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Rirse posted:but I already bought a used one for cheap so it too late now. your entire history in these threads is bad purchasing decisions/remorse/damage due to impulse buying/modding/etc before asking questions and learning about what you are doing. perhaps you should think about what the universe is telling you
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Nevermind, the order got cancelled so I don't have to worry about any of that poo poo now. Still probably like to get a PC Engine through, as I always wanted one.
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Japanese PC Engine controllers are compatible with the TG16, right? Controllers are likely cheaper from Japan if you get PC Engine, they were when I got PCE stuff but that was years ago when Rakuten was still a thing. Also bear in mind that all TG16/PCE consoles only have a single controller port, and you have to get a multi-tap to have more than 1 controller.
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univbee posted:Japanese PC Engine controllers are compatible with the TG16, right? Controllers are likely cheaper from Japan if you get PC Engine, they were when I got PCE stuff but that was years ago when Rakuten was still a thing. Also bear in mind that all TG16/PCE consoles only have a single controller port, and you have to get a multi-tap to have more than 1 controller. You'll need an adapter. The TG16's controller port is huge compared to the PC Engine. 
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8-bit Miniboss posted:You'll need an adapter. The TG16's controller port is huge compared to the PC Engine. Son of a bitch, I had a feeling there was something like that.
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univbee posted:Son of a bitch, I had a feeling there was something like that. Could always build your own cable. Just going from DIN to Mini DIN. Just need the pinouts which are widely documented.
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Rirse posted:Nevermind, the order got cancelled so I don't have to worry about any of that poo poo now. Still probably like to get a PC Engine through, as I always wanted one. Ask SA's own Monitor Burn for a nice, refurbished Duo or a Duo-R. You won't regret it. I've been really happy with the Duo, the games are very different to ones you'd find on NES, SNES or Megadrive, they have their own distinctive "feel" and sound. Love me some Lords of Thunder. As for controller, I recently got the Hori fighting commander and I heartily endorse it. Goes with the color scheme of my Duo as well. 
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reminder that you can get DIN extension cables on mouser because PCE/TG16 cables are hella short. personally I use a mini DIN. I think this is the one I use http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Tripp-Lite/P222-010/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsG1k5vdNM%2fc%2fK3vQU4tbnO
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Brings stack of one and two dollar N64 sports games up to counter: "It's not what it looks like! I just need the backs of the cases!" (On an unrelated note; anyone want copies of Madden 64 and NFL Quarterback Club that only fit in Japanese N64's?)
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I just pulled the trigger on a Framemeister and the one thing I'm still a little unsure about is if I need anything special to power it in the US. I see that it uses the same plug type (A) but the voltage is different. Can I just plug it directly into the wall?
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pocket pool posted:I just pulled the trigger on a Framemeister and the one thing I'm still a little unsure about is if I need anything special to power it in the US.
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pocket pool posted:I just pulled the trigger on a Framemeister and the one thing I'm still a little unsure about is if I need anything special to power it in the US. Yeah, it's fine. The US puts out slightly higher voltage than Japan but almost invariably electronics, even if they're not designed for international use, will work fine in the US (not in Europe or other 200+V territories). For non-videogame stuff that's more analog/mechanical in nature, it may run slightly more powerfully (e.g. something with a motor can spin faster, that sort of thing) but, again, generally this isn't an issue anyway.
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In non bad purchasing idea news, I got the Gameboy I found at a yard sale out to try with the GB Everdrive I got for my GB Player. Good news it still works, bad news it has horizontal lines, which I heard are near impossible to get rid of.   Especially bad on the Castlevania game in the picture, as I can't see anything on the ground level.
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So, is Star Fox 64 significantly easier in the Japanese version than the US one? I didn't find the US game to be challenging to just play through, but there were definitely bits that gave me a hard time. I just played through the Japanese version and shot right through it. I wound up going kind of up the middle so I wasn't just playing the easy stages. I know there's a lot more content in the game than just playing through the stages straight, I just remember it being trickier than this which is making me wonder about version differences. On to Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault. 
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Random Stranger posted:On to Star Fox Adventures and Star Fox Assault. It's all downhill from there!
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https://twitter.com/krikzz/status/887327185836683266 August.
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8-bit Miniboss posted:August. Looks pretty clean. I wonder what improvements it has over previous ones? Incidentally, I think next Everdrive I buy will be the GB one, although I will have to get a Super Game Boy (2) next. (I don't have a Gamecube so no GB player for me) Maybe this year's Black friday...?
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TeaJay posted:Looks pretty clean. I wonder what improvements it has over previous ones? Krikzz posted:Features list:
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Console5 has 6' controller extensions for the PC-Engine for $2.50 each: https://console5.com/store/atari-sega-commodore-6-3-6m-joystick-extension-cable-cord-by-retro-bit-1.html
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http://www.avclub.com/article/atari-really-making-new-game-console-and-yes-its-w-258177 oh what the christ
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Allen Wren posted:http://www.avclub.com/article/atari-really-making-new-game-console-and-yes-its-w-258177 The comments are the best part of that article 
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Lower power consumption and a soft reset are enough to get me to double dip for the X7, I think.
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Rirse posted:In non bad purchasing idea news, I got the Gameboy I found at a yard sale out to try with the GB Everdrive I got for my GB Player. Good news it still works, bad news it has horizontal lines, which I heard are near impossible to get rid of. So replace the screen with a proper backlit screen with a bivert mod. And then you don't have to feel bad about hacking apart a still-working original DMG!
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Allen Wren posted:http://www.avclub.com/article/atari-really-making-new-game-console-and-yes-its-w-258177 Yeah, I think "oh what the christ" is pretty much everyone's response. This feels more like a new Ouya or that weird retroconsole kickstarter scam than an actual platform. It's telling that among the general nerd community, the Atari consoles don't even "count" most of the time. They could have just announced themselves as a new console with a new brand and it would be exactly as effective.
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Anyone else waiting on their OSSC with HDMI Audio upgrade? I paid out so long ago now and I guess their installation workshop is really backed up or something. Pretty frustrating but I'm hoping the payoff is good enough to warrant the wait. Should have just gone framemeister.
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I'll be honest, I like the look of the 2017600, but I am a sucker for fake wood paneling and tasteful LED lighting. I see literally no reason why I or anyone else might ever buy one, though.
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Allen Wren posted:I'll be honest, I like the look of the 2017600, but I am a sucker for fake wood paneling and tasteful LED lighting. I see literally no reason why I or anyone else might ever buy one, though. Honestly, if it is pretty much a Steambox/Alienware Alpha with wood paneling and that sleek look... I'd consider one. Especially if it had a swappable GPU or atleast some external interface for an external GPU when the internal goes out of date like the Alienware Alpha R2 had. However, it probably is just a fancy Ouya or the like that is able to play modern *cough*mobile*cough* games.
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Allen Wren posted:I'll be honest, I like the look of the 2017600, but I am a sucker for fake wood paneling and tasteful LED lighting. I see literally no reason why I or anyone else might ever buy one, though. If it turns out to be a neat little Atari emulator with It quotes authentic controllers I might think about it
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Random Stranger posted:It's telling that among the general nerd community, the Atari consoles don't even "count" most of the time. This is an interesting line that I want to poke at a bit more, though. At this point, the NES is the only console of the 80s that still counts, so to speak, and only that because it was so revolutionary. I'd even argue that the SNES and Genesis are about to start not counting anymore. It's a sort of accelerated version of the concept of Sasha and Zamani, where the people for whom the earlier consoles were formative depart (or are ejected from) gaming fandom in that it is specifically youth- and current-generation focused. Like you go on some kind of modern gaming stream (I don't do streaming apart from GDQ stuff and saltybet, so I may be misguided) and the cultural touchstones are more than likely not going to be 16-bit era or earlier. to borrow from the title of an essay I once read, the golden age of gaming is 12. in short, we're old, or something. I'm not good at essays on topics outside of my record collection.
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Yeah, 12 is generally the "last" year of pure childhood with enormous amounts of free time, before some of the harsher expectations of middle/high school and things like puberty hit. So people very commonly latch onto popular things they enjoyed when they were around that age in hopes that they'll be able to somehow use that to return to those carefree days. univbee fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Allen Wren posted:This is an interesting line that I want to poke at a bit more, though. At this point, the NES is the only console of the 80s that still counts, so to speak, and only that because it was so revolutionary. I'd even argue that the SNES and Genesis are about to start not counting anymore. It's a sort of accelerated version of the concept of Sasha and Zamani, where the people for whom the earlier consoles were formative depart (or are ejected from) gaming fandom in that it is specifically youth- and current-generation focused. I'm not sure. 16-bit... the thing is the industry moved to 3D after that and there was a really janky awkward growing period with 3D. Then things got better and better and... 2D mostly fell off to handheld games. I think SNES games are kinda timeless in the way that they're not the same as 3D games and their graphics are mostly very stylized and still appealing to today. They're not nearly as limited on palette or frames as the 8-bit era was... I dunno I just don't see that stuff "not counting" and less than it does now.
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Not to dismiss your point (especially since I think it's just fine), I was referring mainly to the mindshare the console occupy. I joke about it, but there are plenty of people who think that video gaming essentially started when the NES launched in the US. And if it's not a Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, or Sony console then it's a minor footnote that's only worth mentioning in youtube videos with titles like "10 Super Obscure Video Game Consoles You Never Heard Of!" (number 3 is the Intellivision). And that's not inherently a bad thing or a thing to be snobbish over; I'm the last person to say how people should approach their hobbies. But when you're releasing a new console and hoping to cash in on the Atari name, the fact that even nerds don't give a drat about the Atari name is a concern. My money is that we're going to be putting another tick on the "failed companies using the Atari brand" board. I think we're up to five at this point, maybe six depending on how you want to cut things.
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If that Atari box is anything more than an android SOC I will poo poo.
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Random Stranger posted:Not to dismiss your point (especially since I think it's just fine), I was referring mainly to the mindshare the console occupy. I joke about it, but there are plenty of people who think that video gaming essentially started when the NES launched in the US. And if it's not a Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, or Sony console then it's a minor footnote that's only worth mentioning in youtube videos with titles like "10 Super Obscure Video Game Consoles You Never Heard Of!" (number 3 is the Intellivision). I can see that, kind of like how when many people think of "the internet", it is the post dot-com era. Many people don't think of pre-2000's when they think of "the internet". Like many gamers don't think of pre-1985 when it comes to gaming. You ask them what the first gen is, and they would say NES era (most in the US wouldn't even say the SMS). Gaming's 1983 crash is to the Internet's 2001 bubble burst or whenever it was, and the aftermath defined what it is today. Is Alta Vista the 2600 of search engines? Or Yahoo? Well, didn't Yahoo use AltaVista? So is Yahoo the Sears Telegames? FireMrshlBill fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Random Stranger posted:Not to dismiss your point (especially since I think it's just fine), I was referring mainly to the mindshare the console occupy. I joke about it, but there are plenty of people who think that video gaming essentially started when the NES launched in the US. And if it's not a Nintendo, Sega, Microsoft, or Sony console then it's a minor footnote that's only worth mentioning in youtube videos with titles like "10 Super Obscure Video Game Consoles You Never Heard Of!" (number 3 is the Intellivision). Right, yeah, that's what I'm getting at, mindshare. I just think that as time moves, more early-generation hardware is going to fall off into the void. And, yeah, there is no money in the Atari name.
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FireMrshlBill posted:I can see that, kind of like how when many people think of "the internet", it is the post dot-com era. Many people don't think of pre-2000's when they think of "the internet". Like many gamers don't think of pre-1985 when it comes to gaming. You ask them what the first gen is, and they would say NES era (most in the US wouldn't even say the SMS). Ooooh the Ngage is Infoseek.
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FireMrshlBill posted:Is Alta Vista the 2600 of search engines? Or Yahoo? Well, didn't Yahoo use AltaVista? So is Yahoo the Sears Telegames? The first major search engine to really penetrate public consciousness? Yeah, the 2600 is the Alta Vista of consoles. Yahoo wasn't even a search engine at the time, so it's more like a Mattel electronic handheld game in this metaphor.
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Martytoof posted:Anyone else waiting on their OSSC with HDMI Audio upgrade? I paid out so long ago now and I guess their installation workshop is really backed up or something. Pretty frustrating but I'm hoping the payoff is good enough to warrant the wait. I just received an audio board for mine. Seems like the installation should be easy enough. Pretty stoked to have another mini project this week.
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Random Stranger posted:The first major search engine to really penetrate public consciousness? Yeah, the 2600 is the Alta Vista of consoles. Yahoo wasn't even a search engine at the time, so it's more like a Mattel electronic handheld game in this metaphor. Ah, thats right, its been so long. Yahoo was more of a homepage with directories to other pages, plus chat and whatnot, I guess it didn't get search until later. I remember the 2 times a year we would use the computer lab in school back in the 90's, it was the obligatory connect to the internet > double click on Netscape > go to Webcrawler or Alta Vista > search for whatever person or historical event about which you were supposed to write an essay, and now you know how to use the internet! So was Web Crawler the Odyssey? FireMrshlBill fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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Oddessy was AOL Keyword: search
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