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Dingleberry posted:Can we all get a recap? '07 Deployment Nimitz (the one right after the "Carrier" show), actually. I misremembered. It was right at the end of the Malabar bullshit with the Indian Navy. They did the same in the '05 one. Anyway, we had left in April, like right after April Fool's, and it was July and this was our second scheduled port call (we'd get a beer day on that deployment for going over 60 days without port, and that wouldn't even be the first one). Ted Branch had just left (and would go to gently caress up the IC as an Admiral, where I would cross-rate into and meet again, later), and Captain Mike "Nasty" Manazir was the new CO. We did this exercise called Valient Shield with the lovely Kitty and the Stennis(? I think), where the Navy wanted to try out to see if 3 carrier strike groups could even work together or if it would just be a master class clusterfuck. All we got out of it was a photo op that people tell me they think is photoshopped. The navy's pretty good at photo ops and putting a bunch of ships on a straight line, including 3 CSGs. I know I'm making it up, but I feel like the Kitty Hawk always has pieces falling off of her when she was moving. Mostly rusted paint. Anyway, the port call was historic in the sense that a carrier had never visited India. No one knew what to expect. Some serious "Temple of Doom" vibes, y'know? I wanted to visit the Theosophy Gardens, but all I knew of India were Dhalsim's stages in Street Fighter, so whatever. I got big into Theosophy in high school. A bunch of Indian leftist activists were ready to protest a nuclear ship because of "cannot confirm or deny the presence of nuclear weapons on board the US Navy ship, though it is not the policy of blah blah blah..." (why do I still have that memorized 10 years later?) Anyway, that's nothing really out of scope of the normal poo poo in Japan. It's enough that they have no actual military port in Chennai, which is off the Southeastern Coast of India, near Sri Lanka and is not the Fun Jungley India, nor is it the Fun Mountain Punjabi India. They did have an industrial one, probably built by the British to take tea leaves to Europe 300 years ago. It isn't good for a carrier, so the Pickney takes the pierside brow. Gotta put the carrier somewhere, I guess, so they anchor us out. No big deal, happens in Singapore all the time. So the carrier moves out a couple miles out into the brownwater at 2 July 2017. People are antsy. Hotels were cleared out a long time ago in presales, and the tickets were few so almost all of them went to the nobles. Standard thing where it's Captain First after we lower the anchor and everyone secures for watches. The Port Call schedule the entire time I was on that ship was that it would be 4 days and leaving on the fifth. The airwing would have 1 duty day where a section would stay on the ship and perform watchstanding, like hangar and flight deck security/firewatches, and then our squadron would make us stay a *second day* for stand-by duty because their personnel standing watches means no one was actually doing maintenance. So the airwing would lose half the port call every single time. This had an added psychological effect of making airdales go fuckin' hard to drink their sorrows away both days while most of the ship's company enjoyed the four days off (and for sure the officers enjoyed them regardless of station and would be off-the-ship the entire time in their fuckhole hotels while they used codewords to violate OPSEC and fly their wives ahead of schedule to meet them before the ship ever got there and no one seemed bothered by this). This makes people antsy, and the fact that we had ferries loading upwards of 100+ people going back and forth would still take over 30+ trips and just barely get half the ship. So here's what no one knew: the Indian Ocean in the summer is goddamned Monsoon season. This makes the waves, even those just off the coast, really rough and vicious. These fuckin' dhows the natives were bringing out were not meant to ride monsoon waves. Within 2 hours of general liberty call the whole thing is cancelled. A line from the fantail all the way back along the hangar has to go back to their rooms and jerk off. It's reported one of the boats fuckin' sank. It fuckin' *sank* in the water because it kept taking more in and the thing broke. A YNSN gets a NAM for taking muster of the 100+ people in the ferry as they transitioned to a rescue ferry and manages to get most of the luggage cross-decked. Then they're returned. Everyone on the ship now stays on the ship because people with hotels were prioritized. No one comes back. July 3rd. Attempt #2 gets a lot of people off the ship. This was the best opportunity to get anyone not in a hotel off the ship to actually visit India. Once in a lifetime opportunity; 'git you some spirituality. Hundreds of people make it to the otherside before high tide rolls in and sinks two more ships. Liberty is secured again. Now, there's a problem. There's a lot of people in India; more than have hotels. The water is too tough and the natives decide to stop ferrying. They won't even come back at low-tide. The watchstanders/shore patrol are already there, and not even they can come back for watchstanding relief, meaning they have to stay on watch. The call is this: Hotels are packed, and as soon as the people come back to the industrial pier, they can't leave and have to stay. No one can leave the pier. They have to stay and wait until the morning to get back to the ship. The Pinckney does their best and opens up whatever space they can for berthings, including their gym spaces and deck/nonskid and any spare racks. There's like 500 people stranded though. There's nowhere to sleep. People did their best and "found a good rock." Bodies were piled everywhere on this disgusting industrial pier that smelled of waste and had bugs and dragonflies the size of goddamned baseballs. The market was filled with people on the 'sandbox' (to use a UAE-ism) in those plastic picnic chairs just bowled over themselves, passed out on a table. People were sleeping in the industrial trailers around the entire facility. Watches just patrolled the area. But gently caress sleeping on that poo poo. When the Day of American Independence occurred, the Captain's Gig was the only boat left. 4th of July, and the next Watch comes along and we have to use the goddamned Captain's Gig to get people back. I was a part of that patrol. Everyone who was on that duty section was impressed to rescue everyone in India. Reconnoiters occurred at the Chennai Police Stations so buses were dropping people off at this Cricket Field and then given ham sandwiches and water and then sent to the pier to get on the Captain's GIg and sent back until another set of Dhows could be repaired to continue it. Again, no one is let off the ship who wasn't on the rescue team. I saw some of the faces of those people coming from the pier. Didn't realize you could completely lose all respect for the Navy in one night, but there you go. All it takes is for Big Daddy Navy to just completely abandon you on a pier. I saw a dude who was Petty Officer of the Quarter AZ2(AW) have his spirit completely crushed and just go straight to "gently caress it" mode after that night and prepare his DD214 paperwork. People were dirty, greasy, muddy, and *still* hungover. It would be 6-7 weeks until the next port call, but no one knew that.            Those were the people *outside* of the tent.         So everyone gets back. July 5th we're leaving. Here's where it gets good. No one realizes that the Nimitz was parked out in the place where a water filtration plant was. I dunno if you go to GBS and visit the India thread there, but take it from me and when I actually went through Chennai looking for people: that place is a fuckin' poverty pit. Billboards of beautiful lightskinned bollywood actors and actresses in the place, shadowing these absolute hovels of abject poverty, shoeless people walking around underneath high tensile electrical wire in U-shaped slums with all manners of university mills and people making GBS threads on the street because no one has indoor plumbing and I guess that's just a fuckin' thing you do in India because it'll get washed out to the Ocean (where our ship was parked). Everyone is in those small economy cars or mopeds. There aren't any fuckin' lanes on the street and it's like 5 lanes of people and in India it works via echo-fuckin-location because everyone is constantly honking their horns -- not out of aggression, just to let everyone around you know you're there so some bus doesn't run over your moped that's carrying you, your wife, your two kids, your pet dog, and a goat with your week's work of groceries stacked on it like the Road Trip episode of fuckin' Pete & Pete. There's shrines on the sidewalk everywhere to Hindu Gods and they're beautiful. There's murals on sports stadiums and it's awe inspiring. The people are absolutely riddled with disease and have nothing but robes and curry; these are the unwashed masses that Burke liked to write about. They're absolutely humbled by our visit and I was given a gift by one about achieving Dharma that I still treasure. Their lack of infrastructure is epitomized by the apartment complexes falling into ruin, but Chennai is so dense with people it's hard to even criticize. The dichotomy was so far away in the extremes in terms of class that it's enough to make you a tankie. Anyway, the ship has been pulling up the "blackwater" as he calls it for the entire week to go into the potable systems and ensure the goddamned reactor doesn't melt down. Reverse Osmosis does a lot of things, but it don't get rid of all the viruses that can survive in the air. Now, there's always the expectation of traveling far away exposes you to microbials the native population has grown resistant to; that's natural selection. Things like smallpox and syphilis are the grandest of exchanges, but to smaller degree is Montezuma's Revenge in Central America and "Delhi Belly" as its called in India. What we got wasn't fuckin' Dehli Belly. Everyone drinking and using the water (which was everyone because it's a ship with a scullery and a shower and water fountains) contracts gastro-enteritis from drinking Indian Shitwater for a week. The entire crew comes down with it. It's the Double Dragons. There's absolutely sickness firing at both ends. Simultaneous vomiting and diarrhea in projectile forms (thankfully my berthings head had two rows of stalls so I could sit between them and fire at both ends while on all fours). Everything gets fuckin' secured. The galleys no longer use trays and utensils. The CS's and FSAs grab the fuckin' styrofoam trays and plastic sporks and behind the glass, in some fuckin' biohazard suit, they plot the food for you and hand it to you at the end of the line. All four lines, plus ward rooms, plus chief's mess go like this for two weeks. Cleaning stations double, and then the times double. twice, two hours a day, at shift change, are cleaning stations. Every workcenter has to go to Corrosion Control to get this sort of red/orange kool-aid biohazard spray and wipe down everything with it every single time. It's like this for two weeks. Medical puts out a notice that there's no fuckin' cure for G-E. It's a virus. Just don't die from dehydration. Everyone has to let the virus work its natural path of liquefying everything in your gastrointestinal tract and firing it out of the nearest hole and once it's over we'll be okay. It passes. People drink more water and jerk off more and we keep heading west to the gulf to do the actual war poo poo. After a beer day, we pull into the UAE. That was alright. Hong Kong/Singapore on the way back. Tiger Cruise in the last week.
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Happy I was an East Coast Sailor.
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LingcodKilla posted:This needs to be posted like every month. It should be eternal like the Marine thread OP, it is a thing of beauty. If nothing else it will immediately dissuade any potential future sailors. orange juche fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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For gently caress's sake my orders got pushed out to NOSC San Diego to approve for me to work at my NOSC Kitsap. I'm bothering my unit approvers and they are like you need to push out the orders dude what the hell and I just noticed were they routed too... wtf
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That was a good story and all but the main thing I took from it is that you got more foreign port calls in one deployment than I've had in 15 years.
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I was in CVW-2 when we got our deployment obliterated by sequestration in 2013. The furthest I've ever gotten is Hawaii, where we had a 10 day port call prior to RIMPAC. I've literally never set foot on foreign soil since I joined the Navy. For half of RIMPAC I was back on shore working at the CAOC. Staying in a luxury hotel in downtown Honolulu. It's a little awkward these days when someone starts a conversation with "you know how when you're in 5th fleet..." and I have to stop them to say "no, I don't". But overall, it was a pretty loving awesome gig. I highly recommend getting sequestered prior to any real deployment.
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Vriess definitely wins the battle of worst India visit. I guess maybe we did learn a few things from that experience. I know they treated the water onboard and to my knowledge the cases of GE are limited to those who did dumb things like drink water in town. We only had one night where Sailors were forced to sleep on the pier. The real kick in the balls was when we dropped anchor on day 1 and then realized we didn't have a single service ready (thanks India!) whereupon we weighed anchor and drove further out to get away from the shitwater. His description of the place is highly accurate though. The first night I went out I saw a dude sleeping naked on the sidewalk. The only place I've seen that had more out and out poverty was Djibouti. The Indian officers I met all pretty much told me in their polite Indian way that they thought Chennai sucked as well.
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Dear lord, once again I am reminded of just how thankful I am for the existence of VP navy these last 16 years.
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Everyone ready for the don't get in to a car wreck and shoot your spouse and get shot dead by the cops safety stand down?
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Yeah the best part of that Chennai visit that nobody told you was that the aircrew secretly got a stash of super anti diarrhea meds and Cipro to safely fly. So not everybody was making GBS threads themselves. (No kidding it happened in late night meetings in the wardroom.)
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maffew buildings posted:Everyone ready for the don't get in to a car wreck and shoot your spouse and get shot dead by the cops safety stand down? Seabees are loving awesome. Wish I could do a AT with you just to see it even for a short time.
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vulturesrow posted:Vriess definitely wins the battle of worst India visit. I guess maybe we did learn a few things from that experience. I know they treated the water onboard and to my knowledge the cases of GE are limited to those who did dumb things like drink water in town. We only had one night where Sailors were forced to sleep on the pier. The real kick in the balls was when we dropped anchor on day 1 and then realized we didn't have a single service ready (thanks India!) whereupon we weighed anchor and drove further out to get away from the shitwater. It was almost exactly a decade though when we got out of quarantine.
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Geizkragen posted:Yeah the best part of that Chennai visit that nobody told you was that the aircrew secretly got a stash of super anti diarrhea meds and Cipro to safely fly. So not everybody was making GBS threads themselves. (No kidding it happened in late night meetings in the wardroom.) Could have figured that because planes were still flying off the deck, and unless the pilots were climbing out the planes with lovely drawers and puke everywhere, they were getting hooked up with decent meds.
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LingcodKilla posted:Seabees are loving awesome. Wish I could do a AT with you just to see it even for a short time. This was in reference to the Norfolk nuke gal shoot. Also no, the Bees aren't.
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So Seabees ever actually, like, build
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:So Seabees ever actually, like, build not well
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:So Seabees ever actually, like, build I saw a Seabee standing next to LNs building poo poo. He had his hands in his pockets.
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My experience with Seabees: Buddy went active, got denied reenlistment at the seven year mark because he was too lazy to get his warfare pin. Liked to brag about tag teaming uggos with his roommate Guy I enlisted with went drafting aide in the reserves, nice guy, super catholic. Had an architecture degree from CU and was working on his masters. No clue why the gently caress he enlisted... considering he was probably more qualified to do his bosses job than his boss. TL;DR SeaBees R dum
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:So Seabees ever actually, like, build My grandpa was a seabee in ww2 at Guadalcanal. They had him do stevedore work unloading the ships. He was an experienced framer as a civ before and thought he would be doing that.
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ded posted:My grandpa was a seabee in ww2 at Guadalcanal. Actually surprised. The military used to be a lot better at using civilian skills. Like, my father in law was drafted in Vietnam and when the draft board saw that he was a chemist, they put him in Chem Corps and he spent his enlistment in Maryland assisting in crimes against humanity.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Actually surprised. The military used to be a lot better at using civilian skills. Like, my father in law was drafted in Vietnam and when the draft board saw that he was a chemist, they put him in Chem Corps and he spent his enlistment in Maryland assisting in crimes against humanity. I love how you can read that both ways.
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Reverand maynard posted:thats cool that he got to make napalm Oh, it wasn't napalm.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Actually surprised. The military used to be a lot better at using civilian skills. Like, my father in law was drafted in Vietnam and when the draft board saw that he was a chemist, they put him in Chem Corps and he spent his enlistment in Maryland assisting in crimes against humanity. Well the seabees did do a ton of actual building work in ww2. But at the time the island had a metric assload of ships that needed to be unloaded with cranes and no one had large equipment experience. Grandpa had been in the new deal work camps in the depression and was like gently caress it I'll give it a try. He turned out to be good at it so they had him running a crane.
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wikipedia posted:The agents tested included chemical warfare agents and other related agents:[5] One of these things is not like the others
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orange juche posted:One of these things is not like the others Yeah, nobody ever died from an overdose of cannabinoids.
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Anyone know if either pair of Marine corps hot or cold weather brown boots are authorized in type 3s with no ega? I have both pairs I was issued from a few years back and trying to be cheap
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Do the back in the military dreams stop at any point? I think it's funny that during my dreams I instantly go into a resigned "Do whatever the gently caress you want, I'm not even supposed to be here" mindset and then I just watch people gently caress everything up.
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Commoners posted:Do the back in the military dreams stop at any point? I think it's funny that during my dreams I instantly go into a resigned "Do whatever the gently caress you want, I'm not even supposed to be here" mindset and then I just watch people gently caress everything up. My friend have you heard of the reserves? Live out your dreams!
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Commoners posted:Do the back in the military dreams stop at any point? I think it's funny that during my dreams I instantly go into a resigned "Do whatever the gently caress you want, I'm not even supposed to be here" mindset and then I just watch people gently caress everything up. As of 25 years on, I can say--not yet.
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Virginia Slams posted:Anyone know if either pair of Marine corps hot or cold weather brown boots are authorized in type 3s with no ega? I have both pairs I was issued from a few years back and trying to be cheap Depends on if your chief gives a gently caress, really.
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Virginia Slams posted:Anyone know if either pair of Marine corps hot or cold weather brown boots are authorized in type 3s with no ega? I have both pairs I was issued from a few years back and trying to be cheap They managed to sneak in a "Navy certified NWU boot" into this reg. It gets rid of the "but it meets the criteria" back door everyone uses for black boots. It's really only the Belleville this time. Technically only the steel toe unless the CO authorizes the non steel toe. Although there is a PDF floating around with the Rocky boots. Not sure how true that is. (And yes, it's all about whether people care enough to bitch. Knowing that most chiefs exist only to enforce uniform standards and collect paychecks, I'd bet on getting called out)
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