Nanomashoes posted:

GalacticAcid posted:

runs a gigantic weird charity that accepts money from foreign governments with which she dealt as secretary of state, generally sucks poo poo

Nanomashoes posted:

zegermans posted:

just gonna bronze this post for the next time loquacius says left wing buy-in to right wing smears is a myth

Subjunctivitis posted:

The difference between Obama and Clinton is that Obama has a posed portrait whereas Clinton's is candid. This means....something.

zegermans posted:

just gonna bronze this post for the next time loquacius says left wing buy-in to right wing smears is a myth

hillaryman michael tomasky in 2015 posted:

As I’ve written previously, they should announce, and soon, a series of dramatic steps they will take to change the way the foundation does business.8 On April 15, the foundation announced three changes, including that it will now accept foreign money only from Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and the United Kingdom. The Clintons should go much farther, even to the point of downsizing the foundation’s operations, eliminating some programs.

And with respect to the speaking fees, while she stopped taking them once she became a candidate, it’s a little hard to understand why he can’t just stop for a while, or say he’ll no longer accept more than X amount, or do only ten a year, or something. They have amassed a fortune north of $125 million. The next several generations of Clintons could lead very expensive lives, and they would still be quite rich. But Bill seems defensive on this point. Recently, an NBC reporter asked him about the half-million-dollar fees, and he said: “I’ve got to pay our bills.”

They need to do better than this, and not just for political reasons, but because judgments about their integrity and future use of power are at stake. It’s one thing to be secretary of state. It’s another to be the president. A presidency can’t have questions like this swirling around it from day one. Imagine speculation that a White House decision with regard to Russia or Pakistan was influenced by a donation to the foundation from someone pursuing a business deal in one of those countries. Even if wholly unfounded, in today’s media environment, the mere speculation could alter outcomes. Bill Clinton could also be a tremendous asset to his wife’s administration as an envoy, but if the press is chasing “appearance of conflict” stories, it will be much harder for him to be effective.

The record so far suggests, though, that the Clintons won’t take dramatic steps. They’ll take just enough steps. It almost seems that they prefer living inside the maelstrom at this point. But it’s hard on a lot of other people.

GalacticAcid posted:

hillary clinton owned slaves

zegermans posted:

just gonna bronze this post for the next time loquacius says left wing buy-in to right wing smears is a myth

Condiv posted:

and made tons of money off a book about her owning slaves and how they had surprisingly human-like properties

Condiv posted:

and made tons of money off a book about her owning slaves and how they had surprisingly human-like properties

Vox Nihili posted:

You're wrong, any reasonably popular Dem would have stomped him into he ground.

UHD posted:

still curious how the slavery bit never made it to the news during the election considering that's the sort of thing that could end any politicians career

zegermans posted:

just gonna bronze this post for the next time loquacius says left wing buy-in to right wing smears is a myth

Condiv posted:

we got common ground. jesus p much preached socialism

UHD posted:

still curious how the slavery bit never made it to the news during the election considering that's the sort of thing that could end any politicians career

GalacticAcid posted:

hillary clinton owned slaves

UHD posted:

still curious how the slavery bit never made it to the news during the election considering that's the sort of thing that could end any politicians career

UHD posted:

still curious how the slavery bit never made it to the news during the election considering that's the sort of thing that could end any politicians career

loquacius posted:

there are still people on SA who will claim it was totally ok because it wasn't REALLY slavery and it's not like it was FIELD work and the state of Arkansas was doing this ANYWAY and she TOTALLY went "wtf" privately but went along with it reluctantly so as not to make waves and the prisoners were LUCKY to GET this work and also I bet you're white and rich

like, I don't even mean in D&D, I mean in C-SPAM

so I don't think it would have really changed anything

Nanomashoes posted:

she merely borrowed them

docbeard posted:

He was also all about offering free health care to people.

Condiv posted:

"it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" - some berniebro

GalacticAcid posted:

The Muppets On PCP posted:

it would've meant a normal, sane person actually had to sit and read one of hillary's books

Oh Snapple! posted:

really??

another white man????

UHD posted:

but someone did, only they waited for her to lose before reading it which implies that the only time anyone reads a politicians book is when they lose

brb running for senate and publishing a book

Condiv posted:

"it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" - some berniebro

quote:

On a trip to Moscow early in her tenure as secretary of state, Hillary Rodham Clinton played the role of international saleswoman, pressing Russian government officials to sign a multibillion-dollar deal to buy dozens of aircraft from Boeing.
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Clinton did not point out that, to secure the donation, the State Department had set aside ethics guidelines that first prohibited solicitations of Boeing and then later permitted only a $1 million gift from the company. Boeing had been included on a list of firms to be avoided because of its frequent reliance on the government for help negotiating overseas business and concern that a donation could be seen as an attempt to curry favor with U.S. officials.

The November 2009 episode was an indicator of a mutually beneficial relationship between one of the world’s major corporations and a potential future president. Clinton functioned as a powerful ally for Boeing’s business interests at home and abroad, while Boeing has invested resources in causes beneficial to Clinton’s public and political image.

Frijolero posted:

Washington Post 2014


lol c'mon

Frijolero posted:

It's not illegal or unethical if the right people in the State Department give you permission*


*Except for the email server, literally nobody thought that was a good idea or approved it lol

loquacius posted:

Ok I'll, bite, what is inherently right-wing about this attack?