9S fights so slowly compared to the drat dervish that 2B is. And they really shoulda made it clearer/easier to combat possess robits; having to sneak up on them was super irritating and I didn't even figure it out until I tried to get the rabbit to start fighting. Don't forget to press L2 when you're hacking. I was poo poo at it till I realized that option. 
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Over There posted:Don't forget to press L2 when you're hacking. I was poo poo at it till I realized that option. Also don't forget to use the right control stick to aim. I went through the whole play through without knowing that. some bust on that guy fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Man, I am not happy about losing my second sword, 9S fights so slowly compared to the drat dervish that 2B is. And they really shoulda made it clearer/easier to combat possess robits; having to sneak up on them was super irritating and I didn't even figure it out until I tried to get the rabbit to start fighting. Yeah I was uncomfortable with 9S's combat style at first too, though it's an understandable concession to highlight that he's a Scanner model not a Battle model. Hot tip if you prefer combat over hacking for 9S: Use a spear, then hold the attack button to railgun robits in the face with it. Over There posted:Don't forget to press L2 when you're hacking. I was poo poo at it till I realized that option. And this is a real pro tip, I've seen so many people (and was, at one point, one of them) say that they didn't even know you could lock on in hacking mode. It's a gamechanger.
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You can't get those chests with floaty robots. In 9S's hands their float is significantly worse than his jump.
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RanKizama posted:Ending E absolutely pays off. Deleting your save data (which is optional) is more of a moral choice, but it does give you a nice warm feeling knowing that you're helping someone else out there get through that final struggle the way others helped you. But they don't actually need it. If someone actually needed my help, perhaps I would think about it. I had all my data backed up onto a external hard drive anyway. I recommend doing that if you want to delete your data.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Man, I am not happy about losing my second sword, 9S fights so slowly compared to the drat dervish that 2B is. With cypress stick and some critical up he tears through poo poo pretty fast.
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some guy on the bus posted:But they don't actually need it. If someone actually needed my help, perhaps I would think about it. I had all my data backed up onto a external hard drive anyway. I recommend doing that if you want to delete your data. Nah, that's actually super lame and misses the point hard.
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