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I'm top 500 in the over 40 queue
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Jul 20, 2017 18:06
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Nullsmack posted:I wish they would make a comp mode where you can say you don't want to play with people under a certain age. There'd be a lot of people suddenly born on April 20th, 1969
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Jul 20, 2017 18:09
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Kassoon posted:I'm top 500 in the over 40 queue
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Jul 20, 2017 18:09
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Since we straight up must read everything ever written in blue before stylosa gets to read it out loud for money:Scott Mercer posted:I wanted to clarify some of the Statistic Card rules in question, because there's some misunderstandings about the system. I think everyone already knows this, but this is why even a mediocre zenyatta lights up like a baller for most of the match. Everything he does is ripping at least one anus open at any given moment.
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Jul 20, 2017 19:09
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Ersatz posted:I'm genuinely curious to see age distribution across ranks. Too bad there's no way to get that data. Lets start! I'm 43 and squarely a bronze. I also play on Xbox One.
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Jul 20, 2017 19:26
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wit posted:Since we straight up must read everything ever written in blue before stylosa gets to read it out loud for money: Personally I really enjoyed the patch where they added the kill beep for Zenyatta assists. It's very affirming to get those extra kill beeps when people die who you hadn't even shot at.
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Jul 20, 2017 19:47
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OldNorthBridge posted:Lets start! I'm 43 and squarely a bronze. I also play on Xbox One. I'm 50, bronze and bad at pretty much everything except Torb and Lucioball. 
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Jul 20, 2017 19:50
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Ersatz posted:I'm genuinely curious to see age distribution across ranks. Too bad there's no way to get that data. top 500 is early 20s and it's a bell curve out from there like in absolutely everything else
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Jul 20, 2017 19:57
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Kassoon posted:top 500 is early 20s and it's a bell curve out from there like in absolutely everything else
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Jul 20, 2017 20:01
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But think of all the things you're much better at than a 20-something. Like... doing your taxes.
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Jul 20, 2017 20:05
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Dick Trauma posted:But think of all the things you're much better at than a 20-something. Like... doing your taxes.  ((
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Jul 20, 2017 20:10
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Just use all the weekends you're not spending getting wasted or playing STD Roulette to practice instead!
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Jul 20, 2017 20:15
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Just play winston or mercy then your decrepit aim won't matter. Also spend all your vacation days playing non-stop so you can grind out the 500 matches necessary to rank up in blizzard games
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Jul 20, 2017 20:25
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Kassoon posted:Just play winston or mercy then your decrepit aim won't matter. Also spend all your vacation days playing non-stop so you can grind out the 500 matches necessary to rank up in blizzard games Seriously though, the grind is stupid, and Blizzard should put streaks back in.
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Jul 20, 2017 20:31
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There is definitely a correlation between my age and the fact that my most played characters are Mei, Symmetra, D.Va, and Winston! Honorable mention to Zarya.
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Jul 20, 2017 20:36
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Ersatz posted:Yeah. I complained in the tryhard thread about it taking literally a month to solo queue out of gold despite having 53% and 55% win rates on my two mains, but I learned the valuable lesson from the posters there that it only took so long because I'm mediocre garbage trash. There are streaks, but they seem to only be losing streaks!
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Jul 20, 2017 20:49
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Wildtortilla posted:There are streaks, but they seem to only be losing streaks! I just wanted to be placed faster into games that were actually competitive. Ironically, I'm close to diamond now and my win rate on D.Va is 3% higher than it was when I exited gold. Pharah remains unchanged.
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Jul 20, 2017 20:51
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sometimes I decide to give the tryhard thread a try and then I look at the last page and they're arguing about the gooniest poo poo, so I read the meimeis thread instead. Maybe try that.
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Jul 20, 2017 20:53
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Kassoon posted:sometimes I decide to give the tryhard thread a try and then I look at the last page and they're arguing about the gooniest poo poo, so I read the meimeis thread instead. Maybe try that.
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Jul 20, 2017 20:53
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Ersatz posted:Yeah, given normal psychological biases, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the typical player prefers a grind to a system that rewards win streaks but punishes loss streaks. I would play better if the game just flashed pretty lights at me when I was on a streak tbh. All my worst matches are when I'm not sure if I'm playing worse than usual, as soon as I convince myself I'm doing good, I am, although I can't tolerate many more than say 5-10 games a night.
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Jul 20, 2017 21:06
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Kassoon posted:sometimes I decide to give the tryhard thread a try and then I look at the last page and they're arguing about the gooniest poo poo, so I read the meimeis thread instead. Maybe try that. I can't make heads or tails of what they're even talking about half the time.
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Jul 20, 2017 21:11
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I don't think it's supposed to be a grind. It's supposed to be a "here's how you rate." Getting consistently better at something generally takes a long time, and that is what rating is about. It's not like a poker bankroll with a lot of variance or having a hot run at a craps table. It's not about preference or what feels good. If matching works correctly, moving up in rank should happen at around a 51-55% win rate. That shouldn't change until you plateau and then it should seek 50%.
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Jul 20, 2017 21:16
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_eSports_players Notably, these are almost all established players and not rookies. Maru (SC2) made his debut at 13 years old. https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/highest-earnings-by-age This might even be a more stark contrast. 85% of all esports earnings went to players between the ages of 18-25 and almost 99% of all earnings went to players between the ages 16-29. We do see a slight skew in average earnings for older players-- that peaks closer to 25 years old and doesn't start to fall off as hard until the early 30s. There's a big spike in the 34 year old bracket, and that's pretty much entirely Daigo Umehara, who is solely responsible for 87k of the 100k in that bracket thanks mostly to his 60k prize from 2nd place in the Capcom Cup. There are some weird bits in the data for sure, FGS guys tend to be older than your SC/FPS guys. Korean pros typically retire for their mandatory military service at some point, etc etc. This is partially because the most important attribute for a professional gamer is reaction time and reflexes, which peak much earlier. In traditional sports, physical strength is very important. Physical strength tends to peak in men in the late 20's.
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Jul 20, 2017 21:17
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headcase posted:I don't think it's supposed to be a grind. It's supposed to be a "here's how you rate." for anyone over 30 a grind is like 20 matches. I would guess most people surprised at their rank play maybe a couple matches a day. mmr doesn't really normalize until around 50, and sr/seasons is their grind minigame that takes longer. The only time you can shoot up in rank is with a brand new account. I play hitscan so it wasn't so bad (and had a lot of cs experience), but I would imagine tanks/healers have a grindier time of it. It's also fun as gently caress to play dps against bad players, it's probably miserable if you're mercy
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Jul 20, 2017 21:42
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In fairness, there are a number of factors, most notably getting jobs and responsibilities as you get older. Late 20s+ play less and are less likely to grind away on videogames than students. There are lots of near 30 or over 30 people in the top CS teams right now, and not from a lack of competition. That has slowly been destroying the idea that post 25-6 was just sheer decline in gaming. It's just there is legit money in it now. I think the next ten years will certainly see a broader spread of ages than in the past. It will always be a a young person's game, but not as much as was once assumed.
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Jul 20, 2017 21:44
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My point is that "shooting up in rank" is not the point of the game of Overwatch. Winning a match against similar opponents is the point. Your rank just tells you where you are. It should be pretty consistent, and hopefully you get better at the game over time and it will go up slowly. I'm not saying it really works this well all the time, but I think it's the intention. Edit: I guess people have an assumption that "my ranking is obviously too low, and the game is making me grind to get the number to where it should be" headcase fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Jul 20, 2017 21:48
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headcase posted:My point is that "shooting up in rank" is not the point of the game of Overwatch. Winning a match against similar opponents is the point. Your rank just tells you where you are. It should be pretty consistent, and hopefully you get better at the game over time and it will go up slowly.
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Jul 20, 2017 22:01
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I had a really odd experience just now: my quickplay team listened to me. We were playing KOTH Numbani, and during the first round I noticed that they were all strung out around the map in their own little 1v1s. So in the space between rounds, I told them to not let themselves get drawn into side fights; "if you can't see the point you're probably in the wrong place." I don't know how good that advice actually is, but for the next two rounds they parked their asses on the point and didn't let go; we won the second round handily and lost the third 99-99 because their D.va and Junkrat got well-timed ults and cleared us out. So, you know. Sometimes talking works. 
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Jul 20, 2017 22:08
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Ersatz posted:Yeah, my issue is that I want to be playing against similar opponents, but constraints on my time for gaming meant that I spent a really stupid amount of time 1000+ SR below my previous peak (I hit a bad loss streak last season immediately before they killed the streak multiplier). that happened to my wife as well when she decided to play dps instead of heals for 20 ill-fated games and meteor striked to bronze from plat. I ended up smurfing to get her out quickly, it still took like 40 matches but they were easy at least. I told her it would happen too v  v
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Jul 20, 2017 22:14
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Jeza posted:In fairness, there are a number of factors, most notably getting jobs and responsibilities as you get older. Late 20s+ play less and are less likely to grind away on videogames than students. I know the core of VP is around 30, as is f0rest, but NiP and VP have been underwhelming as of late. Using the HLTV rankings and the arbitrary cutoff of 27 years old (my age), we have GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, karrigan, cajunb, hazed, Edward, and jdm64. Of those 7, 5 are 27 years old and 2 are 29. There are 4 players at PGL who are 30 or older. TaZ and NEO from VP, gob b from BIG and B1ad3 from flipsid3. I don't know why gob b is suddenly doing okay now, but he's an IGL. Both him and B1ad3 are in the conversation for worst active professional player, but both are competent IGLs, if I recall correctly. My theory on the VP guys is that poles don't age the same way normal humans do. The Blue Caboose fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jul 20, 2017 |
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Jul 20, 2017 22:40
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The Blue Caboose posted:I know the core of VP is around 30, as is f0rest, but NiP and VP have been underwhelming as of late. Using the HLTV rankings and the arbitrary cutoff of 27 years old (my age), we have GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, karrigan, cajunb, hazed, Edward, and jdm64. Of those 7, 5 are 27 years old and 2 are 29. I understood none of that. Man I'm old
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Jul 20, 2017 23:21
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The Blue Caboose posted:I know the core of VP is around 30, as is f0rest, but NiP and VP have been underwhelming as of late. Using the HLTV rankings and the arbitrary cutoff of 27 years old (my age), we have GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, karrigan, cajunb, hazed, Edward, and jdm64. Of those 7, 5 are 27 years old and 2 are 29. Don't forget Gambit. Zeus and Dosia are 29, and AdreN is 27. You've also got markeloff and chrisJ (29, 27). This is for sure the 'oldest player' Major in history. The actual average of the teams in the playoffs must be nearly 25. Many of the teams with younger talent were eliminated by oldies. There are a tonne of extremely good players knocking on the door of 27 too. I wouldn't normalise it. Having a single player aged 30 in the premier tournaments, let alone actually competing for the win, would have been pretty much unheard of 4-5 years ago. In many ways being 25-6 back then made you like a super veteran, people generally retired to real life before then. And it's not a dying game a top end or anything. CS has never been more competitive than it is now. Amazing teams fail to get into the Major, pretty much the full 16 slots are stacked. Vega Squadron was probably the only 'dud'. Dignitas, Heroic, EnvyUs, NiP, Hellraisers, GODSENT, CLG, Liquid, OpTic could all have made it. Among those names you've got RpK, MODDI, Snappi, ANGE1, Cutler, seangares, fox etc. In fact if any of the those teams have anything in common, it's that their average age is lower. e: I'll stop bringing CS into the OW thread 
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Jul 20, 2017 23:28
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AceClown posted:I understood none of that.
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Jul 20, 2017 23:33
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Loss streaks are out too, I've had some pretty long loss streaks recently and not had higher than normal SR loss for each game. It was really miserable to lose 50+ SR when you were on tilt so I'm glad that's gone.
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Jul 20, 2017 23:34
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AceClown posted:I understood none of that. I was reading all that and thinking to myself "how the gently caress is anyone with a name like k1LL-M45T3rrr over 10, let alone 30"
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Jul 20, 2017 23:40
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wit posted:I was reading all that and thinking to myself "how the gently caress is anyone with a name like k1LL-M45T3rrr over 10, let alone 30" you make a name when you're a kid and it sticks I guess tho I will never understand why anyone would make that kind of name at any age. even when I was a kid I thought that was lame
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Jul 21, 2017 00:10
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Haven't played Overwatch in a while so I did some quick matches and felt good so I qued for a comp game and lol at the other team accusing me of cheating down in sliver league. The key to countering Phara is to look up. It's odd. People either think I cheat or am a low account of a high tier player when I have a good game. I suppose it helps them cope with getting stomped.
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Jul 21, 2017 00:39
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Manatee Cannon posted:you make a name when you're a kid and it sticks I guess It was a thing back when AOL H4X0RS were around. Always thought it was because irc networks could only allow 1 person called Mr_Skull_Death_Cool_Ice and the other 4000 people had to improvise with their discount vanity plate versions.
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Jul 21, 2017 01:28
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that is one reason for why you get misspellings but I never understood it. if a name I wanted was taken, I just tried to come up with another name
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Jul 21, 2017 01:31
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Luckily Blizzard supports multiple people with same name. We all can be Kill-masters we want to be!
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