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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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Blind Pineapple posted:By most measurements, KAT was considerably better than Paul George last year, as was Jimmy Butler. Not disputing that Jimmy was better than PG but I feel like Jimmy isn't that good at offense. He's too inconsistent and takes a lot of really bad shots. Maybe that's just cus he was in the Hoiberg system with a ton of poo poo around him this year.
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Jul 20, 2017 15:09
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Wiggins & Wolves working on a 5/148m Extension http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2722742-andrew-wiggins-timberwolves-negotiating-5-year-contract-extension I maybe would have rather played out this year and see how everything looks but he'd probably end up getting that money anyway so it's fine.
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Jul 20, 2017 15:27
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Doltos posted:Not disputing that Jimmy was better than PG but I feel like Jimmy isn't that good at offense. He's too inconsistent and takes a lot of really bad shots. Maybe that's just cus he was in the Hoiberg system with a ton of poo poo around him this year. He's only slightly behind George in TS% in this high-usage player list from last season. They also have similar minutes but Butler has 166 more assists which indicates he's more of a playmaker for his team, as well. And even with that increased load for Jimmy, he has 60 fewer turnovers. I think Butler is a better offensive player than George. http://bkref.com/tiny/B9xj4
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Jul 20, 2017 15:35
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Kibner posted:He's only slightly behind George in TS% in this high-usage player list from last season. They also have similar minutes but Butler has 166 more assists which indicates he's more of a playmaker for his team, as well. And even with that increased load for Jimmy, he has 60 fewer turnovers. I think Butler is a better offensive player than George. You ignored the first sentence of my post
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Jul 20, 2017 15:36
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I posted this in the GM thread, but I am kinda confused as to the backlash against Paul George. I am not responding to anyone in particular in this thread, but for people who think PG is overrated: PG had a 28+% usage on 58%+ TS% while playing solid defense. He shot almost 40% from 3pt on over 6 per game and shot almost 90% from the line. The Pacers won 42 games with him, and without him I would guess they would be under 30. Are people who don't like him just looking at Winshare or something? Because it's penalizing him for being on a bad defensive team but I don't think that's his fault. if he had an actual rim protector his WS/48 probably would have been approaching .200.
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Jul 20, 2017 15:45
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Lockback posted:Wiggins & Wolves working on a 5/148m Extension Is it just me or does that seem to be a lot for him? I didn't get a chance to watch the Wolves much last year.
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Jul 20, 2017 15:52
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He's still a flawed player but he's scoring 23.6 a game pretty efficiently at 21 years old and has the capacity to improve on both ends
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Jul 20, 2017 15:53
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https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/888033983786778627 What's a Damien Wilkins?
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Jul 20, 2017 15:55
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pubic works project posted:Is it just me or does that seem to be a lot for him? I didn't get a chance to watch the Wolves much last year. He can create his own offense really well, especially for a player that young. He's been pretty durable and he has every physical tool you can want. If the Wolves didn't offer a mini-max a whole bunch of other teams would have, so I am not too worried about the amount. I am not 100% sure what he will look like in the new-look Wolves offense, but he has lots of value coming off his rookie contract.
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Jul 20, 2017 15:57
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Doltos posted:You ignored the first sentence of my post It seemed like in your first post like you were ok with Butler being better overall but not as good on offense as George. Regardless, Butler is still real good at offense.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:00
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Lockback posted:I posted this in the GM thread, but I am kinda confused as to the backlash against Paul George. I am not responding to anyone in particular in this thread, but for people who think PG is overrated: He's still a top player. The only thing that really worries me about his offense is his high turnover rate. Especially for someone who doesn't pass much. Kibner fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Jul 20, 2017 16:01
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What's the correlation with reducing usage and turnovers, because it seems like being the #2 guy would reduce that.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:02
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pubic works project posted:Is it just me or does that seem to be a lot for him? I didn't get a chance to watch the Wolves much last year. Like Lockback said, he is fantastic at offense. His problem is being one of the worst defenders in the league even in his third season.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:02
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Tae posted:What's the correlation with reducing usage and turnovers, because it seems like being the #2 guy would reduce that. I dunno, but here is that same list of high usage players but sorted by TOV%. Guys who are lead playmakers/passers tend to have higher TOV%. If you don't do that much playmaking and only score but are high on this list, it's not good. http://bkref.com/tiny/Pze56
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Jul 20, 2017 16:05
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/888033983786778627 Another member of the Wilkins family that is not Dominique
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Jul 20, 2017 16:07
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Kibner posted:Like Lockback said, he is fantastic at offense. His problem is being one of the worst defenders in the league even in his third season. I am not sure if he really is the worst defender or just plays lots of minutes on a bad defensive team. He is definitely a minus defender. But to be fair to him, he's had 3 head coaches in 3 years and each one has had a different defensive scheme, including a radically different one last year with Thibs. This should be a good year to judge if he can really improve because he hasn't had a great opportunity to do that. Eye-test, he looked better as the year went on last year and the Wolves won more games.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:17
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I was rooting for the Bulls but this is close https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/888056394548736004
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Jul 20, 2017 16:23
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Meyers Leonard is putting in the work yall https://twitter.com/MeyersLeonard11/status/887899595606433792 Imagine falling for a Meyers Leonard pump fake, lol
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Jul 20, 2017 16:26
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morestuff posted:I was rooting for the Bulls but this is close Yessssssss
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Jul 20, 2017 16:26
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morestuff posted:I was rooting for the Bulls but this is close
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Jul 20, 2017 16:27
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Not really a bad fit. The system is already built for a scoring point and he can contribute more in limited minutes than their current backup guards.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:31
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What if Derrick Rose was healthy this whole time but pretending to not be back?????
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Jul 20, 2017 16:32
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WhyteRyce posted:What if Derrick Rose was healthy this whole time but pretending to not be back????? the long back con
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Jul 20, 2017 16:33
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/888033983786778627 a 37 year old motherfucker who was a key part of one of the most awful years of Sixers basketball when Doug Collins was trying to set NBA basketball back 20 years
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Jul 20, 2017 16:33
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Finally the Cavs get off their asses and match GSW with their second MVP. Make the deal, it can't possibly go wrong.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:36
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I think that's a no-brainer for the Cavs. LeBron's openly chafed at having to be the backup point guard, and the FO has responded by adding tiny lil Kay Felder, busted rear end Deron Williams, and roasted rear end Jose Calderon to this point. Rose can still excel at sprinting past reserve guards in limited minutes.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:36
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Stevie Lee posted:a 37 year old motherfucker who was a key part of one of the most awful years of Sixers basketball when Doug Collins was trying to set NBA basketball back 20 years The Hornets kept signing him to training camp and D-League deals over the last few years so I assume he has kompromat on Chad Buchanan
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Jul 20, 2017 16:37
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:I think that's a no-brainer for the Cavs. LeBron's openly chafed at having to be the backup point guard, and the FO has responded by adding tiny lil Kay Felder, busted rear end Deron Williams, and roasted rear end Jose Calderon to this point. Rose can still excel at sprinting past reserve guards in limited minutes. does he still have juice left in the tank? I remember Rose being very good a few years a go, then he seemed to become injury plagued.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:40
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just want to brag that i was the only one who guessed Rose to the Cavs on the FA game
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Jul 20, 2017 16:43
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leftist heap posted:Meyers Leonard is putting in the work yall The best was the Blazers retweeting it and then the amount of people who couldn't see it due to being blocked. I really think Meyers' wife searches his name and starts blocking people (it would happen mid-game). I don't think I ever @'d him but it doesn't look like it matters.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:43
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morestuff posted:The Hornets kept signing him to training camp and D-League deals over the last few years so I assume he has kompromat on Chad Buchanan Yeah I just don't understand this signing. I'm assuming for locker room reasons? I just don't get why they don't pursue an actual good veteran wing like Tony Allen if they want a good locker room presence.
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Jul 20, 2017 16:44
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FuzzySkinner posted:does he still have juice left in the tank? His backometry reading last year was inconsistent
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Jul 20, 2017 16:46
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Edit: oh gently caress me
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Jul 20, 2017 16:53
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I'm ready to have not one but two injury prone point guards on the dumb team I like. They already have 3 pgs on the roster though. Hopefully they can keep my adorable son Kay 
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Jul 20, 2017 17:18
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pubic works project posted:Yeah I just don't understand this signing. I'm assuming for locker room reasons? I just don't get why they don't pursue an actual good veteran wing like Tony Allen if they want a good locker room presence. I mean he's the 15th man, but you'd like that to be a very specific role or young guy. He'll probably just get cut when Sumner or Ike come up.
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Jul 20, 2017 17:20
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/888033983786778627 Hes a fella trying to play on every single team in the NBA
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Jul 20, 2017 17:33
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FuzzySkinner posted:does he still have juice left in the tank? He was decent in New York. If his role is "Backup guard, carry a significant offense load with mediocre efficiency to manage how much of a lead we give up with Lebron out" I think he would be fine. I think a 2nd unit featuring him and Kevin Love would be pretty decent. FuzzySkinner posted:I remember Rose being very good a few years a go, then he seemed to become injury plagued. lol, I remember something about the Titanic having a leak?
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Jul 20, 2017 17:43
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https://twitter.com/kevinlove/status/887885503701188608
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Jul 20, 2017 17:44
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https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/888026738818789380 I'd rather bring Rush back and this other bum.
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Jul 20, 2017 17:46
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/DWolfsonKSTP/status/888026738818789380 Brandon Rush was really bad last year. I don't know if it was fit or he is cooked, but he was really bad.
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