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D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

ManofManyAliases posted:

Of course. How else will it traverse a moon with more surface area than all the maps of every other mmo combined?

I know you're kidding but...

1) We don't know the surface area of any of the three moons coming in 3.0. And until it's released, any numbers CIG gives, is bullshit

2) I can 100% guarantee that NONE of those moons is bigger than the surface area of ANY of the moons in Universal Combat. A game with roots going back to the nineties. pffft

Are you willing to toxx over this?

https://vimeo.com/147947830

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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Next time, use your mobiglas when making posts.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

G0RF posted:

Hello friends.

I truly hope everyone is doing well, physically, mentally, and in all other ways. Hope the same for the misguided backers and the overworked employees of CIG. Life's too short to spend it miserable, furious, or otherwise dispirited.

For those who wondered, I'm still alive. Had some health issues a year back. Took a break from a lot of things, including from posting in this often wonderful and informative thread. Glad to see its gentled up some from when I left.

Anyway, awkward member re-insertion banter aside, here is a new infographic about 3.0, for those of you who like those sort of things.



I'm aiming for fairness, so please post suggested corrections if it seems biased.

wb. Not much has changed.

1. Star Citizen is still hosed, and now belongs to a bank. Like for real.
2. Croberts is still an untalented rear end-clown with an expensive hair piece
3. Sandi went back to acting
4. Ortwin is still loving up royally (I made him come out on a Sunday to put out flames over a payday loan. He brought a tank of gas)
5. Shitizens are still in denial
6. Goons are still doing their best to completely destroy Star Citizen because CIG didn't make it like Eve, so we can grief Shitizens

And CIG has more source leaks than they have game patches.

BeigeJacket
Jul 21, 2005

D_Smart posted:

I know you're kidding but...

1) We don't know the surface area of any of the three moons coming in 3.0. And until it's released, any numbers CIG gives, is bullshit

2) I can 100% guarantee that NONE of those moons is bigger than the surface area of ANY of the moons in Universal Combat. A game with roots going back to the nineties. pffft

Are you willing to toxx over this?

https://vimeo.com/147947830

Derek, why were your games so stupidly complicated?

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

:allears:

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Hammerstein posted:

Hoho, German gaming mag Pcgames.de called Derek Smart a "gescheiterter Entwickler" - a failed developer.


http://www.pcgames.de/Star-Citizen-Spiel-3481/News/Derek-Smart-Gamestar-Titelstory-Propaganda-Twitter-1233287/

Countdown to lawsuit

...3

...2

...1

I am mostly ignoring those German rear end-clowns now. They're just helping me signal boost, so that's good.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!

Ramadu posted:

humanity learned to chill and just slow ride in the future

With only 24 humans left in the universe--you don't want anyone to get hurt in a traffic accident...

The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007

Is this the denial and bargaining phase?

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

BeigeJacket posted:

Derek, why were your games so stupidly complicated?

They are simulations made for grognards.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

He's happy playing at 15 fps in a $155M game. God loving LOL!!!

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Everyone knows the real hardcore play at fifteen eff pee ess.

D_Smart posted:

They are simulations made for grognards.

Idle question, but have you considered some form of open-sourcing or Steam Workshop?

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003

D_Smart posted:

I know you're kidding but...

1) We don't know the surface area of any of the three moons coming in 3.0. And until it's released, any numbers CIG gives, is bullshit

2) I can 100% guarantee that NONE of those moons is bigger than the surface area of ANY of the moons in Universal Combat. A game with roots going back to the nineties. pffft

Are you willing to toxx over this?
MoMA please don't toxx over this, I don't want Derek to post some boring half-hour long video of his stupid game to prove you wro-
gently caress.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

D_Smart posted:

6 years + $155M =

What happened to the 258 million number thrown around last week?

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard


Space Crabs
Mar 10, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

ManofManyAliases posted:

1975 motorcycles can do over 100 meters a second?

1930s plane technology and 1950s motorcycle technology was as fast or faster than Star Citizen ships. That was just world record territory though.

But we already have consumer grade technology that goes faster than Star Citizen ships.

Part of the reason is the jittery mess of a Crysis Mod they've spent six years tweaking values on bugs out so much that you have to slow all the objects down to keep distorted cronenburg horrors from being flung into a planet at lightspeed for tripping over a step. Slowing everything down slows down the force of collisons and is less likely to cause clipping errors because a ship traveling at a sensible speed for a 900+ year futuristic technology would probably cross the invisible line defining the landing pad and cause your arms and legs to stretch thirty billion miles in all directions for some reason.

Slow down the collisons, cut down on the hilarious bugs in the half assed mod you are making. It's why this poo poo has been obviously doomed. I know because I've modded games like that. When you either can't interact with or don't know how to modify the games actual coding you look for workarounds.

Modding a 2d space game: Want to tow asteroids and hurl them at people? Well that mechanic doesn't exist, but you can tow modules that mount weapons. So change the graphic to an asteroid, change the weapons to have 0 range and persist on their hardpoint while removing their graphic. Release the tow of the reskinned module at speed and you have a ballistic asteroid whenever the invisible weapons impact a surface. You can even make the asteroid break up on impact by having it's weapons do AoE damage and changing the module explosion animation with an asteroid explosion animation.

Anyone who has modded a game and done workarounds like that sees right through Crysis 3: A Star Citizen Mod. They shrunk the scale of everything down to increase the map size. They couldn't remove the water that exists in all Crysis maps so they just made it invisible, and then they couldn't remove the visor splash effect from your crysis suit when you cross the invisible boundary designating the surface, so they just left that in and moved all the objects down into the negative X axis to make everything underwater so you can "float" in zero G. The ships are reskinned Crysis Jeeps and buggies that have NOCLIP enabled, which is why all the ship combat is like two guys in DOOM 2 flying around firing at eachother with NOCLIP cheats enabled but the speed turned down, because again collisions cause your lovely mod to explode any you can't do anything to stop it but cut the speed and force of the collisions.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Lladre posted:

What happened to the 258 million number thrown around last week?

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

G0RF posted:

Hello friends.

I truly hope everyone is doing well, physically, mentally, and in all other ways. Hope the same for the misguided backers and the overworked employees of CIG. Life's too short to spend it miserable, furious, or otherwise dispirited.

For those who wondered, I'm still alive. Had some health issues a year back. Took a break from a lot of things, including from posting in this often wonderful and informative thread. Glad to see its gentled up some from when I left.

Anyway, awkward member re-insertion banter aside, here is a new infographic about 3.0, for those of you who like those sort of things.



I'm aiming for fairness, so please post suggested corrections if it seems biased.


*a wild GORF appears*

Thoatse fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jul 18, 2017

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Hav posted:

Idle question, but have you considered some form of open-sourcing or Steam Workshop?

No, why? I currently have UCCE 3.0 on Early Access because I am in the process of upgrading the graphics engine and assets due to their age (last time I did that was in 2009). Not planning on doing anything major there as I have neither the time nor the resources to embark on another complex game. Hence Line Of Defense (which is coming along slower than I'd like).

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
Welcome back Gorf.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Lladre posted:

What happened to the 258 million number thrown around last week?

Yeah, because the $155M shown on their website from backers, and which is said to be bullshit, is the only money ever gone into the project. GTFO.

Lladre
Jun 28, 2011


Soiled Meat

D_Smart posted:

Yeah, because the $155M shown on their website from backers, and which is said to be bullshit, is the only money ever gone into the project. GTFO.

So a person asks you why you are not using the higher number anymore and you respond with a lot of hostility.
I for one do not believe in anything CIG puts out there, I was under the impression that 258 was the new number.

ManofManyAliases
Mar 21, 2016
ToastOfManySmarts


Can't post for 3 hours!

D_Smart posted:

I know you're kidding but...

1) We don't know the surface area of any of the three moons coming in 3.0. And until it's released, any numbers CIG gives, is bullshit

2) I can 100% guarantee that NONE of those moons is bigger than the surface area of ANY of the moons in Universal Combat. A game with roots going back to the nineties. pffft

Are you willing to toxx over this?

https://vimeo.com/147947830

1) We don't know. Anything we have now is a speculative guess.

2) What's the surface area of a moon in UC?

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GK8pmNR464&t=18s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3N5S84f7g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3NwYT98A2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOynFGsM66o&t=16s

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development
11 months after Gamescom 2016 and lots of :shepspends: how are we doing...



:doh:


It's ok though, Alpha 3.1 will be the patch that'll show those dastardly naysayers.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
Welcome back G0RF. It's good to have you back, here at the end of all things.

Drunk Theory
Aug 20, 2016


Oven Wrangler

Thanks Redchris! It's unusual for someone offsite to defend G0RF's goon honor, but it's appreciated.
Everyone appears to love G0RF's typing after all.

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Space Crabs posted:

Anyone who has modded a game and done workarounds like that sees right through Crysis 3: A Star Citizen Mod. They shrunk the scale of everything down to increase the map size. They couldn't remove the water that exists in all Crysis maps so they just made it invisible, and then they couldn't remove the visor splash effect from your crysis suit when you cross the invisible boundary designating the surface, so they just left that in and moved all the objects down into the negative X axis to make everything underwater so you can "float" in zero G. The ships are reskinned Crysis Jeeps and buggies that have NOCLIP enabled, which is why all the ship combat is like two guys in DOOM 2 flying around firing at eachother with NOCLIP cheats enabled but the speed turned down, because again collisions cause your lovely mod to explode any you can't do anything to stop it but cut the speed and force of the collisions.

I don't pay that much attention to SC but is this all actually how it "works" (for lack of a better term)? Because if so then :lol:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

This is crazy. :monocle:

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

All your friends are me.

Roflan posted:

I didn't realize Warframe was so popular. Yet they have budgetary issues... They clearly need to learn the art of greed from Star Citizen and charge 300$ a frame.

What budgetary issues?

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016


You uh, don't catch colds from rain or nakedness or the cold or any combination of the three Dave. Go back to class and learn about airborne viruses ty. :)

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Just because a hong kong chicken farming conglomerate buys you out doesn't mean that you have budgetary issues.

shrach
Jan 10, 2004

daylight ssssaving time

G0RF posted:




(The above includes a second correction caused by carelessness... )

What is the planet looking shape labelled as "Crusader", such that it is shaded blue to represent already being in 2.6?

Roflan
Nov 25, 2007

Sandweed posted:

What budgetary issues?

I don't mean that it's in trouble, just that they could do so much more with more money. They clearly have ambition beyond their means.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

ManofManyAliases posted:

1975 motorcycles can do over 100 meters a second?

It first happened in 1962, so… yeah.

Beaten like the proverbial stepchild. Still, it was such a stupid thing to ask that it bears repeating.

Tippis fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jul 18, 2017

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

G0RF posted:

Hello friends.

I truly hope everyone is doing well, physically, mentally, and in all other ways. Hope the same for the misguided backers and the overworked employees of CIG. Life's too short to spend it miserable, furious, or otherwise dispirited.

For those who wondered, I'm still alive. Had some health issues a year back. Took a break from a lot of things, including from posting in this often wonderful and informative thread. Glad to see its gentled up some from when I left.

Anyway, awkward member re-insertion banter aside, here is a new infographic about 3.0, for those of you who like those sort of things.



I'm aiming for fairness, so please post suggested corrections if it seems biased.

Good to see you again!
SomethingJones has gone quiet, but Virtual Captain and Mirificus are keeping up with recording the remarkable details.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen


I'm pretty sure "Spleeny, fen-sucked skainsmate" is a blatant misuse of at least two of the three terms there. Doesn't skainsmate just mean friend? And fen-sucked means you came out of a swamp or something like that?

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/shake_rule.html

Oh.

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Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

trucutru posted:

CIG have partnered with AMD.
CIG have parnered with Intel.

CIG have parpered with a lot of companies and people.

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