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raminasi posted:I got ghosted after an onsite once I think a lot of those are when you're a "maybe" or a second pick and if they go another direction everyone immediately drops all thought of you forever
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raminasi posted:I got ghosted after an onsite once same then their recruiter contacted me again a year later lol
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I had a recruiter set me up with an interview with a local startup's CEO. He rescheduled on me once through the recruiter. For our second time, he texted me 15 minutes before the interview trying to reschedule again.
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 20:57 |
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worse to assign/do hw as a senior imho
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:00 |
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a recruiter set me up with an interview with pharma company with 3 names that apparently wants to pay me $80,000 a year to fix broken java, but it's something to do with machine learning? help
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:02 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:a recruiter set me up with an interview with pharma company with 3 names that apparently wants to pay me $80,000 a year to fix broken java, but it's something to do with machine learning? help ask for 150
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:23 |
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qirex posted:ask for 150 You were wrong when you said anything other than "move on"
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:31 |
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also it's a few blocks from my last job so I can flip off their building as i drive by
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:33 |
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Employers claiming they are paying market average when they are clearly not can only be one of two things: 1) oblivious/stubborn to the actual market , or 2) think employees/candidates are stupid as hell
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:34 |
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qhat posted:IMO that's super unprofessional and sounds like an outlier. My opinion is that the second the company speaks to you on the phone to say they're interested, they should have the courtesy to tell you when they're not interested and in good time. I remember one time I had an in-person interview scheduled with a company and they then canceled it saying their office was going to be having some renovation done the day it had been scheduled, and specifically told me they'd call me back next week to reschedule. This was after two phone interviews - one with someone in their HR department and then one with their local guy - that both went really well in my opinion. I called them back after the week had come and gone and the HR person I'd been talking to sounded really embarrassed when she told me they'd already interviewed and gone with someone else. I counted myself lucky at the time I hadn't gotten caught in that kind of shithole, although I wound up getting into a way crazier shithole a few months after that. oh well
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 21:50 |
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I once had a flight scheduled for an onsite then two days before the interview they told me they were shuttering the division.
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just looked up in my old emails, the company's name was Ethology. they've since been bought by Tallwave.
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leper khan posted:I once had a flight scheduled for an onsite then two days before the interview they told me they were shuttering the division. a few years back I was runner up for a position and within a year the whole team had been fired or reassigned good thing I didn't give up my fed job for 25k I would have gotten anyway
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# ? Jul 18, 2017 22:09 |
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I had an onsite scheduled and then the company's website went down. they cancelled on me to fix it (it was a devops position but lmao) i still went to the follow-up, only to get a better offer and turn them down, they still insisted on me calling them back after a month into my new job and turning them down again in case I didn't like the gig I took.
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qirex posted:ask for 150 from what i've figured out it's not actually doing machine learning, it's fixing their web app when it breaks. i assume the machine learning thing is their pos chatbot.
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qhat posted:Employers claiming they are paying market average when they are clearly not can only be one of two things: 1) oblivious/stubborn to the actual market , or 2) think employees/candidates are stupid as hell almost everyone is in bucket #1, but some employers fall into both buckets labor markets are inefficient
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:06 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:almost everyone is in bucket #1, but some employers fall into both buckets Ya, but if they aren't offering competitive wages because of #1 then they'll probably be hesitant to start because they would have to increase the wages of their current staff, who have probably had to deal with lovely pay rises for years.
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:15 |
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it's kind of funny when you actually have a super in demand market like those self-driving car people at google who got retention bonuses so huge they retired this only works if it's a brand new thing and you need it like now
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:20 |
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Got a call from a recruiter today, told him before the call "only if you have jobs that fit my resume". What do you know, he rung me and turns out he had nothing even remotely appropriate. Lol.
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:33 |
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The one upmanship about ghosting is going to end when someone shows up having been ghosted with an offer in hand That someone's going to show up, i know it to be true
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:33 |
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Having to explain your work experience to some recruiter on the phone seems like an utter waste of time. 95% of the time they have no idea what you're talking about. me: I wrote a unified interface to abstract away different database APIs so database access is standardised across the codebase idiot recruiter: oh, so like you wrote a website? gently caress you
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 00:41 |
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curufinor posted:The one upmanship about ghosting is going to end when someone shows up having been ghosted with an offer in hand I had a job at this company, showed up for the first day and had a great time then when I came back the next day the whole building was gone when I asked someone at the coffee shop across the street about it a crusty old man said "them? they ain't existed since ought-one, lot's been vacant ever since the ceo burned the building down during an all-hands"
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curufinor posted:The one upmanship about ghosting is going to end when someone shows up having been ghosted with an offer in hand happened to a friend of mine they came to a deal on salary at the in-person. recruiter told him he'd get a written offer on monday. they never picked up the phone again.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:happened to a friend of mine rofl what the gently caress
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curufinor posted:The one upmanship about ghosting is going to end when someone shows up having been ghosted with an offer in hand I got an offer, tried to negotiate, got no compromise, negotiated again, 10AM a few days later they say no to negotiation and no to the offer. 11AM I write a you guys suck email. 11:30am get a voicemail. Start listening, it's the hiring manager apologizing. Manage to get another voicemail while listening to that, with a better offer than I originally requested. I've been job searching for a year now and I'm like screw it and accept. Three months later I got laid off because they ran out of work for me to do. Good times.
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huhu posted:I got an offer, tried to negotiate, got no compromise, negotiated again, 10AM a few days later they say no to negotiation and no to the offer. 11AM I write a you guys suck email. 11:30am get a voicemail. Start listening, it's the hiring manager apologizing. Manage to get another voicemail while listening to that, with a better offer than I originally requested. I've been job searching for a year now and I'm like screw it and accept. Three months later I got laid off because they ran out of work for me to do. edit nvm america lol qhat fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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I had a lot of "we pay competitive salaries" and then when I told them a ballpark for total comp silence on the other end of the phone. it turns out that stock grants significantly bump up your total compensation and companies that don't give that or are pre-IPO are just not competitive in any way.
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Munkeymon posted:same same except 2 onsites
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i'm trying to decide how huge of a raise to ask for at the end of the year, what's ten years of .net (1 in fintech) in new york worth
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The Management posted:I had a lot of "we pay competitive salaries" and then when I told them a ballpark for total comp silence on the other end of the phone. like yeah I can overhaul your entire continuous integration environment and stick your lovely legacy app in the cloud but i'm not gonna do it for 100k, you want me to lead a project like that including budgeting and powerpoint updates and reporting to a svp please open your wallet Bhodi fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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product manager gigs are the same, can be anything from a specialist in the marketing team to running a department with a p&l etc. gotta try to get a salary range up front or a really good JD to see how they value the role. decent recruiters understand this, the rest look up "Product Manager" on glassdoor or whatever and thats their price anchor.
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:31 |
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curufinor posted:The one upmanship about ghosting is going to end when someone shows up having been ghosted with an offer in hand my company managed to hire someone who ghosted us on his first day. then a couple years later we hired the same guy again only for him to do the same exact thing. never did quite figure out how he managed to pull that one off, but I have to admit I'm a little impressed.
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Work: "Uh, gee, I dunno man... I mean, after last time—" Dr. Weird Voice: "THIS TIME SHALL BE DIFFERENT!"
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TerminalRaptor posted:my company managed to hire someone who ghosted us on his first day. then a couple years later we hired the same guy again only for him to do the same exact thing. that man is a hero
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:57 |
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at my company we made an offer to a guy and he asked for some more time to consider it. the ceo was like "no, i've seen this before, he's trying to use our offer to get a better one from another company. it's now or never" so the guy chose now and accepted our offer. after eating up 3 weeks of training time, he got a better offer from whatever other company it was, and peaced out with no notice. ceo sure was pissed lol!
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 02:57 |
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a friend said his company hired a guy who did the same thing after the first week. After a little digging they discovered this guy had been going to interviews, getting onboarded and then just not showing up (or taking an instant vacation if it was a block grant rather than hourly accrual). He apparently spent the last two years going from company to company like that and collecting paychecks from the termination lag, sometimes collecting multiple paychecks at once, until one company finally hunted him down and took him to court for fraud
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Bhodi posted:a friend said his company hired a guy who did the same thing after the first week. After a little digging they discovered this guy had been going to interviews, getting onboarded and then just not showing up (or taking an instant vacation if it was a block grant rather than hourly accrual). He apparently spent the last two years going from company to company like that and collecting paychecks from the termination lag, sometimes collecting multiple paychecks at once, until one company finally hunted him down and took him to court for fraud
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Bhodi posted:a friend said his company hired a guy who did the same thing after the first week. After a little digging they discovered this guy had been going to interviews, getting onboarded and then just not showing up (or taking an instant vacation if it was a block grant rather than hourly accrual). He apparently spent the last two years going from company to company like that and collecting paychecks from the termination lag, sometimes collecting multiple paychecks at once, until one company finally hunted him down and took him to court for fraud FMguru posted:a true american hero
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# ? Jul 19, 2017 03:09 |
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we had a guy on our org chart for years who was finishing some higher education and kept bumping back his start date, but there was no guarantee to get the req back if they told him off so vv
JawnV6 fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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A guy was hired along with me but ghosted on our start date. Turns out he was in jail on a DUI (which, here in Wisconsin, is quite an achievement).
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