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Frijolero posted:It's not illegal or unethical if the right people in the State Department give you permission* You'll find that state department IT in 2008 was a dumpster fire and Clinton's server was probably more secure than the poo poo they had back then, Mr. Cillizza
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zegermans posted:The Clinton foundation has saved the lives of thousands if not millions and the biggest pay for play scenario the right came up with was the Uranium One thing which was as transparently false as the Jane Sanders fraud investigation. You're a huge turd.
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Jul 18, 2017 22:06
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Hillary Clinton sucked and was moderate to conservative on poo poo from wars to drug policies to police to Israel and she also took advantage of slave labor. She didn't however use a secret email server to sell state assets to foreign powers while laundering money through her fake scam charity that totes does nothing.
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Jul 18, 2017 22:07
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UHD posted:still curious how the slavery bit never made it to the news during the election considering that's the sort of thing that could end any politicians career sure didn't sink Bill Clinton or Mike Huckabee
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Jul 18, 2017 22:09
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got any sevens posted:since she was the boss of the state dept, was she the one who sidelined the rule she was about to break? I guess so, I hadn't even thought about the worse implication of her sitting down to write an official memo where she gives herself permission to do dirty rear end poo poo lol The lady was a fantastic corporate lobbyist, but that wasn't her loving job...
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'there was no smoking gun of proof that she did anything wrong!' as if that matters lol. sorry but she ran for president, she should not have had a sprawling charity that accepted donations from shitheads clearly trying to curry favor while she was secretary of state. it was profoundly stupid.
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Frijolero posted:I guess so, I hadn't even thought about the worse implication of her sitting down to write an official memo where she gives herself permission to do dirty rear end poo poo lol the primary function of the US government is to line big businesses' pockets
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Jul 18, 2017 22:11
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GalacticAcid posted:'there was no smoking gun of proof that she did anything wrong!' dunno I'd rather Saudi Arabia didn't have that money and it was used to keep kids in Africa from dying of HIV but I agree it's bad optics and not a good look
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Jul 18, 2017 22:13
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You know what would be a good look, accepting responsibility for your fuckups
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lol it actually helped more kids die of hiv since it helped a republican get elected and foreign aid will get cut (if it didn't already)
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zegermans posted:Hillary Clinton sucked and was moderate to conservative on poo poo from wars to drug policies to police to Israel and she also took advantage of slave labor. Your Abuela fetish is fine and all, but it's clouding your judgement. It doesn't have to be a massive conspiracy. The mere fact that she set her own private email server with nobody's permission is stupid as gently caress and rightly made people wary of her. (Oh and then she lied about it a bunch of times and dug herself a loving hole everywhere she went)
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Jul 18, 2017 22:15
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look at this guy who cares about the optics of the actions that a presidential candidate takes
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Jul 18, 2017 22:19
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zegermans posted:dunno I'd rather Saudi Arabia didn't have that money and it was used to keep kids in Africa from dying of HIV ahh yes the classic "but they are stealing money from the people donating it" like that's the purpose of those donations and not a pre-emptive quid pro quo this was my favorite obama speech take, glad to see it make a comeback
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NewForumSoftware posted:ahh yes the classic "but they are stealing money from the people donating it" like that's the purpose of those donations and not a pre-emptive quid pro quo I guess I don't see how donating to a regularly audited charity is as quid
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zegermans posted:I guess I don't see how donating to a regularly audited charity is as quid it doesn't surprise me that a bad dem (or at least bad dem apologist) doesn't understand how politics works here's a Q for you, why do you think Saudi Arabia donates money to the Clinton Foundation?
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zegermans posted:I guess I don't see how donating to a regularly audited charity is as quid no, you see, clearly the US wouldn't have done anything beneficial to longtime ally Saudi Arabia if not for a few million dollars donated to a charity
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Jul 18, 2017 22:25
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well the good news is she has a lot of free time now to solicit donations and save more kids 
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Jul 18, 2017 22:27
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zegermans posted:I guess I don't see how donating to a regularly audited charity is as quid Same WaPo article: In 2010, two months after Boeing won its $3.7 billion Russia deal*, the company announced a $900,000 contribution to the William J. Clinton Foundation intended to rebuild schools in earthquake-ravaged Haiti. The foundation, which Hillary Clinton now helps lead with her husband and daughter, has become a popular charity for major corporations. * TWO MONTHS after HRC acted as saleswoman, and early in her tenure as Sec.State lol
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Main Paineframe posted:no, you see, clearly the US wouldn't have done anything beneficial to longtime ally Saudi Arabia if not for a few million dollars donated to a charity "few million dollars" might want to fact check your source there tiger
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Jul 18, 2017 22:31
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GalacticAcid posted:well the good news is http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/16/clinton-global-initiative-lays-off-22-as-donations/ but for some reasons donations are drying up? I don't understand. Shouldn't long time civil rights supporter Saudi Arabia donate regularly to such a respected organization?
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Jul 18, 2017 22:32
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i approve of this and hope he keeps it up https://twitter.com/MrDanZak/status/887362410813808640
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Jul 18, 2017 22:33
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/16/clinton-global-initiative-lays-off-22-as-donations/ b-b-b-b-ut it's regularly audited!!
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Condiv posted:i approve of this and hope he keeps it up i'm sad the train was late
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Jul 18, 2017 22:39
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i only click observer.com links sorry
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zegermans posted:The Clinton foundation has saved the lives of thousands if not millions and the biggest pay for play scenario the right came up with was the Uranium One thing which was as transparently false as the Jane Sanders fraud investigation. this does not answer my question
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Jul 18, 2017 22:45
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Condiv posted:"it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" - some berniebro That guy again? I hope someone nails him to a tree for that quote
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https://twitter.com/mekosoff/status/887427644521840641 Happy Birthday!
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Jul 18, 2017 22:48
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docbeard posted:They do not want to dismantle the ACA, they want to give it a fresh paint job and some chrome wheels. in other words, a more punitive fine for going w/out insurance and hundreds of billions of dollars more for private insurers.
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Jul 18, 2017 22:57
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Willa Rogers posted:in other words, a more punitive fine for going w/out insurance and hundreds of billions of dollars more for private insurers. But with fresh paint and chrome wheels.
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Jul 18, 2017 22:58
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Condiv posted:"if we become more conservative they'll have to cooperate with us!" I don't think it's idiocy as much as cover for their butts. as long as there are blue dogs, bad dems have their excuse as to why they govern so similarly to the gop.
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Willa Rogers posted:I don't think it's idiocy as much as cover for their butts. Having fall guys has diminishing returns. The gop blamed the Dems then the rinos and now everyone is a rino and the loonies have their own caucus. Making blue dogs the problems promotes the idea that the problem is coming from within the party
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logikv9 posted:i only click observer.com links sorry I got you fam http://observer.com/2016/11/foreign-donors-begin-pulling-out-from-clinton-foundation/amp/ also lol at the disclosure.
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The Nastier Nate posted:"independent" voters are typically informed partisans who for some reason or other don't want to identify R or D. that may have been true five or six years ago, but a growing number of indy voters are young'uns disgusted by either party. SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Having fall guys has diminishing returns. The gop blamed the Dems then the rinos and now everyone is a rino and the loonies have their own caucus. Making blue dogs the problems promotes the idea that the problem is coming from within the party http://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/
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zegermans posted:She didn't however use a secret email server to sell state assets to foreign powers while laundering money through her fake scam charity that totes does nothing. Yeah she probably used her normal account
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GalacticAcid posted:'there was no smoking gun of proof that she did anything wrong!' lol @ anyone like zegs who would defend the clinton foundation's work in haiti https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0506_story.html For instance, the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund invested more than $2 million in the Royal Oasis hotel, where a sleek suite with hardwood floors costs more than $200 a night and the shops sell $150 designer purses and $120 men’s dress shirts. One recent afternoon, the hotel appeared largely empty, and with tourism hardly booming five years after the quake, locals fear it may be failing. A spokeswoman for Occidental Hotels, the chain that runs the hotel, said that occupancy is up this year and that the project will “mature in the long run.” Bill Clinton also introduced Marriott officials to Denis O’Brien, an Irish telecom billionaire who has contributed millions to the Clinton Foundation. The result is a $45 million Marriott hotel that opened this month in central Port-au-Prince. O’Brien said no Clinton money was invested in the project. The ultra-modern hotel is adjacent to the headquarters of Digicel, a communications giant owned by O’Brien. When The Post visited recently, many, if not most, guests seemed to be foreign businessmen connected to Digicel. *** Other Clinton-backed projects have not delivered on lofty promises: A 2011 housing expo that cost more than $2 million, including $500,000 from the Clinton Foundation, was supposed to be a model for thousands of new units but instead has resulted in little more than a few dozen abandoned model homes occupied by squatters. Controversy surrounding the Clintons only deepened with the recent revelation, contained in an upcoming book by Peter Schweizer, that Tony Rodham — Hillary Clinton’s younger brother — serves on the advisory board of a U.S.-based company that in 2012 won one of Haiti’s first two gold-mining permits in 50 years. After objection from the Haitian Senate, the permits have been placed on hold. “Neither Bill Clinton nor the brother of Hillary Clinton are individuals who share the interests of the Haitian people,” said Samuel Nesner, an anti-mining activist who thinks mining poses great environmental risks and will mainly benefit foreign investors. “They are part of the elite class who are operating to exploit the Haitian people.”
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GalacticAcid posted:well the good news is didnt they shut the charity down after she lost? proving that it was just a bribe machine
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got any sevens posted:didnt they shut the charity down after she lost? proving that it was just a bribe machine technically the part that shut down was just the global initiative. the rest of the
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UHD posted:hill bad
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