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Basebf555 posted:What do they "want back" exactly? Those stories still exist don't they? If they're pining away for the continued adventures of Corran Horn then I think they've got a long time to wait... Do they? Disney's already brought back Thrawn. Eventually, probably soon, someone will get lazy and then bam, Mara Jade.
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I was curious to see where the EU ended, apparently this was the last novel. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Crucible_(novel) I'm not reading that exhaustive plot summary, but holy poo poo, we're talking a 63 year old Luke (and Leia) and an 80 year old Han Solo still carrying the story.
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General Dog posted:I was curious to see where the EU ended, apparently this was the last novel. Well, part of that is helped by the fact that they play "Its the future and medicine is way better" straight, and 55 is seen as early middle age. Han is barely touching 'old' on that scale.
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jivjov posted:Well, part of that is helped by the fact that they play "Its the future and medicine is way better" straight, and 55 is seen as early middle age. Han is barely touching 'old' on that scale. I know Obi-Wan got a lot of sun in his latter years, but he was looking pretty brittle when he died at 57 years old (according to Wookiepedia).
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Jul 19, 2017 22:17
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Guiness was only 61 or so
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it only got brought up in the books to justify octogenarian Han still being hale and hearty.
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Jul 19, 2017 22:21
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Obi Wan spent his days in Mos Eisley, chain smoking death sticks and pounding Jawa Juice
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I'm pretty sure that Tatooine isn't exactly a great place to enjoy the best of healthcare technology, especially if your lifestyle is 'hermit.'
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Jul 19, 2017 23:07
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TIE Silencer, named by FO engineers with a sense of humor. Otherwise they would call it the TIE Tantrum.
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Jul 19, 2017 23:20
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I really, absolutely hope they double down on Kylo as a weird, needy, awkward loser pissbaby with superpowers. He's probably my favourite thing about 7.
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Jul 19, 2017 23:24
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Having just rewatched Return of the Jedi, people really over play how much Ewoks "beat up" the Empire. It's more like they offer a distraction that the Rebels use to launch a countermeasure and manage to take out some walkers and hit some people with sticks when they're unaware.
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Jul 19, 2017 23:32
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I'm re-watching Rogue One to see if I like it anymore for a third time. As long as we have endless re-releases of the OT and Prequels, maybe they could re-release Rogue One with a brand new score. Good grief. Poor Giacchino, I'm sure he'd love to have this one back.
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Covok posted:Having just rewatched Return of the Jedi, people really over play how much Ewoks "beat up" the Empire. It's more like they offer a distraction that the Rebels use to launch a countermeasure and manage to take out some walkers and hit some people with sticks when they're unaware. Yeah the movie shows pretty clearly that when they try to help out head on they get owned. Once they start using traps and ambushing them it turns the tide for the Rebels. The Ewoks are fine, just the entire detour to their village and everything takes forever. It's comparable to the kids in Thunderdome. The kids are rad, it's just that the movie grinds to a halt out of nowhere.
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The son of Han and grandson of Anakin is prob gonna be a good pilot. Wrap it up Empire-remakeailures, Kylo is flying a TIE like in ANH
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Jul 20, 2017 00:39
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Gonz posted:It's not George Lucas' fault. He was born and raised underneath a vast networked grid of high tension power lines. This is the force and it flows through you. Drink full and descend. The krayt dragon is the white of the eyes and dark side within.
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Covok posted:Having just rewatched Return of the Jedi, people really over play how much Ewoks "beat up" the Empire. It's more like they offer a distraction that the Rebels use to launch a countermeasure and manage to take out some walkers and hit some people with sticks when they're unaware. Maybe, but that part where the rebels are surrounded outside the shield generator and the Ewoks rescue them by throwing a couple of rocks from the trees on the stormtroopers is pretty bad.
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The MSJ posted:TIE Silencer, named by FO engineers with a sense of humor. Otherwise they would call it the TIE Tantrum. Instead of the iconic 'scream' the TIE Silencer emits a nasally, incredibly annoying whine.
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I think somebody explained to me in this thread before why this wouldn't work, but I forgot, so: Wouldn't you use a lightsaber like a fencing sword? Like you just need to make contact with your opponent to gently caress them up enough that they couldn't fight you anymore. So you wouldn't wind up and take a huge swings at them, right?
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PostNouveau posted:Wouldn't you use a lightsaber like a fencing sword? Like you just need to make contact with your opponent to gently caress them up enough that they couldn't fight you anymore. So you wouldn't wind up and take a huge swings at them, right? It seems like a lot of the time these lightsaber duels come down to the sabers clashing, and then which person is able to use leverage from there to catch his opponent off balance for a quick finish. So brute strength is still relevant because you have to deal with the other person's guard and potentially force(no pun intended!) your way through it.
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99% of the time Jedi are fighting guys without their own laser sword. They're also canon morons.
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PostNouveau posted:Maybe, but that part where the rebels are surrounded outside the shield generator and the Ewoks rescue them by throwing a couple of rocks from the trees on the stormtroopers is pretty bad. Meh, they had bows and arrows and were firing a volley of arrows from a postion where they completely surrounded the enemy. A lot of them were unarnored officers and the enemy had an advantegous position. Makes sense for the officers to retreat to safety and the stormtroopers to advance to engage the enemy. The real mistake was not dividing their forces to keep the rebels captured to avoid growing enemy forces: they don't need that much force to take down those Ewoks. It's understandable, though, as the officiers failed to take control and give orders due to their surprise and desire to get out of the volley so the troopers acted on their training without tactics (retake the advantage, engage the enemy, protect the officers). PostNouveau posted:I think somebody explained to me in this thread before why this wouldn't work, but I forgot, so: Star Wars is inspired by Akira Kurosawa Samurai flicks, though. Also, Dooku does use his swords like a fencing sword. Only doing saber clashes to counter his opponent's attempts.
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Covok posted:Star Wars is inspired by Akira Kurosawa Samurai flicks, though. Also, Dooku does use his swords like a fencing sword. Only doing saber clashes to counter his opponent's attempts. The way the lightsabers are used in the OT(so we're talking about Obi-Wan, Vader, and Luke here) really isn't reminiscent of Kurosawa's samurai though, it's a lot more of a medieval knight style as if they're carrying a broadsword. Kurosawa's characters tended to use extremely fast and decisive movements, and the fights were over very quickly. Nothing like the long looping swings of Vader or Obi-Wan. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb6RRuiFVbc Of course, the famous exception to the rule is the cantina scene, which is obviously heavily inspired by the Yojimbo scene I just posted. But overall the duels themselves are not in that style.
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PostNouveau posted:I think somebody explained to me in this thread before why this wouldn't work, but I forgot, so: There are lots of tactics that "should" work with lightsabers but aren't used in the films because they don't make for good fights. For instance, if your opponent tries to block your swing, you could deactivate the blade just before contact and then reactivate it on the other side, neatly slicing them in two.
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Is there a canon reason why Jedi don't just force-deactivate an enemy lightsaber mid battle?
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Detective No. 27 posted:Is there a canon reason why Jedi don't just force-deactivate an enemy lightsaber mid battle? Presumably the person you're fighting against is also using the Force to stop that.
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Zoran posted:There are lots of tactics that "should" work with lightsabers but aren't used in the films because they don't make for good fights. For instance, if your opponent tries to block your swing, you could deactivate the blade just before contact and then reactivate it on the other side, neatly slicing them in two. Lightsabers don't retract and extend out instantly, so this just seems like a good way to get yourself sliced.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Is there a canon reason why Jedi don't just force-deactivate an enemy lightsaber mid battle? I think Luke does this to someone in one of those EU novels.
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thrawn527 posted:Presumably the person you're fighting against is also using the Force to stop that. yeah my no-prize explanation for "why don't they..." in lightsaber fights is that since what we're seeing is obviously ~the way it is~, there must be a reason for it which must be that all of the non-visible force poo poo going on is a big factor
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Didn't Lucas once describe his original vision for the lightsaber battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin as the physical swordfight just being a layer on top of a supernatural contest of wills happening invisible to the naked eye? These days they would turn that into an excuse to green-screen the whole thing and load it down with overbearing CGI while the swordfight goes down like some Doctor Strange poo poo.
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Serf posted:Didn't Lucas once describe his original vision for the lightsaber battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin as the physical swordfight just being a layer on top of a supernatural contest of wills happening invisible to the naked eye? These days they would turn that into an excuse to green-screen the whole thing and load it down with overbearing CGI while the swordfight goes down like some Doctor Strange poo poo. His original vision was for the laser swords to be really heavy and hard to move for some *science-y* reasons.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Is there a canon reason why Jedi don't just force-deactivate an enemy lightsaber mid battle? No, but there is a Legend's reason. Force users can create a "force bubble" around themselves which is essentially them using their own control of the Force to auto-block an opponent's use. It's why they don't do a lot of things with the Force during a duel. It both takes a while to concentrate (time you don't have) and the person is likely blocking minor attempts at it so you got to really put omph (aka a lot of time) to make any effect.
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Serf posted:These days they would turn that into an excuse to green-screen the whole thing and load it down with overbearing CGI while the swordfight goes down like some Doctor Strange poo poo. You're walking right into one here.
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It seems like if two Jedi/Sith/whatever are fighting with lightsabers, it's because they either have some basic respect for each other(Vader/Obi Wan), or they're so evenly matched in Force abilities that the sabers are the only decider left(Dooku/Yoda). Regardless, I always got the feeling that lightsaber combat is considered somewhat sacred, almost ritualistic, and so dirty underhanded tricks would be frowned upon. Of course, tell that to Qui-Gon, you can't get too up in arms over an elbow to the face when you're dead.
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Covok posted:Meh, they had bows and arrows and were firing a volley of arrows from a postion where they completely surrounded the enemy. A lot of them were unarnored officers and the enemy had an advantegous position. Makes sense for the officers to retreat to safety and the stormtroopers to advance to engage the enemy. The real mistake was not dividing their forces to keep the rebels captured to avoid growing enemy forces: they don't need that much force to take down those Ewoks. It's understandable, though, as the officiers failed to take control and give orders due to their surprise and desire to get out of the volley so the troopers acted on their training without tactics (retake the advantage, engage the enemy, protect the officers). The easiest way to fix the whole battle is through quantity, like the bugs swarming the outpost in Starship Troopers. If it's thousands of Ewoks fearlessly storming the soldiers, it would both be believable for them to win and would add the emotional punch of them being willing to sacrifice many lives to contribute to a cause they know little about. When it comes to believability, quantity is something Star Wars has always struggled with.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:The easiest way to fix the whole battle is through quantity, like the bugs swarming the outpost in Starship Troopers. If it's thousands of Ewoks fearlessly storming the soldiers, it would both be believable for them to win and would add the emotional punch of them being willing to sacrifice many lives to contribute to a cause they know little about. When you put it like that, it's kinda surprising that no CG Ewoks were added to the RotJ Special Edition.
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Basebf555 posted:When you put it like that, it's kinda surprising that no CG Ewoks were added to the RotJ Special Edition. It might have been considered, but have been infeasible. Ewoks are pretty fuzzy, and CGI fuzz didn't really come into maturity until Monsters Inc in 2001.
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Serf posted:Didn't Lucas once describe his original vision for the lightsaber battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin as the physical swordfight just being a layer on top of a supernatural contest of wills happening invisible to the naked eye? These days they would turn that into an excuse to green-screen the whole thing and load it down with overbearing CGI while the swordfight goes down like some Doctor Strange poo poo. That's a classic swordfight/martial arts trope.
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