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No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Ghost Crab when?

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Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006
CORRUPTED Thrall

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
Hitler didnt kill cartoons like Garrosh (i may be wrong), way different

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

whalestory posted:

Yea dude i always picked the zergling in starcraft ums maps

They should just add a pack of 6 or 12 zerglings as a hero

This but instead of getting +stats every level you just keep getting more and more zerglings

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Midnightghoul posted:

Grain of salt, but this was the rumored list of heroes from a month ago

Stukov, Garrosh, Kel Thuzad, Firebat, Anna, Junkrat, Alexstrasza.

First two are dead on so far

I'm sure Garrosh will be a Warrior for Warrior fans.

KT and Alexstrasza depend a lot on how they design the kits.

Firebat and Junkrat sound like a lot of fun to me. Throwing some fun stuff around generic flamethrower and grenade launcher guys is enough to make me want to try either of them.

If Ana's execution is anything like her Overwatch character than that seems like a terrible idea to me. I can't imagine anything worse in a MOBA than "your support this game is going to have to land snipes on you to heal you good luck".

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Her special feature will be that you can auto-attack your own teammates to heal them. Or maybe all of her abilities (including auto attack) will heal allies as well as damage enemies that are in range.

The big question for her is whether she'll get nano boost given morales already has exactly that.

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

Now you can nanoboost lucio in hots, too

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Libertine posted:

I'm sure Garrosh will be a Warrior for Warrior fans.

KT and Alexstrasza depend a lot on how they design the kits.

Firebat and Junkrat sound like a lot of fun to me. Throwing some fun stuff around generic flamethrower and grenade launcher guys is enough to make me want to try either of them.

If Ana's execution is anything like her Overwatch character than that seems like a terrible idea to me. I can't imagine anything worse in a MOBA than "your support this game is going to have to land snipes on you to heal you good luck".

After finally figure out what a Firebat is (some Starcraft thing zzz) I imagine he'd be a ranged assassin and I just assume Junkrat will be a ranged specialist. I wonder if his basic attacks would essentially be skill shots or what

Libertine
Jun 21, 2004

When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.
Hopefully the generic Firebat gets branded with the classic "Gui" Montag nod to Bradbury. That would be awesome.

Alternatively the Firebat is designed entirely around the persona of Guy Fieri and just yells quotes from his shows like "WELCOLM TO FLAVORTOWN" while roasting people.

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC

KaoliniteMilkshake posted:

his name is mr firebat and he's the braxis bruiser camp.

No those are Hellbats

They're a mechanical unit Hellion that get an upgrade where they turn into transformers or some poo poo and also become a biological unit somehow

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



AlphaKeny1 posted:

Can't wait for yet another warcraft hero

I know this was just a throwaway comment, but I'm a nerd so I did a thing:



Assuming these leaks are real, this is what we'll see:

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!
So this guy's last name is Hellscream? That owns.

Also, Ana's kit is kind of nuts for this game. Heal, stun, prevent enemy healing while amplifying your own team's.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Power Bottom posted:

I just can't wait for more screams of "ANOTHER WARCRAFT ASSASSIN BLIZZARD YOU LIED TO US".

there's no self-own like a hubris self-own

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Libertine posted:

If Ana's execution is anything like her Overwatch character than that seems like a terrible idea to me. I can't imagine anything worse in a MOBA than "your support this game is going to have to land snipes on you to heal you good luck".

I mean in OW they gave her a very wide margin of error for aiming at teammates, so at least there's that.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Part of me hopes he's a Warrior, but at the same time I think that would piss me off even more than him being an Assassin because his armor is so mind-numbingly impractical. Those pauldrons are probably the stupidest design to come out of Blizzard in the past ten years and he's just BEGGING to be shot in the chest.

Fake edit: Oh jesus I just saw that they extend so far out behind him. How does he walk through his living room? Is that why he turned into Orc Hitler, because he was so pissed off about knocking poo poo over and tripping all the time?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Power Bottom posted:

Part of me hopes he's a Warrior, but at the same time I think that would piss me off even more than him being an Assassin because his armor is so mind-numbingly impractical. Those pauldrons are probably the stupidest design to come out of Blizzard in the past ten years and he's just BEGGING to be shot in the chest.

Garrosh doesn't need armor he's a buff boy

edit: Also in the Siege of Org trailer there's literally a point in the fight between him and Taran Zhu where he gets shot in the chest with a magical burst of energy and Taran Zhu gets shot backwards while Garrosh stands there like an unmovable wall. He even looks down where he gets hit like a mosquito bit him

Gorelab
Dec 26, 2006

One of his ults better be guzzling the Old God juice.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



his other ult had better be The Heckscream

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
Oh man I'm so fuckin' stoked to be the One True Warchief. Back when I dishonored myself by playing League of Legends, I mained Darius and if they just copy/paste Darius' kit, you'll never see me on another char.

Lok'tar Ogar mother fuckers.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Can't wait for Ana's skillshot heal to get blocked by minions / anubs locust

KaoliniteMilkshake
Jul 9, 2010

GenericOverusedName posted:

No those are Hellbats

They're a mechanical unit Hellion that get an upgrade where they turn into transformers or some poo poo and also become a biological unit somehow

You are correct, my brain had just purged their existence from it.

There are also infested hellbats somehow.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Semper Fudge posted:

A lot of insanely bad opinions about my boy Garrosh going on right now

Day 1 purchase for me. I want to smash some fools!

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

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KaoliniteMilkshake posted:

You are correct, my brain had just purged their existence from it.

There are also infested hellbats somehow.

There is a pilot in there.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


garrosh is the warrior class representative in Hearthstone. He's gonna be a warrior.

one of his ults is obviously iron star, the other probably drinking from the heart. abilities will likely be based on the SoO raid.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Really should have done Hanzo.

No auto attack
Q is skillshot that you can charge for more damage like Gazlowe's lightning. You can move very slowly while channeling.
W is his scanner arrow that reveals an area and stealthers.
E is his ricochet arrow that hits an area, spreads damage based on number of targets, hits single targets a max of 3 times.

R would be either:
Super dragon wave of death thing. Slow-moving area denial similar to Battlecruiser but a little faster, upgrade at 20 makes it cross the map. It shows up on the map so you can avoid it. Can hit you multiple times, would do like 250-400 damage a hit, no knockback or anything.

Seeker arrows. In the Brothers video his arrows curve, unlike the game... for this you'd mark a target and for a limited time all your skillshots would curve to hit them, assuming they're generally in correct direction. Can still hit things in the way, but you could do things like curve arrows around a Team Fight to hit someone in the back row. Walls still block them. Upgrade at 20 increases the lock range.

D would be a flip just like Genji's.

Questionable if he has mana or not. Probably would instead have a quiver full of arrows that refills like Genji's shuriken, like 10 arrows that reload in 8s or something, or once you run the quiver dry you can press Q again to burn mana to reload if you don't want to wait, some sort of mechanic like that.


That would be worth playing, and add a neat twist for an Assassin, I think.

AlphaKeny1
Feb 17, 2006

No thanks, I'm fine with hanzo never being in hots.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Took a crash course on Orc Hitler to find out why people call him Orc Hitler.

quote:

Garrosh Hellscream says: But surely you cannot think that those children were born into innocence? They would have grown up and taken arms against us!

wowzers

quote:

Highlord Tirion Fordring says: We cannot win against the Scourge if we continue to war against one another.
Thrall says: Wise words.
Garrosh Hellscream says: Words of a fool, you mean. The Horde will destroy the undead without your aid, human, or that of the pompous king.

so is his only notable character trait that he's a huge rear end in a top hat to everyone, or

Kith fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 20, 2017

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Libertine posted:

Alternatively the Firebat is designed entirely around the persona of Guy Fieri and just yells quotes from his shows like "WELCOLM TO FLAVORTOWN" while roasting people.

I would be beyond okay with this being a legendary skin.

peer
Jan 17, 2004

this is not what I wanted

Power Bottom posted:

so is his only notable character trait that he's a huge rear end in a top hat to everyone, or

I think he was originally written as "reluctant leader follows in footsteps of war hero father while trying to balance honour and traditional orc war-lust" but at some point they switched writers or something and just made him 100% evil instead

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Power Bottom posted:

Took a crash course on Orc Hitler to find out why people call him Orc Hitler.


wowzers


so is his only notable character trait that he's a huge rear end in a top hat to everyone, or

in the cataclysm expansion he was actually growing as a character from that second quote, with one of his notable appearances during questing being him murdering the poo poo out of one of his commanders that basically dropped a small nuke on a non-combatant druid school

one expansion later, he was dropping a large nuke on an entire city.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



peer posted:

I think he was originally written as "reluctant leader follows in footsteps of war hero father while trying to balance honour and traditional orc war-lust" but at some point they switched writers or something and just made him 100% evil instead

The biggest issue is that Thrall completely neglected to mention that his "war hero" father was a big fuckup (and the one that caused the orc race to drink the demon blood in the first place) who only really managed to redeem himself in his death. It was all just a bunch of "yo grom is the orciest orc that ever orced and you should be like your dear old dad, an orc", which basically sent him off the deep end.

Putting him in charge was also dumb as poo poo, and was counseled against by literally everyone Thrall knew, but that's neither here nor there. :v:

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

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Kyrosiris posted:

The biggest issue is that Thrall completely neglected to mention that his "war hero" father was a big fuckup

Literally everyone, Thrall included, mentioned that Grom was a fuckup. Garrosh never listened.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Shadowlyger posted:

Literally everyone, Thrall included, mentioned that Grom was a fuckup. Garrosh never listened.

Maybe I need to go redo those Nagrand quests again, then, because my admittedly hazy memory was basically a bunch of Grom apologia.

Granted, the entire Horde is built on glorifying all the lovely old orcs of the past, so. :v:

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


So any storyline that Garrosh was focused on was written really loving badly, got it.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

peer posted:

I think he was originally written as "reluctant leader follows in footsteps of war hero father while trying to balance honour and traditional orc war-lust" but at some point they switched writers or something and just made him 100% evil instead

even weirder, went through 3 iterations
1. BC era: Reluctant hero/dealing with legacy of hero father who went down a dark path
2. Wrath era: used as a shake up to the horde/alliance being way too buddy buddy. Both Factions are given rear end in a top hat leaders in Garrosh and Varian. Since Garrosh is dethroning popular characters in his ascent, he's given a few more scenes to show he's got a warrior's code of honor and is just hotheaded, not an actual bad guy.
3. The next 3 expansions : New writers take over who have a giant boner for the former alliance warmonger idiot, and now he's a cool good guy. Rather than do the same for Garrosh they go full Orc Hitler and dethrone him/turn him into a villain.

Very little of this is done through in game storytelling, or in anyway follows an arc. It's just "drat, well Varian is cool and good king now. Uh, go read a lovely Knaac novel about how awesome he is if you wanna know why." You see a bunch of wrestling level bizzare face/heel turns. Like Varian stopped being racist hothead and now Jaina is. Sylvanas has a completely new personality every expansion (if she makes an appearance) and so on.

Power Bottom posted:

So any storyline that Garrosh was focused on was written really loving badly, got it.
this but for WoW in general

edit: forgot that CAT did have early on "Well, let's make Garrosh cool too," but it didn't stick, so they just went full orc hitler by the end of the expansion, then kept him as a bad leader (and Varian a good one) through all of Pandaland until the final raids.

Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jul 20, 2017

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Power Bottom posted:

So any storyline that Garrosh was focused on was written really loving badly, got it.

Garrosh was good actually

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Macaluso posted:

Advocating child murder was good actually

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Coolness Averted posted:

Like Varian stopped being racist hothead and now Jaina is.

In fairness, that was because her city got nuked and her former best friend Thrall was like "lol, not my problem, even though I put him in charge".

You can only get backstabbed by a group so many times before you basically say to hell with 'em.

(the common issue here, as you can see, is Thrall :v:)

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Wasn't he talking about Magnataurs lol they're basically livestock

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W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Kyrosiris posted:

Maybe I need to go redo those Nagrand quests again, then, because my admittedly hazy memory was basically a bunch of Grom apologia.

Granted, the entire Horde is built on glorifying all the lovely old orcs of the past, so. :v:

Garrosh's thing in Burning Crusade was that he knew how much of a gently caress-up his dad was and that he'd doomed the Orc race by drinking the demon Flavor-Aid and he was afraid that he was in charge, he'd end up loving things up for the few remaining uncorrupted orcs in Garadar, so he basically spent the entirety of the Nagrand quest chains moping and having a private pity party for himself.

Then eventually Thrall showed up and showed him the cutscene from the end of the Orc campaign in WC3, and Garrosh apparently decided that his dad dying to redeem himself and free the orcs from Mannoroth's control meant he was actually the most awesome loving dude ever, and all his past fuckups were retroactively justified because of that.

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