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Condiv posted:no, he does Even if he deserves to suffer, brain damage is the stupidest means of inflicting that suffering. It destroys the sense of self, so the John McCain that did all the horrible things that deserve torture and punishment will be gone long before the body of John McCain dies. The one taking most of the suffering will be some random cobbled together personality of flawed memories and total fantasy his broken mind will patch together. It's effectively the same as going up to some blameless homeless person, putting a "John McCain" tag on them, and lighting them on fire.
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JailTrump posted:Didn't he just release a statement saying it was a bad idea to not have a bipartisan bill? yeah, after ahca had already failed. gg on that one, people have been begging him for months to not support this bill Mulva posted:Even if he deserves to suffer, brain damage is the stupidest means of inflicting that suffering. It destroys the sense of self, so the John McCain that did all the horrible things that deserve torture and punishment will be gone long before the body of John McCain dies. The one taking most of the suffering will be some random cobbled together personality of flawed memories and total fantasy his broken mind will patch together. It's effectively the same as going up to some blameless homeless person, putting a "John McCain" tag on them, and lighting them on fire. brain damage does not destroy the sense of self, not for a good deal of time at least. in the meantime he and his family get to enjoy having the things that made him him stolen from him bit by bit by that disease. it's really not a nice way to go Condiv fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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JailTrump posted:I really dislike the "warification" of political language. The aca was 1 vote away from getting a public option. McCain had 1 vote.
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No Butt Stuff posted:MO is slowly being poisoned against the Trump arm of the GOP because Eric Greitens is a turd that's ruining our state faster than previously thought possible. In what way?
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Terror Sweat posted:The aca was 1 vote away from getting a public option. McCain had 1 vote. He's a loving Republican. quote:I think the staffers at the concentration camps used this as their defense during the Nuremburg trials. Lol comparing healthcare law to the extermination of the jews...classy.
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Terror Sweat posted:The aca was 1 vote away from getting a public option. McCain had 1 vote. Yeah, he wouldn't have had to even vote for the bill, if 1 republican had voted for cloture so they didn't have to rely on Lieberman, there would be a public option right now
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Sinteres posted:Yeah once you've decided your political opponents are enemies who deserve death, you're pretty close to signing up for a monstrous authoritarian government that will deliver. gently caress this mindset. Nah, actually, it's entropy killing him and not the state, which is 100% cool in my book.
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Trump: Okay, you can probe my connections to Russia, but just don't look at my finances! Mueller: HaHaHaHaHa.
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JailTrump posted:He's a loving Republican. oh, so it's ok he's totally poo poo then
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Jul 20, 2017 17:43
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JailTrump posted:In what way? Right-to-work, lowered the minimum wage put in place by municipalities, calls special sessions and wastes taxpayer money with them, defunds education, activates the highway patrol to act as enforcers for St Louis suburbs. Everything he does has been slowly poisoning the well. More and more Republicans here are realizing that he is the embodiment of the current party. They may never switch their votes, but they also probably won't vote.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Trump: Okay, you can probe my connections to Russia, but just don't look at my finances! Checkmate Mueller, good luck getting your hands on these super secured tax statements I refuse to release!
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Jul 20, 2017 17:44
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Is the McCain death celebration/debate gonna' be the new derail that comes up every page or two?
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farraday posted:You also read too many spy novels. What do you think even happens in spy novels?
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pocket pool posted:Is the McCain death celebration/debate gonna' be the new derail that comes up every page or two? probably until he dies in early 2018
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I am deeply disturbed by this McCain derail, and find it troubling. No, I won't do anything about it.
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RZA Encryption posted:gently caress this tweet. Moment of decency? "He's not an Arab, he's a good man." What the gently caress? That's not how communication works, he's responding to the larger point she's making. She's saying "he's a shifty foreigner", and his response is indicating that he's an American just like anyone. Anything past that is projection of what you want to hear.
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pocket pool posted:Is the McCain death celebration/debate gonna' be the new derail that comes up every page or two? Yeah. Let's try to make it interesting. If you are in a trolley, and if you leave the train on the tracks, then it's going to run over five people, but if you pull the lever, you're the one who caused John McCain's brain cancer, is it ethical to pull the lever?
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Rigel posted:To be fair, they are not independent events. (Which is why Nate Silver was right, and the other models ultimately proved to be idiotic). In a timeline where we win both Arizona seats, then the odds of holding every Dem seat is a lot better because it probably means some kind of a wave, but its not going to be 100%. There is a chance that we win in the west, but, say Heitkamp still goes down. I'd argue that MT, ND, IN, and MO are all harder to keep than winning NV and AZx2. The other 6 are easier but all hold an independent risk factor of the Democratic candidate being a loving idiot and throwing the race away. I'd say one potential bright side is that top tier GOP candidates may see the writing on the wall and sit 2018 out rather than challenge an incumbent in this climate.
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DandyLion posted:Checkmate Mueller, good luck getting your hands on these super secured tax statements I refuse to release! Seriously though, stay out of my secret offshore accounts.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Trump: Okay, you can probe my connections to Russia, but just don't look at my finances! Mueller gonna go lookin for Trump's "billions" and just pull up to an empty lot in Queens.
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theflyingorc posted:That's not how communication works, he's responding to the larger point she's making. Right, John "I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." McCain would never be racist.
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Bicyclops posted:Yeah. Let's try to make it interesting. If you are in a trolley, and if you leave the train on the tracks, then it's going to run over five people, but if you pull the lever, you're the one who caused John McCain's brain cancer, is it ethical to pull the lever? Is it the Trump family?
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RZA Encryption posted:gently caress this tweet. Moment of decency? "He's not an Arab, he's a good man." What the gently caress? Time for an old classic. 
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theflyingorc posted:That's not how communication works, he's responding to the larger point she's making. I wonder if that moment actually lost him the election and not going after Obama's race and getting the millions of racists who were apparently there up and voting against him like Trump did.
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Sinteres posted:Yeah once you've decided your political opponents are enemies who deserve death, you're pretty close to signing up for a monstrous authoritarian government that will deliver. gently caress this mindset. I wish immediate and violent death on people who walk too slowly in front of me when I'm crossing the street, stick your self-aggrandizing hand-wringing in your ear.
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Trump has brought back coal and some miners are working in a coal mine. There's a rockfall that curshes the legs of one of the miners, and it will be 36 hours until rescue. There are five people in the room, but only enough oxygen for four people to make it 36 hours. You can increase the amount of oxygen, but if you do, then you're the cause of John McCain's brain cancer.
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Piell posted:Right, John "I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." McCain would never be racist. Didn't say he wasn't a racist, but "a-ha, I've logically GOT YOU" when the main thing he was doing was denying a crazy conspiracy theory is stupid, and it isn't how language works, especially for non-prepared remarks.
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BiggerBoat posted:Um...OK...but this is the Trump thread? let's be honest, this is just uspol with a different name
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JailTrump posted:I wonder if that moment actually lost him the election and not going after Obama's race and getting the millions of racists who were apparently there up and voting against him like Trump did. Maybe. 2008 was a different place than 2016 was, I don't know if it would have flown then. The Republicans weren't quite as crazy as they are today, even if they were pretty crazy.
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JailTrump posted:He's a loving Republican. Lmao
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theflyingorc posted:That's not how communication works, he's responding to the larger point she's making. Still not a moment of decency, because he spent the campaign fanning those flames. I remember when it happened. It was a moment of McCain trying to have it both ways, his career-defining trait. Say a bunch of poo poo but never stand up for it. Feldegast42 posted:Time for an old classic. Yep. Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Piell posted:Right, John "I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live." McCain would never be racist. I’d hate them too if 99% of my interaction with them was 6 years of torture. He’s walked back those comments to specify his captors only, but it’s not really different than Grandpa calling Japanese Japs or great grandpa calling Germans Krauts. He adopted an Asian child so I’m going to make the leap that he isn’t that racist.
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Avirosb posted:Ever thought that maybe him crashing that plane and being tortured is what damaged his brain and made him Republican? Huh? He was lovely rear end dickhead long before he was captured by the Vietnamese.
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i hope john mccain experiences a brief period of blissful unawareness before he dies as his mind erodes and he is simultaneously still alive but no longer burdened with being john mccain
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Looks like President Big Boy is nearing his 1,000th tweet since taking office  http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/politics/donald-trump-six-months/index.html
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theflyingorc posted:Maybe. 2008 was a different place than 2016 was, I don't know if it would have flown then. The Republicans weren't quite as crazy as they are today, even if they were pretty crazy. He absolutely did go after Obama's race. He just did it in dog-whistles, instead of open bigotry. That's the difference between 2008 and 2016. It took 8 years of a black president to the take the hood off the GOP.
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A group of wealthy people have hijacked the trolley you are on, and they are trying to load a bomb onto the front of the trolley and drive it into the center of the city, killing millions. They are having trouble with the bomb - some of them feel like it is too explosive, while one says it should have been a nuclear bomb. One of the hijackers continuously expresses concern while he helps to connect the bomb wires and strap it to train. "This is troubling," he says, maverically, while pouring explosive powder into it. After awhile, he shakes his head. "Stop the train for a sec," he says. "My doctor just called and I have brain cancer." Is it ethical to yell "Good riddance, you coward!" as he leaves the train?
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sudo rm -rf posted:let's be honest, this is just uspol with a different name Lets be honest, OJ Simpson doesn't even quality under US Pol.
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Bicyclops posted:A group of wealthy people have hijacked the trolley you are on, and they are trying to load a bomb onto the front of the trolley and drive it into the center of the city, killing millions. They are having trouble with the bomb - some of them feel like it is too explosive, while one says it should have been a nuclear bomb. One of the hijackers continuously expresses concern while he helps to connect the bomb wires and strap it to train. "This is troubling," he says, maverically, while pouring explosive powder into it. After awhile, he shakes his head. "Stop the train for a sec," he says. "My doctor just called and I have brain cancer." Is it ethical to yell "Good riddance, you coward!" as he leaves the train? I feel like in 10 / 20 years (or whenever the revolution comes, assuming we don't die in nuclear fire or something) this is going to be the new hot ethics question we teach kids with.
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