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Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Pick posted:

I really don't think these people are trying very hard for a job.

It's not so much about current incels trying to get a jobs, more that the coming generations might not have jobs to go to, which equals more incels.

Probably also more super buff Chads with nothing to do but work out tbh.

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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
There will always be jobs. One of the things the government does is create jobs, not for explicitly economic reasons, but because people get all hosed up if they're not doing something they perceive as meaningful.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Pick posted:

There will always be jobs.

Not necessarily.

https://www.theguardian.com/careers/2016/may/11/robot-jobs-automated-work

The only jobs that don't look automatable are ones with a strong social element and potential or actual incels ain't going to do that well.

Pick posted:

people get all hosed up if they're not doing something they perceive as meaningful.

... welcome to the Incel thread?

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Speaking of the future and automation, I wonder if Robocop was an incel or a robochad

I'm gonna guess incel cause there's no way omni would give him a robopenis

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




If I girl would ever smile to me, I would probably end up with a heart attack or any other heart failure. The impact of a smile would be probably that huge, that I cannot deal with it. Anyway, a smile can have an unforeseeable consequence and I would rather not know how I am going to respond to such a smile. Not only physically, but also mentally, a smile might mean that it puts my past in a whole new perspective. It means that the past is useless compared to my current situation in which someone smiled at me.

So I try to never look women into their eyes, but when I do, they look really indifferent. I bet that is the safest for my well-being.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

These guys are incredibly good at finding pictures of really, really hot guys to represent "Chad" and coming up with extremely graphic descriptions of how well-endowed he is.

They have Chad-envy and think the average man has a 9 inch dick

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Not necessarily.

https://www.theguardian.com/careers/2016/may/11/robot-jobs-automated-work

The only jobs that don't look automatable are ones with a strong social element and potential or actual incels ain't going to do that well.


... welcome to the Incel thread?

No, I mean there will always be jobs because we'll make sure there are jobs. Cleaning litter, gardening, whatever. You can't govern if people are paying attention.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Pick posted:

No, I mean there will always be jobs because we'll make sure there are jobs. Cleaning litter, gardening, whatever. You can't govern if people are paying attention.

Counterpoint: Donald Trump is president

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
Gotta agree with the "there will always be jobs" sentiment. I mean, come on, Spacely Sprockets? Cogswell Cogs?

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May 27, 2004



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Mr. Flunchy posted:

Not necessarily.

https://www.theguardian.com/careers/2016/may/11/robot-jobs-automated-work

The only jobs that don't look automatable are ones with a strong social element and potential or actual incels ain't going to do that well.


... welcome to the Incel thread?

Or hand-crafted niche poo poo like selling cumsocks on etsy.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Pick posted:

No, I mean there will always be jobs because we'll make sure there are jobs. Cleaning litter, gardening, whatever. You can't govern if people are paying attention.

But most people aren't going to be paying attention. They'll be jacking off all day to VR ultraporn, playing hyper-real MMOs and moaning about how real women are sluts online.

Why bother paying some squishy, moaning fleshsack to clean litter when you can buy a couple of these (or their nextgen children) that'll work 24/7 and don't need paying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYqRpUzDnwU

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here


jesus was such a loving Chad.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Mr. Flunchy posted:

But most people aren't going to be paying attention. They'll be jacking off all day to VR ultraporn, playing hyper-real MMOs and moaning about how real women are sluts online.

Why bother paying some squishy, moaning fleshsack to clean litter when you can buy a couple of these (or their nextgen children) that'll work 24/7 and don't need paying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYqRpUzDnwU

Yeah, there's definitely a facet of modern economic alienation that permeates our culture, and happens to manifest itself in different unhealthy ways (incels, alt-right, superhero movies, etc.). Society should be structured in such a way that engages almost everyone, but lol if you think modern capitalism and its conservative allies will allow anything that costs money.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

The entire feminist movement exist only for one thing: To make it easier for girls to gently caress Chad. (self.Incels)

That's its entire purpose. The entire movement is based on how best to gently caress Chad.

quote:

Oh look boys a delightful cuck appears on our humble subreddit, what a pleasant surprise. (Note the beta male username and condescending,passive, timid, feminine way in which he speaks. We've got ourselves a real good one here. Very typical of the common reddit cuck species.) Now cuck, might I ask what sub you're visiting from? How are you today? (Don't make any sudden movements, we don't want to frighten the cuck, let me handle this)

Now you say feminism is in part a result of women becoming "sick of being swindled by Chads". See, cuck, I find that very interesting. I have a close friend who specifically dates feminist women, and he is a Chad. He has multiple women he is seeing at once, and yes most of them identify as feminists. These women allow him to do anything to them. They don't discuss feminism around him. He doesn't allow it. They know he's seeing multiple women. They still worship him. He sends videos of these women vacuuming his apartment naked, cooking him dinner naked, tied up and gagged, even pouring urine on themselves if you could believe that! Isn't that obsurd, cuck? Things you would never even think a strong, feminist woman would allow done to her.

I could go on forever, but I'd destroy you and I'd like you to stay around for longer. Please enjoy your stay cuck, it's always delightful to have your kind visit us!

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010


Another one for the "poo poo that never happened" pile.

i like that
May 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

chumbler posted:

Another one for the "poo poo that never happened" pile.
I'm not much of a porn watcher. Is piss play that common in mainstream stuff for incels to think that's what typical sex is like? Or is this some sort of psychological defense (women don't want love and kindness, it's their nature to desire be brutalized by alphas despite what they say etc). I thought it belonged in a fetish category.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

i like that posted:

I'm not much of a porn watcher. Is piss play that common in mainstream stuff for incels to think that's what typical sex is like? Or is this some sort of psychological defense (women don't want love and kindness, it's their nature to desire be brutalized by alphas despite what they say etc). I thought it belonged in a fetish category.

Sadly, totally the latter.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


i like that posted:

I'm not much of a porn watcher. Is piss play that common in mainstream stuff for incels to think that's what typical sex is like? Or is this some sort of psychological defense (women don't want love and kindness, it's their nature to desire be brutalized by alphas despite what they say etc). I thought it belonged in a fetish category.

I think it's the latter. Until the pee tape gets released, then Christian conservatives will bring watersports into the mainstream

CowboyAndy
Aug 7, 2012

Mr. Flunchy posted:

But most people aren't going to be paying attention. They'll be jacking off all day to VR ultraporn, playing hyper-real MMOs and moaning about how real women are sluts online.

Post-work, or post-job, society is a real issue we need to discuss. We've been losing middle class jobs for year due to outsourcing, and now even McJobs are getting automated. Some states are trying to set 'living wages' for jobs, but companies instead cut their workers hours to make up the difference. Either way, what work will people do in the future.

We do need to start discussing what we'll do with people in America who can't find work. And yes, I'm sure most Incels aren't looking for jobs because sadbrains, but what about regular every day people?

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
It seems super premature to worry about automation stealing jobs. Maybe I'm missing something, but most forms of automation I've seen either are replacing really, really simple jobs or are proof of concepts that won't be ready for years or maybe even decades. And even when they replace simple jobs, people still sometimes reject it even if it might be a cheaper and faster solution.

The one that seems most popular is replacing cashiers with touch screens and even that is sometimes rejected by customers themselves. Remember self checkout lanes? They're in every store now but they still haven't replaced cashiers because their still less convenient then the human cashiers if you aren't checking out just a few groceries. And even there, its not completely automated as someone still needs to be there to monitor the customers and help them out.

Or even in restaurants, some still opt for human cashiers and waiters because some of the customers still prefer that over a touch screen.

Or support centers, people bitch about getting support from a machine, to the point where companies advertise that they won't do that. And that's despite huge advances in Ai and voice recognition.

Just because it's remotely possible to automate a job doesn't mean customers will accept it. So I really don't think our generation or even the next will need to worry about automation replacing a significant amount of jobs.

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

i like that posted:

I'm not much of a porn watcher. Is piss play that common in mainstream stuff for incels to think that's what typical sex is like? Or is this some sort of psychological defense (women don't want love and kindness, it's their nature to desire be brutalized by alphas despite what they say etc). I thought it belonged in a fetish category.

You're asking whether the poo poo incels think reflects reality here.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Within the next ten years at a conservative estimate all the long haul trucking in the US will be automated. That's something like four million jobs right there.

And while the government can make jobs, it does not necessarily do so. Come on son, the incel thread perquisite includes Keynes!

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Literally A Person posted:

This post and it's responses, though really disgusting, explain this whole incel thing so much better than anyone else could.

These incels need a Chad so bad.

They couldn't possibly hate women this much if they were gay.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Time was you'd stick your useless Incel types on a factory production line and have them screwing on toothpaste caps or gutting fish or whatever all day. Keeps them busy, out of the way and should give them rudimentary social skills (even if it's just post-work beers or whatever). Even Jeffrey Dahmer had a job at a chocolate factory.*

But even now a tonne of those jobs are automated or overseas and these useless incel types have nowhere to go and get worse and worse and there's going to be more and more of them each year. If you have a child today in the US there's a good chance you're cradling a future Incel.

Be afraid of the coming Incel planet people!

* edit in retrospect this may not be the best example

Necrothatcher fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 20, 2017

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

poisonpill posted:

Within the next ten years at a conservative estimate all the long haul trucking in the US will be automated. That's something like four million jobs right there.

And while the government can make jobs, it does not necessarily do so. Come on son, the incel thread perquisite includes Keynes!

That seems like a really optimistic time frame and even then, I could still see companies placing people behind the wheel of automated trucks just in case there's a situation the designers of the automated system didn't anticipate

CowboyAndy
Aug 7, 2012

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Time was you'd stick your useless Incel types on a factory production line and have them screwing on toothpaste caps or gutting fish or whatever all day. Keeps them busy, out of the way and should give them rudimentary social skills (even if it's just post-work beers or whatever). Even Jeffrey Dahmer had a job at a chocolate factory.

But even now a tonne of those jobs are automated or overseas and these useless incel types have nowhere to go and get worse and worse and there's going to be more and more of them each year. If you have a child today in the US there's a good chance you're cradling a future Incel.

Be afraid of the coming Incel planet people!

And those are the jobs that we are losing first. I know simple jobs like this don't seem important, but let's be honest: not everyone is born a genius. Some people do boring factory jobs because that's all they can do. With less working class jobs available, what will people do? Not everyone can afford higher education, or are smart enough to get a degree, certificate, or whatever.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Look at the numbers: the cost of drivers is the biggest expense for freight, the technology will be available within three to five years, and rotating out these trucks will cost a fraction of a year's salaries.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

poisonpill posted:

Look at the numbers: the cost of drivers is the biggest expense for freight, the technology will be available within three to five years, and rotating out these trucks will cost a fraction of a year's salaries.

lmao

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

poisonpill posted:

Look at the numbers: the cost of drivers is the biggest expense for freight, the technology will be available within three to five years, and rotating out these trucks will cost a fraction of a year's salaries.

Um, you seem to be forgetting the toughest labor union in the US. You know, teamsters.

That is, unions will keep automation in that regard at bay for a good long time.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


The technology is close. Labor unions, yeah, that's a real barrier.

Maybe incles should form a union

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

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My Linux Rig posted:

It seems super premature to worry about automation stealing jobs. Maybe I'm missing something, but most forms of automation I've seen either are replacing really, really simple jobs or are proof of concepts that won't be ready for years or maybe even decades. And even when they replace simple jobs, people still sometimes reject it even if it might be a cheaper and faster solution.

The one that seems most popular is replacing cashiers with touch screens and even that is sometimes rejected by customers themselves. Remember self checkout lanes? They're in every store now but they still haven't replaced cashiers because their still less convenient then the human cashiers if you aren't checking out just a few groceries. And even there, its not completely automated as someone still needs to be there to monitor the customers and help them out.

Or even in restaurants, some still opt for human cashiers and waiters because some of the customers still prefer that over a touch screen.

Or support centers, people bitch about getting support from a machine, to the point where companies advertise that they won't do that. And that's despite huge advances in Ai and voice recognition.

Just because it's remotely possible to automate a job doesn't mean customers will accept it. So I really don't think our generation or even the next will need to worry about automation replacing a significant amount of jobs.

The panic isn't about customer service as much as it is about manufacturing. There are thousands of formerly human-performed jobs that are totally replaced by machines in manufacturing.

Replacing assembly line workers with robots in the auto industry famously resulted in countless layoffs, for example.

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

poisonpill posted:

The technology is close. Labor unions, yeah, that's a real barrier.

Maybe incles should form a union

To collectively bargain with women? Or Chads?

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poisonpill posted:

Within the next ten years at a conservative estimate all the long haul trucking in the US will be automated. That's something like four million jobs right there.

And while the government can make jobs, it does not necessarily do so. Come on son, the incel thread perquisite includes Keynes!

Ten years is the conservative estimate? I find that a little hard to believe. What's the idealistic one?

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Biscuit Hider

poisonpill posted:

The technology is close. Labor unions, yeah, that's a real barrier.

Maybe incles should form a union

You can literally trap a self driving car with a thin circle of salt. The tech has a ways to go before its industry ready.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Literally A Person posted:

To collectively bargain with women? Or Chads?

I think Chads would be the scabs in this scenario?



fruit on the bottom posted:

Ten years is the conservative estimate? I find that a little hard to believe. What's the idealistic one?
OK I'm done with this I don't care

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-automated-trucks-labor-20160924/
In the next decade
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/29/499867685/self-driving-trucks
Ten to twenty years
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/16/self-driving-trucks-automation-jobs-trucking-industry
Five to ten years

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Mr. Flunchy posted:

If you have a child today in the US there's a good chance you're cradling a future Incel.

Be afraid of the coming Incel planet people!

* edit in retrospect this may not be the best example

I've got three kids (so far) and it's really easy for them to be quite happy and socialized if you, as a parent, are willing to let them develop.

I just let them have friends over often (or go over to friends houses), and have them play on sports teams from a young age. Yeah, it's a bit inconvenient to take them everywhere, but it's only a few more years before I can make my oldest do that.

If anything I'd say the helicopter parenting, or the parenting where you don't let your child ever deal with any adversity, is more damaging.

I coach kids sports, and work with a kids program too. There's more than one kid who's mom follows them around to everything, never leaving them alone. Literally standing with them and helping them do everything (during games too). If the kid drops the ball, mom picks it up for them. If the kid misses, the mom makes us let the kid try again (even though no other kid gets to). And GOD HELP YOU if another child defeats their child in a "competition".

I've seen those kids grow up to be the most entitled, crybaby, little assholes you've ever met.

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Biscuit Hider
You don't have to get all pissy about it lol, ten to twenty years sounds about right to me

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

fruit on the bottom posted:

Ten years is the conservative estimate? I find that a little hard to believe. What's the idealistic one?

Teleportation within the next hour.

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


fruit on the bottom posted:

Ten years is the conservative estimate? I find that a little hard to believe. What's the idealistic one?

The future is now, old man.

https://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/new-audi-a8-saloon-features-autonomous-tech

quote:

Driving aids available for the new Audi A8 include various autonomous features. One part of this tech is called traffic jam pilot, and with it the A8 can start, accelerate, steer and brake on major roads where a physical barrier separates the two carriageways at speeds of up to 37mph.

Other parts of the A8’s autonomous tech include parking pilot and garage pilot, which allow the A8 to autonomously steer itself in and out of parking spaces and garages. The driver can activate these parking functions either in the car or outside the car using a smartphone app. The A8’s 360-degree cameras allow the driver to easily monitor the car’s progress parking via the smartphone app.

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