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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:National events: by being Extremely Online. This is extremely accurate. I felt like I had just roleplayed an investigative journalist by the time I figured out that the two major platforms are called Momentum and Praxis and found their statements. It honestly makes me want to drive down to HQ and get answers because this is beyond incompetence. Like seriously a single, text-only, HTML webpage that they host and send everyone a link to would be a 1000% improvement and should be like a week project at the most. The convention isn't even on the DSA website's calendar! Speaking of which I just realized I have no idea what this Spring platform people are talking about is. And is the Winter platform the funny satire one?
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I Am A Robot posted:This is extremely accurate. I felt like I had just roleplayed an investigative journalist by the time I figured out that the two major platforms are called Momentum and Praxis and found their statements. It honestly makes me want to drive down to HQ and get answers because this is beyond incompetence. Like seriously a single, text-only, HTML webpage that they host and send everyone a link to would be a 1000% improvement and should be like a week project at the most. The convention isn't even on the DSA website's calendar! the winter platform is literally the only one I can confirm exists bc where the gently caress is this stuff even located
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our local is having our monthly meeting this Saturday so all this poo poo should be discussed ahead of the Chicago trip. and in true STL fashion, we're following it up by heading to a member's house (with a sizable yard) and having a BBQ. also we're making a visit to a shooting range later on in the week.
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I Am A Robot posted:This is extremely accurate. I felt like I had just roleplayed an investigative journalist by the time I figured out that the two major platforms are called Momentum and Praxis and found their statements. It honestly makes me want to drive down to HQ and get answers because this is beyond incompetence. Like seriously a single, text-only, HTML webpage that they host and send everyone a link to would be a 1000% improvement and should be like a week project at the most. The convention isn't even on the DSA website's calendar! i'm of the opinion that if someone can't be bothered to send me an easy to read file, i can't be bothered to care about it
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big black turnout posted:also how do y'all stay so fabulously up to date on dsa going ons Getting 100 emails a day (of which I read like 10) from the listserv.
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i think my favorite part of this so far is when they decided that putting every delegate in a mailing list together without BCC was a good idea
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Ace of Baes posted:Getting 100 emails a day (of which I read like 10) from the listserv. Could you post or pm a link for this? I've tried searching all over their site and I can't find it...
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big black turnout posted:Could you post or pm a link for this? I've tried searching all over their site and I can't find it... think that might just be for delegates. though wasn't there a slack at some point in time
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big black turnout posted:also how do y'all stay so fabulously up to date on dsa going ons Online, I participate in our local's slack, the dsa rocketchat stuff, use my basically unused facebook account to check my local's facebook a couple times a week, and I follow everyone from my local that I can on twitter. In person I go to something once a week and my wife typically goes to 2 a week and we compare notes on any that we didn't both go to.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:think that might just be for delegates. though wasn't there a slack at some point in time there's the rocket chat that I've filled the form out for 3 times now and never seen or heard anything from
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big black turnout posted:there's the rocket chat that I've filled the form out for 3 times now and never seen or heard anything from where can i get some of these forms
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Raskolnikov38 posted:where can i get some of these forms talk to your steering committee, mine just sent me the rocket chat stuff today
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big black turnout posted:there's the rocket chat that I've filled the form out for 3 times now and never seen or heard anything from something like 50 new people joined today after there not having been any new people joining in a while, so I think there's someone looking at the forms now. My wife and I joined as a family plan, so we had to choose one of us to use rocketchat and also we only got 1 vote in the straw poll a few months back, and only count as 1 member for our local, and national just like doesn't reply to anything so I'm like 3 months from my re-up and since national has no system to account for there being multiple people in a family I guess.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:where can i get some of these forms PM'd you edit: also im out here an undrivable distance from the closest established chapter, trying to scrape together enough folks for an organizing committee and id like to be prepared to fill people in on what's going on big black turnout has issued a correction as of 06:05 on Jul 19, 2017 |
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oh hell yes got my rocket chat info!!!!
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big black turnout posted:Could you post or pm a link for this? I've tried searching all over their site and I can't find it... its not public, ask your chair and they can give you access though, it's not like anything top-secret its mostly people promoting poo poo their local is doing or arguing about stuff
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fermun posted:something like 50 new people joined today after there not having been any new people joining in a while, so I think there's someone looking at the forms now. This is messed up, you should DM larrywebsite.
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Ace of Baes posted:This is messed up, you should DM larrywebsite. don't mislead the poor guy
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:change of subject: thoughts on how to mediate/deal with harassment, bad acts, or fights/interpersonal issues between DSA members in different chapters? castrate the men
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aww gently caress ya my rocket chat poo poo came in fake edit: holy poo poo there are a billion channels on this thing this rules real edit: Ace of Baes posted:its not public, ask your chair and they can give you access though, it's not like anything top-secret its mostly people promoting poo poo their local is doing or arguing about stuff ok allow me to ask a stupid question... chair of what?
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big black turnout posted:aww gently caress ya my rocket chat poo poo came in your local chapter? or whoever was there when the OC formed, if you dont have either of those bc you dont have a DSA start one and youll get access to the listserv
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Ace of Baes posted:your local chapter? or whoever was there when the OC formed, if you dont have either of those bc you dont have a DSA start one and youll get access to the listserv ok cool thanks. yeah I'm trying to get together an organizing committee here right now
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big black turnout posted:ok cool thanks. yeah I'm trying to get together an organizing committee here right now Print out Organizing for Justice (main site under resources), it will be helpful.
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Ace of Baes posted:castrate the men ace of baes for npc
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I can't go to the convention cause it's loving full and I feel like poo poo!
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Welcome,,, to the DSA Experience
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lol so no one here actually knows what the spring platform is?Business Gorillas posted:i think my favorite part of this so far is when they decided that putting every delegate in a mailing list together without BCC was a good idea 
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Do I have to be a delegate or just a paying dues member to get in on socialist chat?
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Martin Random posted:Do I have to be a delegate or just a paying dues member to get in on socialist chat? you have to just be a paying dues member and fill out the form, but much like the membership packets, there's a wait because the approvals are done manually whenever the (volunteer) approvers have time to get around to it
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I Am A Robot posted:lol so no one here actually knows what the spring platform is? It's that thing that helps Mario jump higher
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I Am A Robot posted:lol so no one here actually knows what the spring platform is? https://dsaspringplatform.org/
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Jaffe was at the general tonight and joined a working group. He's an active comrade now.
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fermun posted:Jaffe was at the general tonight and joined a working group. He's an active comrade now. I'd take a socialist who decided to run over a politician who decided to become a "socialist", but who knows if he's going to regular meetings maybe he'll become radicalized, class consciousness is a hella of a drug.
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Ace of Baes posted:I'd take a socialist who decided to run over a politician who decided to become a "socialist", but who knows if he's going to regular meetings maybe he'll become radicalized, class consciousness is a hella of a drug. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer that too, and I have a lot of concerns about some of Jaffe's supporters. I just think it's funny that Jaffe joined a working group because I honestly did not expect that.
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He's been pretty consistent showing up for the past few weeks. I mean, obviously he has alterior motives but I don't think he'd put that much into it if he wasn't at least somewhat sincere. Maybe I'm naive.
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