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Twin Cinema posted:I just spent my day off reading Patrick O'Sullivan's book, and my god, I didn't realize the extent of the horrors that he had to live through. His father was an absolute madman and controlled every aspect of his life. He was pretty much forced to train and play hockey 24/7 from a young age. The book feels like a gut punch at the end when Pat goes back to all his former coaches to ask them why they didn't do anything. Marc Crawford, piece of poo poo? Why, I never would have guessed.
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Koopa Kid posted:Also he has a full NMC which kinda tanks the conspiracy theories about trading the contract. Yeah, the Leafs are stuck with the full weight of that contract. You'd think after Brett Lebda Mike Komisarek Jeff Finger Colby Armstrong Jason Blake Tim Connolly David Clarkson Stephane Robidas Matt Martin they'd maybe give it a moment's pause before signing an older dude to a big money UFA deal for no good reason, but I guess not.
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Twin Cinema posted:I just spent my day off reading Patrick O'Sullivan's book, and my god, I didn't realize the extent of the horrors that he had to live through. His father was an absolute madman and controlled every aspect of his life. He was pretty much forced to train and play hockey 24/7 from a young age. The book feels like a gut punch at the end when Pat goes back to all his former coaches to ask them why they didn't do anything. This part seems a bit weird to me because he actually was high in TOI/G while in Edmonton (3rd in 2008-09, 4th in 2009-10), and he was 5th in 5v5 TOI/G in 2009-10. So it seems strange he'd claim that he was being used like a 3rd liner when it looks like he was being used as a top 6 player. Then again the majority of his games came when Pat Quinn was head coach so who knows if old man Quinn tried to get him to play more defensively than he would've liked. e: Also, I'd feel really bad and super sympathetic for O'Sullivan with what he had to go through, but the way he acts on social media is just disgusting and doesn't make me feel as sorry for him in some aspects. Koopa Kid posted:Also he has a full NMC which kinda tanks the conspiracy theories about trading the contract. No, you see, he's already agreed with Lou to waive it when it hits year 3 so that way the Leafs don't have to keep his cap hit on the books!!! Kilza fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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Zodijackylite posted:While Brassard was a bit unlucky, his boom in offense the previous two years also came from different deployment. His Corsi/Fenwick look great because he was shooting a lot - his 166 ES shots are by far a career high - but underlying that, he's both in a lesser role and declining a bit. His ES point totals were fairly consistent with his career totals, excepting two anomalies in the last two years. His last couple of seasons with the Rangers were also kind of outliers compared to the rest of his career. He had career years in his late 20's which is a bit odd and really seemed to stem from the fact that he and Zucc were awesome together
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Kilza posted:This part seems a bit weird to me because he actually was high in TOI/G while in Edmonton (3rd in 2008-09, 4th in 2009-10), and he was 5th in 5v5 TOI/G in 2009-10. So it seems strange he'd claim that he was being used like a 3rd liner when it looks like he was being used as a top 6 player. Then again the majority of his games came when Pat Quinn was head coach so who knows if old man Quinn tried to get him to play more defensively than he would've liked. How does he act on social media? And, from the sounds of it, Quinn didn't have as much involvement as much involvement as a coach should with the team. Then again, I could be reading it completely wrong, since he only mentioned one anecdote.
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Kilza posted:This part seems a bit weird to me because he actually was high in TOI/G while in Edmonton (3rd in 2008-09, 4th in 2009-10), and he was 5th in 5v5 TOI/G in 2009-10. So it seems strange he'd claim that he was being used like a 3rd liner when it looks like he was being used as a top 6 player. Then again the majority of his games came when Pat Quinn was head coach so who knows if old man Quinn tried to get him to play more defensively than he would've liked. The way he acts on social media may be a byproduct of being abused his entire childhood and getting no empathy from any potential leaders/father figures. That doesn't magically make what he does okay (first I've heard of it), but you might want to reconsider that position. When people have clear paths showing what lead them to behave immorally, or in a way you don't understand, I find it's better to show them a little empathy. Don't hand-wave their behaviour; but don't lay all the blame at their feet.
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Colour me surprised that the city that can't afford police coverage for large swaths of its outlying districts but got swindled into spending $500m on a new hockey arena couldn't find a structural engineer capable of properly calculating the load bearing weight of its roof.
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Twin Cinema posted:How does he act on social media?
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I mean, there's next to no organizational carry-over from the Leafs bad UFA signings prior to Matt Martin, and the org definitely didn't learn a lesson from him because they think he's doing a great job as far as anyone can tell (while Dubas weeps softly from his office in the Ricoh). Also Jason Blake ended up being a perfectly productive guy on his contract, even after the leukaemia.
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Gio posted:curious about this, too https://twitter.com/consaucekilla/status/879491788179984384 https://twitter.com/realPOSULLIVAN/status/879494730903674881 Disgusting.
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ThinkTank posted:They didn't give up physical assets, but cap space is a commodity in and of itself. Considering JVR's contract is up in a year's time, it probably means the team can no longer fit him in under the cap. Is one year of Marleau worth losing JVR next summer? I'd argue no. With Bozak, Komarov, Robidas and Lupul coming off the books next year along with likely leavers Marincin and Marhcenko combined with the freed up cash from the Gleason/Cowen buyouts expiring gives them a bunch of space next year to work with. There's no reason they shouldn't be able to afford JVR if they want him. They have him, Nylander and Bozak replacement (Thornton?) to figure out next year. ThinkTank posted:He's also on a 35+ contract so the full amount counts against the cap if he retires early. The only relief they can get is to buy him out. This is 100% not true in that they get cap relief if he's put on LTIR. It's literally what they've been doing with Robidas on Robidas Island to get him off the books without buying him out or letting him "retire."
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Levitate posted:Rangers signed some goalie named Georgiev Georgiev is gettin upset
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ThinkTank posted:Colour me surprised that the city that can't afford police coverage for large swaths of its outlying districts but got swindled into spending $500m on a new hockey arena couldn't find a structural engineer capable of properly calculating the load bearing weight of its roof. Heaven's about to open its doors for two dozen angels with blood-red-stained wings.
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ThinkTank posted:They didn't give up physical assets, but cap space is a commodity in and of itself. Considering JVR's contract is up in a year's time, it probably means the team can no longer fit him in under the cap. Is one year of Marleau worth losing JVR next summer? I'd argue no. They're already trying to trade JVR so I suspect that's not going to be an issue. And, I think, it is probably a good idea to let JVR walk since his defence already comes close to negating his offence, which is kind of impressive, when you consider that his offence is really good. Anyway, I think that talking about cap space in this way is already a bit of a move from the original discussion, which was whether the Marleau signing represented the Leafs trying to go all in or skip the rebuild or something to that effect. To say that they didn't really give anything up to sign Marleau, in the context of the conversation, is probably best taken along the lines of "they didn't trade picks or prospects for anyone." Like sure they could've gotten a comparable player to Marleau for, like, 2.5/1 or something, but burning cap space is not the same as trading futures.
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Levitate posted:Rangers signed some goalie named Georgiev he's only 21 and was really good in lüga last year and people seem to think he's the odds on favorite to be hartford's starter. seems like a good potential backup option if pavelec falters as well. i like the signing.
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I am a fan of the rangers grabbing up European prospects and American ncaa players instead of Good Canadian Boys (tm)
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Glambags posted:I am a fan of the rangers grabbing up European prospects and American ncaa players instead of Good Canadian Boys (tm) Same. I'm also a fan of the Rangers stocking up on goaltending prospects because we're gonna need them in four years.
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Glambags posted:Oh I think it will be sooner than that Yeah but I'm curious to see what a proper defense and person in charge who isn't an idiot will do to help Hank.
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Glambags posted:Oh I think it will be sooner than that I hope he pulls a Jagr and challenges as many of Marty's records as he can.
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Hank seemed to have no confidence last year and it's hard to say if it's because of his own declining abilities or the tire fire in front of him. I think his reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be (which isn't a surprise at 35) but he could compensate for that by playing his angles a little more aggressively. Hopefully he worked with Allaire a lot this summer. Rangers have some pretty solid goaltending prospects but none are like knocking on the door at the moment. Shestyorkin might be the best one but will be in the KHL for another two years. Huska seems like he has a lot of protential but will probably be in college for another couple of years. Wall has possibly the best goalie name but would say he's behind Huska at the moment, but also shows some ability. Georgiev sounds interesting and is young so if he has a good AHL season could maybe a guy looking to handle some backup duties in the coming years
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Levitate posted:I think his reflexes are not as sharp as they used to be (which isn't a surprise at 35) but he could compensate for that by playing his angles a little more aggressively. Yeah isn't Hank largely known for staying super deep in his crease?
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Yes and I wouldn't be shocked at all if that was the main contributor in his decline, because in games I watched last year, the ones he played the best were the ones in which he was the most aggressive
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Yup he has had such good reflexes over his career that staying deeper in his crease gave him more time to pick up the puck and react. It's always been a bit of a balancing act though even when he was in his prime because there's a fine line between deep and too deep. At this point I think that yeah he has to be better at coming out and challenging shots or he's going to struggle again. That said I think he had a ridiculous number of high quality scoring chances against him last season and a lot of cross crease passes, etc. Lotta stuff that's hard for a goalie to stop.
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Twin Cinema posted:How does he act on social media? He's a loving prick. Also Renney did all the coaching, Quinn was essentially a mascot/grandfather.
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https://twitter.com/Dave_Stubbs/status/886967794822238209 Maximus Pacioretty
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Levitate posted:https://twitter.com/NYRangers/status/887365422668017664 Stepan's unfortunate hairline has found a challenger.
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Lmao his goofy tonsure got so bald it looks like he's got a hairy wart on the top of his head
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Spelling Mitsake posted:https://twitter.com/Dave_Stubbs/status/886967794822238209 Maximus Lorenzo Jim
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