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nickmeister posted:Or is it one of those deals where the pimp bursts into the room after you're done having sex and threatens to beat you up if you don't pay? There are no pimps in Thailand. Only Super Pimps.
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nickmeister posted:Call me naive, but is there a good reason to not fess up to being in it for the money if directly asked? I mean, it seems like it would save a lot of trouble if she just said, "Yes, I will charge you for sex." And then, if the other party is interested can just say, "Okay, how much?" Plausible deniability that any transaction is happening. It's win-win: you're "not paying for sex" and she's "not charging for it" but you get sex and she gets money and everybody's happier at the end of the day.
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nickmeister posted:Call me naive, but is there a good reason to not fess up to being in it for the money if directly asked? I mean, it seems like it would save a lot of trouble if she just said, "Yes, I will charge you for sex." And then, if the other party is interested can just say, "Okay, how much?" No this is what i was saying about everything in Thailand being on a sliding scale A lot of the girls who work in bars and are generally after money would still be happy to go along for free if someone was charming/handsome/whatever enough, or if they just want a nice comfy hotel bed to sleep in for the night Haier wasn't worried about being sprung with a surprise invoice the next morning, he's worried about accidentally sleeping with a prostitute and catching the A-bomb edit: Pirate Radar posted:Plausible deniability that any transaction is happening. It's win-win: you're "not paying for sex" and she's "not charging for it" but you get sex and she gets money and everybody's happier at the end of the day. yeah i mean i guess there's always this as well
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Pirate Radar posted:Plausible deniability that any transaction is happening. It's win-win: you're "not paying for sex" and she's "not charging for it" but you get sex and she gets money and everybody's happier at the end of the day. Eh, the guys we've encountered didn't seem so bothered by talking openly about what they were doing.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Eh, the guys we've encountered didn't seem so bothered by talking openly about what they were doing. Yeah, I should have been clear--not everybody cares about deniability
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oohhboy posted:Here's some actual content which Forjar would much like to comment on. The numbers save face once again! 6.9% isn't great because its a figure denominated in yuan (and also probably fabricated but even giving them the benefit of the doubt its bad) when denominated in dollars (ie a currency people actually give a gently caress about) thats 1.7% to put that in perspective the us economy grew at ~1.9% in q2 the ccp actually stopped publishing dollar denominated figures this year because it would poo poo on their face
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Fojar38 posted:6.9% isn't great because its a figure denominated in yuan (and also probably fabricated but even giving them the benefit of the doubt its bad) How the hell do they manage that? Nominal yuan and a changing exchange rate? I genuinely cannot figure out what you mean by this.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:...what. Yes. The yuan has weakened a shitload since 2014 so 6.9% denominated in yuan is actually far weaker than the headline figure implies
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if the question is "how do they manage to keep this fact out of public discourse" the answer is that they don't, but mainstream reporting on china is hilariously bad and people keep on comparing China having 6.whatever% growth (in yuan) to the USA having 2% growth (in dollars) as though those are directly comparable growth rates people who actually have to put their money where their mouth is have definitely noticed though
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lol https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/status/887038213059100672
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China is a currency manipulator and deliberately devalues the yuan to support the growth rate.
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Sounds like a smart plan to me.
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Nanomashoes posted:Sounds like a smart plan to me. Its brilliant if you own homes in vancouver.
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All asians know in their heart they are really Chinese. What??
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Baronjutter posted:All asians know in their heart they are really Chinese. What?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLwDd10LVP8
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Accretionist posted:I spent more than that on lunch today. "As Mr. Chabuduo was climbing home, he hacked and spat out in an uneven breath, "The scaffolding and the foundation are cha.........cha........buduo – just about the same – and as long as everything is cha.........cha........buduo, then things will be fine. Why...........be............too serious?" After these final words, the structure collapsed."
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My Yakutian friends also complain about this. One took to saying she was from Siberia instead of Russia when she was in China. It worked because of course nobody would would kbow where that is and didn't want to lose face by questioning it.
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so I was in cambodia with a tour group we ended up a club, I gotta say it was a very moral group cause as soon as we realized it was mostly working girls we left, There was this nice 18 year old english dude he had the eyes of some lady and this older white dude just literally dragged her off the dance floor. Also haier do you have aids?
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Fojar38 posted:Wait people in China don't know where Siberia is? People in large insular counties are bad af at geography. See also: 'Murica.
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Fojar38 posted:Wait people in China don't know where Siberia is? fun game: when someone asks where you're from, make up a country like 雪力加大 and if they ask where it is just tell them it's north of Belarus or something. ends the conversation pretty quickly
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LimburgLimbo posted:People in large insular counties are bad af at geography. See also: 'Murica. really, the only people who are good at geography are folks who depend heavily on multipolar trade for their living and are globalized af high-rise offices of manhattan, you might see some good at geography folks. fuckoff towers in shanghai
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The best geographic knowledge comes from nerds who play mapgames. Many mapgames are banned in china for not depicting china as a single unified nation state for 6,000 years.
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When you say mapgames... Like civ etc?
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Baronjutter posted:All asians know in their heart they are really Chinese. What?? He got that wrong. It's actually that all Asians know in their heart that their LAND is Chinese.
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Outrail posted:When you say mapgames... Like civ etc? There are people who can guess within a couple of feet for almost any location in the world. It's insane poo poo.
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Fojar38 posted:Wait people in China don't know where Siberia is? People in America don't know where Canada is. 
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Outrail posted:When you say mapgames... Like civ etc? Like EU4, Victoria, Hearts of Iron, any game that you're primarily looking at some sort of historical map.
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LimburgLimbo posted:People in large insular counties are bad af at geography. See also: 'Murica. If you go to a lesser known feature enough, you can fool most people. Hell, you would have to be near geography bee material to see through obscure regional references like "Appalachia" and "Sonora" and know where the hell they're talking about, or even to ask for a clarification. But economic and special interest do fuel study and knowledge; you'd be surprised how many people learned about Iraqi and Afghan geography/political maps through it being mentioned on the news because they knew someone there.
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Baronjutter posted:Like EU4, Victoria, Hearts of Iron, any game that you're primarily looking at some sort of historical map. You forgot Medieval: Total War.
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what's "weeaboo" in Chinese? https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-anyone-be-chinese-1500045078 I bolded my personal "what the gently caress" sections The Wall Street Journal posted:Who is Chinese? The answer may seem simple at first: a person who looks Chinese. Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Holy poo poo Daniel Bell's unapologetic belief in authoritarian governance on the basis of "meritocracy" makes sense, he's the equivilent of someone who goes to Japan dressed like an anime I knew he was a shithead but I didn't know that the reason for it was so goony
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Ramadu posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3811789 I can't stop laughing Help me
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The Great Autismo! posted:fun game: when someone asks where you're from, make up a country like 雪力加大 and if they ask where it is just tell them it's north of Belarus or something. ends the conversation pretty quickly 
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Imperialist Dog posted:Or consider my own case. Canadian by birth, with Caucasian physical features, I have lived and worked in China for more than two decades, speak the Chinese language, identify with Chinese culture and am now a permanent resident of China. But almost no one considers me Chinese. 
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I've seen quite a few westerns wearing those straw lampshade nong hats out and about recently, everyone looks at them like what the gently caress are you doing.
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Khorne posted:Nah. There's a google maps game. https://geoguessr.com Baronjutter posted:The best geographic knowledge comes from nerds who play mapgames. Many mapgames are banned in china for not depicting china as a single unified nation state for 6,000 years. Imperialist Dog posted:This is a recurrent pattern. When China is powerful and secure, foreigners are welcome and considered employable, including at the highest levels of government. When China is weak, foreigners are often viewed with suspicion and even hatred. She told me he signs these 3-6 month contracts and then he sits guarded 24 hours per day, usually working 6 days and then getting a free day in his hotel room to rest. They take his phone and everything else and he is under constant watch while he goes through their files and data. The government's fear is that he'll be contacted or attacked by someone connected to the companies, or have the data ruined by anything outside. He has to go full radio silence for the duration of the work. They can't trust any Mainlander to do this, and won't even hire ABCs because of "You look like us, so you are us, until we say you're not one of us, but for all purposes you are still us" things. He's been all over China, but only has seen what's outside the windows in these places. He says it's nerve-wracking and tiring. I asked her why he keeps taking contracts again and again, but I realized he would be doing the same work in any other country because this is his job with the firm. She said he speaks and reads Chinese fluently, so this is where he can get get continuous work in China. His salary was about 6-7k RMB per hour (about $1000 USD), working random hours per day, for months on end. Despite the high pay and money he can put away, he's gotten a touch of pure greed and should have retired a very long time ago. His health is completely failing from zero exercise and really poor diet, probably smoking a lot, etc., and she said every time he finishes a contract he takes a month off and says he's done with it forever, and then goes back again like an idiot. I told her to marry him and get into his will, because he probably won't last another 5 years. Anyway, I tie all this together because being a legitimate foreign expert in keeping the CCP from imploding in on itself because locals are too corrupt to trust is probably one of the few "almost high-level government" jobs a foreigner can do. LOL
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Atlas Hugged posted:You'd have to be more familiar with Thailand. I can't say if it's ethical or not, but the girls have a surprisingly large amount of autonomy. They're poor and usually from the provinces and have come to Bangkok for the express purpose of being a sex worker, but they're not trafficked and they can usually turn guys down if they don't want to sleep with them, though economic pressures will often motivate them to. There are of course trafficked girls from Vietnam and Myanmar, but that's atypical and not at the places foreigners go or have immediate access to. Sexpat spotted
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McGavin posted:Westology is an occasional series in which Chinese experts explain the West Looks like one of the AO classics.
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