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Well that is interesting. Zhang Lei might not be the cannon fodder "upper prince" like I thought. (I still really like his weird wheel demon too.) Also, pleased to see Tsubeppa is possibly one of the "good", relatively speaking, princes, and may well take the position of what they wanted Harkenberg to be. I liked her from the moment I saw her, so her actually being decent as far as royalty goes and likely important, between her trying to play games with Tserriednich and this, is neat. Jeez, though. Now I'm wondering who isn't going to be important here.
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I don't know about that; part of being King, from what's been said previously, is making decisions as King and deciding how you claim your victory here. In all honesty I think one of the lesser Princes, like Kacho or Momoze, trying to take the throne for themselves and loving over Tsubeppa as a bigger threat to her victory plan than "nah, gotta kill your little brothers and sisters", in the off chance she were to get that far.
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I'm genuinely surprised that the number of reasonable princes seems to only increase. Even Benjamin is far from what I assumed he'd be. Obviously a lot of this will break down over time and the nen beasts will complicate things for even the super passive princes but it's cool that killing off all the other candidates is really only the plan for like 3 princes. The private armies acting in "self-defense" is also a really interesting layer on everything. I honestly really hated the boat as it was being set up, largely because I really dislike Kurapika, but man this is all super cool to read. I should've known better than to doubt Togashi. Rip Bill though. Never say you won't go down easy in Hunter X Hunter.
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Shimano is MVP. New MC right here edit: Kurapica still has active ET, if the mother is kidnapped, put asleep or whatever, she won't be able to use the stolen ability. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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EGSunBro posted:I'm genuinely surprised that the number of reasonable princes seems to only increase. Even Benjamin is far from what I assumed he'd be. Obviously a lot of this will break down over time and the nen beasts will complicate things for even the super passive princes but it's cool that killing off all the other candidates is really only the plan for like 3 princes. The private armies acting in "self-defense" is also a really interesting layer on everything. Though Ben is really angry, violent and arrogant, he just has an intelligent head on his shoulders. Edit: Also putting the chapter link on the new page. https://imgur.com/a/lEmKi#AT7tx2w MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Edit: Also putting the chapter link on the new page. https://imgur.com/a/lEmKi#AT7tx2w  This was hilarious to me for some reason
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frajaq posted:
I'm curious if she actually can perceive the Beasts or not but has just kept silent or can now see them because of Kurapika's ability. Also, there's a possibility of her dying to a Beast since she's not a Prince and that wheel might be sizing her up. The 3rd Prince is probably a much more careful tactician than the 1st and someone more suited to behind-the-scenes sort of management whereas the 1st is more like a classical general who leads from the front. There'll probably be a sort of coalition led by the 5th depending on how many of the lower princes are interested in just ending the whole thing with little to no bloodshed. Obviously all of the lower prince would consider a tentative alliance before betraying the alliance and moving towards their own ends when the opportunity arises, but that's par for the course.
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Lotta characters in this arc turning out to be deceptively intelligent, which in retrospect I guess we all should've figured, but you know how it goes: you see a certain character design, you think to yourself "Yeah, they're not gonna last." Anyway, it's neat how many princes are turning out to be surprisingly reasonable, but of course it only takes a single fly to spoil the soup. My boy Bill better survive all this though. Dude's a trooper.
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On a tangent, I love Kurapika throwing back the "we are not concerned with your situation" at Tsubeppa's lieutenant. That was a small but satisfying moment, particularly since it got the message across. Also Zhang Lei's guard appointed by a higher queen is named "Slacker", if that translation is correct. Well then. Bad Seafood posted:Lotta characters in this arc turning out to be deceptively intelligent, which in retrospect I guess we all should've figured, but you know how it goes: you see a certain character design, you think to yourself "Yeah, they're not gonna last." Anyway, it's neat how many princes are turning out to be surprisingly reasonable, but of course it only takes a single fly to spoil the soup. Yeah, like I said before I figured Zhang Lei was the most vulnerable of the upper princes, but now he's looking potentially really important. It's interesting.
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It didn't dawn on me till this episode how much better Togashi has gotten at drawing black people. Might is a huge step from Canary, or even the doctor who gave Netero the bomb.
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Roland Jones posted:On a tangent, I love Kurapika throwing back the "we are not concerned with your situation" at Tsubeppa's lieutenant. That was a small but satisfying moment, particularly since it got the message across. Yeah Zhang Lei could be a good ally. He does not know about Nen but is interested. Kurapika and his charges gaining a powerful ally like that could be useful. Plus he apparently is fairly reasonable. And can likely be easily convinced that the baby is not a threat and does not need to die.
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Another plus is his nen beast not suggesting some dark and sinister hobby.
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Bad Seafood posted:Another plus is his nen beast not suggesting some dark and sinister hobby. He is the Sun.
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Bad Seafood posted:Another plus is his nen beast not suggesting some dark and sinister hobby. Religion is dark and sinister in its own way.
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I love his Nen beast the most out of the ones we've seen, really. This big, ornate wheel or plate or something with a weird face in the center and ringed with black flame. That's great. Not sure what it can do (probably something with weird effects rather than anything physical), but it's very neat.
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I mean, say what you want about it, I'd still take that guy over Jun Ito's Giraffe-Necked Predator Bondage Horse.
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Bad Seafood posted:Another plus is his nen beast not suggesting some dark and sinister hobby. 
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Just realized that Emperor time has still not turned off. He is just wearing Contacts right now. So yeah steal chain is pretty costly to Kurapika.
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Bad Seafood posted:I mean, say what you want about it, I'd still take that guy over Jun Ito's Giraffe-Necked Predator Bondage Horse. You forgot snail tongue.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Just realized that Emperor time has still not turned off. He is just wearing Contacts right now. Yep. He's stuck in it until Oito can burn the ability, at the least, if I'm understanding correctly.
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so if kurapika steals an ability he can't activate, he dies of old age. if he gives an ability to someone who doesn't use it for whatever reason, he dies of old age. but then, i guess he would need to have such heavy restrictions to add such a strong power to his preexisting set.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:so if kurapika steals an ability he can't activate, he dies of old age. if he gives an ability to someone who doesn't use it for whatever reason, he dies of old age. but then, i guess he would need to have such heavy restrictions to add such a strong power to his preexisting set. It's why he decided not to steal the last guys ability.
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In the end victory will go to the best Nen beast, Party Ball.
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Blackheart posted:In the end victory will go to the best Nen beast, Party Ball. Instead of open combat, Party Ball compels everyone hostile to its prince to party.
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Hate-Senpai posted:You forgot snail tongue. I wanted you to consciously remember.
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Bad Seafood posted:I didn't forget. You're getting a strongly worded Steam message.
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I am firmly pro-Bill and wish he hadn't said he wouldn't go down easy.Xelkelvos posted:I'm curious if she actually can perceive the Beasts or not but has just kept silent or can now see them because of Kurapika's ability. That's a really good point actually and very possible. I wonder if Zhang Lei's wheel having a plus and minus is a subtle reference to his whole "he is both very kind and very cruel" thing.
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If we take each Nen beast as being either influenced by or straight-up personifications of the Princes themselves my own prediction is that it implies Zhang is incredibly calm and prefers planning and order to chaos (the general design and his actions so far) but when push comes to shove and he gets very desperate/afraid/under threat he won't hesitate to rely on surprise and instinct to pull through. Or that scraggly outline means that he'll fall apart completely if he his ordered plans break down. Who knows, but it'd be pretty fun if the beasts not only showed us the princes strengths but also their weaknesses. Also I think that she can see it via the second-hand Nen ability. She's caught on to the fact that Kurapika is explaining nen for her sake as well as the princes', and she looks real loving nervous there in that one panel her and the beast are together in.
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Yeah I was kind of unclear about what was going on with Oito while she's drinking in that one panel. Can she see the beast now that she has Kurapika's nen dolphin? Is she just feeling its presence? Or is she just nervous from the situation? Also, I've noticed the dark clouds in the background many of the scenes where nen beasts appear. When it first appeared I thought it was Woble's nen beast, but now I'm thinking it might just be for effect, or to represent them feeling the presence of the beasts? Hitlersaurus Christ fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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She was able to see Kurapika's Dolphin, so maybe that had the side effect of letting her use Gyo as long as she has the nen power equipped.
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Pierson posted:If we take each Nen beast as being either influenced by or straight-up personifications of the Princes themselves my own prediction is that it implies Zhang is incredibly calm and prefers planning and order to chaos (the general design and his actions so far) but when push comes to shove and he gets very desperate/afraid/under threat he won't hesitate to rely on surprise and instinct to pull through. Or that scraggly outline means that he'll fall apart completely if he his ordered plans break down. Who knows, but it'd be pretty fun if the beasts not only showed us the princes strengths but also their weaknesses. It actually kinda resembles this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wany%C5%ABd%C5%8D but with religious affectations.
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Yeah, it's basically an ornate wheel; it wasn't clear when we first saw it, but in this page, with the background, it seems like there's space in between the spokes, since we can see the texture there.Xelkelvos posted:It actually kinda resembles this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wany%C5%ABd%C5%8D but with religious affectations. Oh boy, that's a rather ominous thing for it to be. (The crosses don't necessarily mean anything though; remember Chrollo's old coat? This is a Japanese series, after all.)
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Roland Jones posted:Yeah, it's basically an ornate wheel; it wasn't clear when we first saw it, but in this page, with the background, it seems like there's space in between the spokes, since we can see the texture there. It's definitely much more ornate than a cart wheel, but yeah it's a loving spooky monster if it's really based off of the Wanyudo
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Hate-Senpai posted:She was able to see Kurapika's Dolphin, so maybe that had the side effect of letting her use Gyo as long as she has the nen power equipped. Part of this arc is about how people are selectively able to see nen creations like how the Princes can't see their own beasts, and how nobody but Sahir could see the tiny "are you free" beast that was on his shoulder. I don't think Oito can see the Wheel just because she can see Kurapika's dolphin. For all intents and porpoises she's the only one who can see it right now and that is probably the extent of what nen she can see without her aura nodes formally opened. The nen explanation is still for her benefit because Kurapika is using her as his accomplice now and she needs to know what else she's in store for.
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Whats his end game? What kind of nen ability do you think he has? Do you think he homolusts after Ging?
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Brought To You By posted:Part of this arc is about how people are selectively able to see nen creations like how the Princes can't see their own beasts, and how nobody but Sahir could see the tiny "are you free" beast that was on his shoulder. I don't think Oito can see the Wheel just because she can see Kurapika's dolphin. For all intents and porpoises she's the only one who can see it right now and that is probably the extent of what nen she can see without her aura nodes formally opened. Yeah, she doesn't need to see the Wheel in order to feel super nervous there. She overheard the stuff about Nen Beasts already, too, so with that and what Kurapika's saying she probably already knew there's a "monster" in there sizing her up even before Kurapika got to the actual explanation of that for Zhang Lei. On a tangent, nicknames for the Beasts: Benjamin: The Alien. Camilla: The Anemone. Zhang Lei: The Wheel. Tserriednich: The... "Horse". Tsubeppa: The Frog Car, the Lizard Buggy, I don't know but it's great. Tyson: The "Fairies", the Geckos. Luzurus: The Dick-Shark? I don't know what the heck that thing is. Sale-Sale: The Party Ball, the Tumor. Harkenberg: The Bull, the Goat, the Demon. Momoze: The Mouse, the Hamster. Kacho, Fugetsu, Marayam, and Woble's Nen Beasts are all still mysteries meanwhile, other than Woble's exsanguinating the guards who were threats. Someone has a weird dragon-thing, though, from the big reveal of the beasts, another has jellyfish things, and then there's a giant worm... Thing that was hanging from the ceiling. Those three are probably not Woble's, so. Place your bets on who gets what; for some reason the Dragon feels like it's Marayam's to me, but I could be wrong there. Kacho's terrible so I want to give her the Worm, which would leave Fugetsu with the Jellyfish I guess. Could be completely different though; I wasn't betting on Momoze having the Hamster, after all. On a tangent, now that we have more information revealed, all the Nen Beasts that showed up then were, of all things, those of the younger Princes (besides Tyson's Geckos, but those things are constantly being spawned so them infesting the ship makes sense). It's interesting that the younger Princes were the ones whose Beasts all went to check out everyone else's and pick on the baby and whatnot, versus the older ones not showing up there and possibly sticking with their hosts.
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Pariston is sad that Netero died, since he loved the cat and mouse game the two were playing using Association politics. He has now latched onto Ging, because Ging is similarly powerful and influential, so he hopes he can has similar fun.
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Whats his end game? -Having fun -Something related to information gathering -He is problem-sexual
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Roland Jones posted:Tsubeppa: The Frog Car, the Lizard Buggy, I don't know but it's great. The Toad Mobile? Luzurus' beast looks like a giant cicada.
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