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Basebf555 posted:I honestly think that's why a lot of these game store types stink, it's because they've completely let go of the idea of a romantic relationship either now or in the future, and once you've done that hygiene is a lot less important. Doubly so if you have nowhere to go that's paying you to show up in a reasonably normal state. This assumes that these dudes are self-aware enough to realize that 1) they stank, 2) the people they want to date enjoy dating people with good hygiene. Part of the reason geeknerds end up as geeknerds is a general lack of self-awareness and effort. Also a lot of them have untreated depression, which tends to do a number on one's hygiene ability because when you hate yourself, self-care goes right out the window. Of course, this means that any store that allows stank-rear end geeknerds to hover around getting their stench everywhere is doing nobody any favors.
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Basebf555 posted:Oh please, they've given up on getting a date, they've walled that area of their brain off permanently. I'm at the point in my life where I've let go of the idea of a romantic relationship, but I at least still have the decency to bathe and wear antiperspirant daily. The lack of hygiene probably came first.
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SpacePig posted:I'm at the point in my life where I've let go of the idea of a romantic relationship, but I at least still have the decency to bathe and wear antiperspirant daily. The lack of hygiene probably came first. I guess I just have such a hard time believing that they don't realize. I'll admit I've had issues with depression, and sometimes that meant sitting around the house in my own stink, but the stink was clearly there and noticeable. I mean, even if I allowed myself to live that way for long enough that I couldn't detect my own smell anymore, I'd never delude myself into thinking it had magically disappeared. Don't most people understand that if you're immersed in a bad smell for a long time you won't be able to smell it anymore? I just think they've given up and don't care about the stink because "hey, all of us here at the gaming store stink so what does it matter?", then on that one occasion when an attractive girl does show up, they're uncomfortable because it's the real world encroaching on their fantasyland and deep down they realize yes, I do have terrible BO and am not prepared to speak with a girl without her eyes watering due to my stink.
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Basebf555 posted:I guess I just have such a hard time believing that they don't realize. I'll admit I've had issues with depression, and sometimes that meant sitting around the house in my own stink, but the stink was clearly there and noticeable. I mean, even if I allowed myself to live that way for long enough that I couldn't detect my own smell anymore, I'd never delude myself into thinking it had magically disappeared. Don't most people understand that if you're immersed in a bad smell for a long time you won't be able to smell it anymore? Remember the talk earlier about the autistic dude who had to have it explained to him that picking one's nose at the card table isn't cool? Whole lotta these folks are most likely on the spectrum and have some problems with the idea that "other people have a point of view." The lucky ones have people tell them gently, "Dude, no." The unlucky ones just get quietly avoided and shunted off to one side until the gamer store is their only social outlet because myriad terrible habits have been allowed to fester. ETA: I do think there's some level of discomfort when a perceived outsider (like someone with tits) shows up, but it's more "OH GOD HERE COMES SOMEONE UNFAMILIAR TO JUDGE ME WITH THEIR UNFATHOMABLE STANDARDS!"
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Basebf555 posted:I guess I just have such a hard time believing that they don't realize. I'll admit I've had issues with depression, and sometimes that meant sitting around the house in my own stink, but the stink was clearly there and noticeable. I mean, even if I allowed myself to live that way for long enough that I couldn't detect my own smell anymore, I'd never delude myself into thinking it had magically disappeared. Don't most people understand that if you're immersed in a bad smell for a long time you won't be able to smell it anymore? I think that's probably more likely. Their friends smell, and the store they're in probably also smells, so they assume it's OK to also smell. However, having dealt with smelly nerds, and having been pretty close to being the smelly nerd previously, some of can also come from living a lifestyle that makes you build up stink bad enough in a single day that unless you take the time to take a full shower multiple times a day, you'll probably stink by the time you get the opportunity to hang out with your friends. Alternately, though, they're people who read a blog or misunderstood an episode of Adam Ruins Everything or something where they said it's medically unnecessary to bathe every day, and took that to mean "Don't bathe every day." e: I think the only reason I managed to keep from being the smelly nerd in adulthood is because I met a guy at community college that was like looking into the future. An anime-obsessed fatso who didn't really know how to make friends, and thought a good way to break the ice would be to, in what I guess was an offering in our shared interest in anime, show a group of people a anime tentacle porn picture full screen on his laptop. I took a long, hard look at my life after that. SpacePig has a new favorite as of 21:16 on Jul 17, 2017 |
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I definitely sympathize with kids who are high school age, so they're old enough to be dating and having relationships, but their home situation is so bad that they end up walking out of the house with a terrible smell attached to them. I knew a few people like that in high school and I really felt bad for them.
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So I'm a manager at a local game and comics shop. Wild card, we also sell sports merch which sets us apart from most stores. Anyways, we strive to be a clean and odor free store and we make it very clear that the typical poo poo behaviors are unwelcome. We still have some super creeps that just won't stay away. The most well known among the staff is this enormous mass of a dude. He's 6'6" and probably 300lbs and he's built in the weirdest way, like all his weight is piled on his upper torso and head. He's pretty socially awkward, he doesn't know how to have a normal conversation at all. Like he'll pick something up off the shelf and yell "OH MY GOD CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS EXISTS" to no one in particular. Pretty much the best thing he's ever done was ask how much a book was and upon finding out he didn't have the money he put the book in his mouth and loving BITES IT. "There, now it's mine for sure." We had to kick a long time customer out of the store for good because he wouldn't stop creeping on the women I worked with. We caught him hiding behind a shelf and taking video of one of them, it was just ridiculous. He'd previously nearly gotten into a fist fight with another customer because a girl had chosen the other guy over him. Not that he ever had a chance with the girl, that's just the scenario he'd come up with in his own head. ABout a year ago a quiet dude was wandering the store. He wasn't doing anything odd or creepy, just going up and down the aisles. Then I smelled it. The dude had poo poo his pants and since he was wearing athletic shorts it splattered down his legs and he left a trail on the floor. Which I of course had to mop up. And I will admit that I was the creepy dude at least one time. Years back a girl came into the store looking for Green Lantern stuff. I was showing her what we had on hand and she said "no, the original GL, Alan." I was like "You know who Alan Scott is??? Will you marry me?" Oddly she declined my proposal. I have tons of stories of terrible things people have done in the store, I'll post more later.
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"We both like the same movie/t.v show/other nerd thing? Will you marry me?" used to be a pretty light joke that nobody would mistake as a serious question, but now there are enough broken people who actually think liking some of the same things in pop culture is a legit reason to marry someone so you can't blame women for not being able to tell if it's a joke anymore.
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Realtalk: I've never been in an unpleasant or smelly store in my area. My GF follows me into every one and no one has ever stopped what they're doing and stared at her before - usually just peeps playing MTG while we stroll in looking at 40K stuff or board games. If any other Fort Wayne goons have had issues with a store here i'd be interested in hearing it. I guess the worst experience I've had is kind of my girlfriend's fault - she had a decent-sized pull list of comics that she slowly fell out of love with over time, and instead of telling the store upfront she wanted to cancel her pull-list she emails them and asks them to cancel it because we're moving. We did not move, and now that's one less comic shop we can go in without it being awkward.
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Basebf555 posted:I guess I just have such a hard time believing that they don't realize. I'll admit I've had issues with depression, and sometimes that meant sitting around the house in my own stink, but the stink was clearly there and noticeable. I mean, even if I allowed myself to live that way for long enough that I couldn't detect my own smell anymore, I'd never delude myself into thinking it had magically disappeared. Don't most people understand that if you're immersed in a bad smell for a long time you won't be able to smell it anymore?
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Our brains slowly filter out smells from the environment in order to be able to smell the really dangerous stuff. Its why we almost never notice our own funk (and if we do its REALLY bad).
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Tiggum posted:Haven't you ever encountered a smoker who chain-smokes in their house or car and thinks anyone who complains about the smell is just being overly sensitive? People absolutely do delude themselves into thinking that if they can't smell it then neither can anyone else. I thought that until I quit smoking after 2 packs a day for 20 years. I can smell a smoker from 50 yards away now. It's a beautiful bouquet.
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Rhyno posted:ABout a year ago a quiet dude was wandering the store. He wasn't doing anything odd or creepy, just going up and down the aisles. Then I smelled it. The dude had poo poo his pants and since he was wearing athletic shorts it splattered down his legs and he left a trail on the floor. Which I of course had to mop up. While I'm remembering nerd store stories, a big shoutout to the 20-somethings who let me and my middle school friends pay $10 each to play Halo 1 over 2 LAN consoles all afternoon in the back of their game store. We were very annoying and you guys never complained.
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Golden Bee posted:r/rpg is SURPRISINGLY pro-PbTA now. The top posts are usually "Go with it" or "Talk to the player OOC you dumbass." It's really hard to not love that system, if just for how over-the-top the fighter classes always are in every variant I've seen (but also the fact that it genuinely tries to tell the GM what to loving do which has always been a problem in DnD and the like).
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Somfin posted:It's really hard to not love that system, if just for how over-the-top the fighter classes always are in every variant I've seen (but also the fact that it genuinely tries to tell the GM what to loving do which has always been a problem in DnD and the like). Although I made the mistake of both going to /tg and trying to talk about PbTA there. Inescapable Duck posted:It's probably already been mentioned, but the key to enjoying D&D is to get a group of people who are already fun and on the same page as you, rather than grabbing anyone who happens to know the rules. They're not that hard to learn. (and if they are, you're probably playing a bad game and/or with stupid people) Also, this is sage advice. Just find people from work/school and ask them if they'd like to try. My bad FLGS experiences are pretty much what you would expect. Multiple instances of BO and overweight dudes chugging monsters, nothing like the sweet/sour smell of sugar and armpits! When I was 18 I was just getting into RPGs, having only played a bit of 3.5e and CoC. My friends and I wanted to give 4e a shot so we went to the mall to buy the rulebooks. This wasn't even a gaming store, it was a Barnes and Noble or something. The cashier was easily in his 30's, and proceeded tell to a bunch of 18 year olds that the game they wanted to buy was poo poo. We just nodded politely and asked him to ring us out. He complained about 4e the entire time. We ultimately ended up playing more CoC and Savage Worlds than either edition of DnD. My other experiences are mostly just a lack of customer service or having super narrow spacing between shelves and spaces that are a pain in the dick to navigate. RobotDogPolice has a new favorite as of 10:16 on Jul 18, 2017 |
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oldpainless posted:ARe you a woman? Nope. But I had my girlfriend with me ...
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RagnarokAngel posted:Our brains slowly filter out smells from the environment in order to be able to smell the really dangerous stuff. Its why we almost never notice our own funk (and if we do its REALLY bad). Think you're right. I was once playing an rpg at a convention (the game itself was a whole other bunch of WTF) with the group and DM all gathered around a table. Then the player to one side of the DM shifts to sit at the far end of the table. Then the player on the other side does the same. Then another player joins them ... When the smell finally wafted down to hit me, it was like rotting garbage. It's one of the few times in my life that I could actually smell someone approaching and moving away - this guy carried a miasma of odour around with him. All us players ended up in a cluster at the opposite end of the table from the DM, who appeared to be utterly oblivious to his own stink.
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The thing with a lot of the smelly people is they've probably been bullied their whole lives so if someone tries to lightly hint that they should probably wear deodorant or w/e a combo of natural defensiveness and lack of self odor awareness just makes them think the person is being mean to them and they disregard the message entirely My only experience with nerd stores is when I was with my grandma in elementary school or middle school and she'd drop me off at a comic store where I'd just read for hours while she shopped. It was in penn state college and the owner was a cool bearded dude who would just let me do whatever.i don't remember the place having weird people or smells in it
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Double post. God I hate iphones
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I think a decent chunk of nerds also took the "a real partner will love you for who you are" to the realms of hygeine and personal upkeep and get pissy they can only find people who also stink and are gross.
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I went to a game store once because they had some stuff in stock on their website and I thought I could just swing by and buy whatever rather than buying it online and waiting for it to be delivered. The first weirdness was that the store was located in an office building, a few floors up and through a travel agent's office. Once I walked into the actual store there was a humidity and stank that was unbearable. The place was full of nerds playing cards and there were a few metal shelves at the back of the room with board games on them. Nothing was labelled as if it was for sale and the smell was so bad I left and bought my stuff online. The only other time I've been to a nerd store was to one that advertises itself as a board game library / play space. It's also hot and stinky but not unbearably so. They have games you can play for free or you can just bring your own games to play. My friends and I sat down and got about 20 minutes into a game when all of a sudden there were a hundred nerds looming over us explaining that they'd booked the place for a Magic tournament or whatever. Idk why the manager wouldn't mention this to us when we got there but whatever, we left and went to a Starbucks instead. I really don't get why nerd stores are always so hot? You think they'd crank the AC to combat the naturally high body heat of the average nerd and maybe pump some potpourri through the air ducts as well? I know that nerds are a victimised people and games stores are their refuge from the world but I feel like if they could work on being slightly less frosty towards non-nerds that wanted to play board games or cards they'd suddenly find themselves feeling less like social outcasts.
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So, I may have mentioned this before, but I take my kids to a Pokemon League thing at my local nerd store. It's certainly not my scene, and I am appalled at the poo poo that my kids have to put up with and situations I'm constantly pulling them out of. The adults there playing try to get my kids to put up pretty expensive cards as prizes for games. Playing with different rules than the ones they know. Telling my son he can't help my daughter (who isn't old enough to read well enough to fully understand what's going on). Holy poo poo man, this is a kid's game with little cartoon creatures. Chill the gently caress out. More than once I've had to interrupt some greasy dude's attempt to scam my kid out of a card that was put up as a prize for a game that was played with rules that my son has never played with before. I've had to take my son's cards out of dudes hands. I gotta find a new place to take them.
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cyberia posted:I know that nerds are a victimised people and games stores are their refuge from the world but I feel like if they could work on being slightly less frosty towards non-nerds that wanted to play board games or cards they'd suddenly find themselves feeling less like social outcasts.
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cyberia posted:I went to a game store once because they had some stuff in stock on their website and I thought I could just swing by and buy whatever rather than buying it online and waiting for it to be delivered. The first weirdness was that the store was located in an office building, a few floors up and through a travel agent's office. Once I walked into the actual store there was a humidity and stank that was unbearable. The place was full of nerds playing cards and there were a few metal shelves at the back of the room with board games on them. Nothing was labelled as if it was for sale and the smell was so bad I left and bought my stuff online. The second place has a big sign at the front about how you are expected to have basic hygiene and can be kicked out if you smell bad, but that still doesn't stop the creeps. My group is about 80% female and we have a 'no going upstairs, only play in the bar downstairs' rule when we want to try out some new boardgames there because of the amount of swivel that happens and general creepiness. The bar seems to get a lot less weirdos as there's no tournaments or tables for big mtg games. Still go there because they do nerd trivia on not-poo poo topics generally.
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Grem posted:So, I may have mentioned this before, but I take my kids to a Pokemon League thing at my local nerd store. It's certainly not my scene, and I am appalled at the poo poo that my kids have to put up with and situations I'm constantly pulling them out of. The adults there playing try to get my kids to put up pretty expensive cards as prizes for games. Playing with different rules than the ones they know. Telling my son he can't help my daughter (who isn't old enough to read well enough to fully understand what's going on). Holy poo poo man, this is a kid's game with little cartoon creatures. Chill the gently caress out. More than once I've had to interrupt some greasy dude's attempt to scam my kid out of a card that was put up as a prize for a game that was played with rules that my son has never played with before. I've had to take my son's cards out of dudes hands. I gotta find a new place to take them. I'm not a violent or vindictive person but I would seriously berate and possibly slap a disgusting adult nerd over this. gently caress just put an age limit up
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Metos posted:As soon as I arrived she rushed over as fast as possible and clung to me as the patrons were apparently basically doing creep orbits of her, every eye in the room was looking straight at us, and when trying to very quickly pay for the game and get the hell out of there the guy behind the counter would only talk directly to her and ignored me doing every step of the purchasing. Never been back. barely even my story but a long whiles ago a very, very attractive girl neck deep in goth chic started working at the GW i went to once in a while, it was normally very quiet except when games were happening and i was there to see if they had a certain model in stock and if not, i'd order it through them and it pick it up later - she seemed really stoked about working there, they didn't have what i wanted so she talked my ear off with suggestions that were better alternatives more in line with the game's current meta but since i only really wanted it for display i made the order, i also found out she was going to the same university as me and this was going to be a full-time summer job a few weeks later when i came in for the pick up and i found an abnormally large mess of dweebs just lounging around the store more or less orbiting this girl, she'd move around the store and they'd shuffle about following her, having conversations with each other but not taking their eyes off her, it seemed like they had no other reason to be there and maybe they all started hanging out when they found out she worked there? she was very obviously creeped the gently caress out by this; i picked up my order and left, feeling just a bit like i'd left someone with a pack of thirsty wolves- it goes without saying i never saw her working there again shame too, i never had a problem with that store myself, it was a borderline normal place to be but i guess it didn't take much to disturb that image
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Pokémon/Magic/whatever has to be cutthroat with no mercy given to the weak or inexperienced. Otherwise it would be impossible to maintain the delusion that this is an appropriate way for adult men to spend their time in the middle of what should be a loving work day.
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Basebf555 posted:in the middle of what should be a loving work day. what
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cyberia posted:
Probably because nerds are cheap assholes and AC would cost money that they would rather spend on more trinkets for their club house
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hawowanlawow posted:what The motherf*ckers don't even work. That's why they're out at the f*ckin' game. They oughta go out and get a f*ckin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a f*ckin' living. Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
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Jordan7hm posted:The motherf*ckers don't even work. That's why they're out at the f*ckin' game. They oughta go out and get a f*ckin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a f*ckin' living. Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers. 
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hard counter posted:barely even my story but a long whiles ago a very, very attractive girl neck deep in goth chic started working at the GW i went to once in a while, it was normally very quiet except when games were happening and i was there to see if they had a certain model in stock and if not, i'd order it through them and it pick it up later - she seemed really stoked about working there, they didn't have what i wanted so she talked my ear off with suggestions that were better alternatives more in line with the game's current meta but since i only really wanted it for display i made the order, i also found out she was going to the same university as me and this was going to be a full-time summer job One of the malls near me has two gamestops for some reason on different floors but I went there like a year back to get my cousin a game for Christmas and there was a really attractive girl working there who was super into games and engaging and was talking to me about what I like to play etc. I'm gay but even with that I was trying to seem as not creepy as possible because I can only imagine the amounts of poo poo she probably has to deal with
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Honestly the temptation is there to engage with female clerks at nerd stores as little as possible because I assume they prefer it that way. They probably get into that line of work super into their hobby and nerd culture in general only to have it crushed out of them by getting creeped on 24/7.
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i can see the temptation looking at things that way yeah but it's probably best to just engage with everyone like you would normally, like if a clerk's happens to be busy or feeling chatty that day you should probably respond appropriately on those terms instead of going off too much in one direction or another just because of who they are, being distant with someone like they have cooties can be off-putting too - it's real easy to not be creepy anyway, just keep it topical, don't pester someone for dates/ask way too personal questions and don't make day plans to awkwardly hover around someone with unblinking stares and heavy breathing 
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hawowanlawow posted:what Adults should, whenever possible, have jobs and some sort of income, as opposed to sitting around all day in the game store. It really helps with self-worth to have somewhere to go that actually pays you to show up.
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Basebf555 posted:Adults should, whenever possible, have jobs and some sort of income, as opposed to sitting around all day in the game store. It really helps with self-worth to have somewhere to go that actually pays you to show up. I was just wondering what specifically sent you down that road. I was with you on your mockery of rules sticklers taking advantage of kids, but then you made it weird with the "get a job" stuff
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hawowanlawow posted:I was just wondering what specifically sent you down that road. I was with you on your mockery of rules sticklers taking advantage of kids, but then you made it weird with the "get a job" stuff I was responding to the guy who said he has to constantly protect his kids from older people who are trying to rip them off when playing(of all things)Pokémon. The reason they take the game so seriously is because if they don't, that means they're spending all day every day playing a game for children, which is something they don't want to accept. Having a job is just one of the many things they could be doing with their time other than hanging out at the game store, but it's one of the most productive. It really does wonders for the self-esteem, regardless of if it's a lovely minimum wage job or not. I've been unemployed before and the difference in the way I felt about myself after I found full-time work was night and day. Having a job is also something that signifies adulthood, which again is something they want to put off as long as possible.
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Well one, Pokémon tournaments are usually on weekends right? And two, there's nothing about earning a wage that prevents one from going home and performing fellatio. Three, the site is somethingawful.com, there's no reason why you should be censoring swearwords. It looks ridiculous.
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Yeah its a leap to assume this tourney was at like 11 am on a thursday. If the op brought his kids one would assume he wasnt at work and his kids werent in school at that time. Second even if its a random weekday its 2017, not everyone works monday to Friday. Hell i have a full time job but my days off are Tuesday and Wednesday. Lastly, nerd hobbies are expensive. Many do have jobs. They might suck at saving money but usually that money is coming from somewhere (and not everyone has parents to do it).
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Golden Bee posted:Well one, Pokémon tournaments are usually on weekends right? And two, there's nothing about earning a wage that prevents one from going home and performing fellatio. http://quote.webcircle.com/cgi-bin/features.cgi?idFeature=4
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