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joehonkie
Jan 12, 2006

I'm a member of STARS.
I love the Ballad of Halo Jones, although it ends kind of abruptly. Also Skizz should be out by now and that's like an awesome British take on the ET story.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

So I just ordered all of Marshal Law and Nemisis: The Warlock and read through all of them in one day. Absolutly loving it. Does anybody have a good reccomendation on other good 200AD / british as gently caress sci fi comics? I've allready got a lot of Judge Dredd.

Joke answer: Axel Pressbutton.

Fat_Cow
Dec 12, 2009

Every time I yank a jawbone from a skull and ram it into an eyesocket, I know I'm building a better future.

I wanna read some Agent Venom, but have never read much comics besides Transmetropolitan. Where do I start?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Fat_Cow posted:

I wanna read some Agent Venom, but have never read much comics besides Transmetropolitan. Where do I start?

Start here, go here and end here. The rest of his appearances aren't really worth it, in my opinion. Especially Cullen Bunn's stupid run.

You don't really need a ton of backstory. The gist is, Flash Thompson used to be a jock who hated Peter Parker but loved Spider-man, then he went off to VietnamAfghanistan, and when he came back he mended fences with Peter Parker. Then he went back into service and got his legs blown the gently caress off.

I'm gonna guess you don't need a primer on who Venom was. Suffice it to say the government got a hold of the symbiote.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jul 9, 2017

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Comixology has a 50% off sale on Dark Horse and I've always been curious about those various Omnibiiiii they sell. I bought the Star Wars ones a long time ago but have always been curious about the other various books, like Aliens or X or Ghost or whatever. Are any of them any good, particularly the Alien books?

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Just get this one https://www.comixology.com/The-Mask-Omnibus-Vol-1/digital-comic/234333

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
I am completely new to comics, though I have your usual familiarity with the characters due to movies, games and general cultural knowledge. I like Spider-Man (any Spider-Man, whether it's Peter or Miles or what have you) and clean, stylized art that's easy on the eyes over, like, gritty rippling muscles and a million black-line wrinkles on everyone's face. (No offense to anyone who likes that style, it's just not my preference as far as aesthetics.) Can someone recommend me a good starting point?

Irukandji Syndrome fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jul 21, 2017

Lily Catts
Oct 17, 2012

Show me the way to you
(Heavy Metal)

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

I am completely new to comics, though I have your usual familiarity with the characters due to movies, games and general cultural knowledge. I like Spider-Man (any Spider-Man, whether it's Peter or Miles or what have you) and clean, stylized art that's easy on the eyes over, like, gritty rippling muscles and a million black-line wrinkles on everyone's face. (No offense to anyone who likes that style, it's just not my preference as far as aesthetics.) Can someone recommend me a good starting point?

Spider-Man: Blue might be good for you, if you want to read about him.

As for art you're looking for, I think Chris Samnee fits the description, he's worked on some good comics like Thor: The Mighty Avenger, Daredevil with Mark Waid, and Black Widow (with Waid again).

There is also Gwenpool drawn by Gurihiru.

Mine: Is there a good Hawkman run?

Lily Catts fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Jul 21, 2017

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

I am completely new to comics, though I have your usual familiarity with the characters due to movies, games and general cultural knowledge. I like Spider-Man (any Spider-Man, whether it's Peter or Miles or what have you) and clean, stylized art that's easy on the eyes over, like, gritty rippling muscles and a million black-line wrinkles on everyone's face. (No offense to anyone who likes that style, it's just not my preference as far as aesthetics.) Can someone recommend me a good starting point?

The late(ish) Silver Age of American comics. Spider-Man was at its best when it was drawn by the likes of Romita and Colan.

hadji murad
Apr 18, 2006
All Amazing Spider-man up until around 340.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Schneider Heim posted:

Spider-Man: Blue might be good for you, if you want to read about him.

As for art you're looking for, I think Chris Samnee fits the description, he's worked on some good comics like Thor: The Mighty Avenger, Daredevil with Mark Waid, and Black Widow (with Waid again).

There is also Gwenpool drawn by Gurihiru.

Mine: Is there a good Hawkman run?

Johns' run is supposed to have been good.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I would also recommend getting one or two of the original Spider-Man collections. Along with a lot of unintentionally funny comics, they include many classic villain introductions like The Vulture, Doctor Octopus, and The Lizard.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Ultimate Spiderman is great for new readers.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
What do you like about Spider-Man?

Do you want to read superhero books? There's a lot more than superheroes in comic books. There's also a lot more than DC / Marvel even if you do want to read superheroes.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
I've just always liked the character from what I've seen, how he's kind of an average dude who discovered he has crazy powers and is figuring out what kind of poo poo he can now do with them, rather than this guy who's kind of an untouchable ideal like Superman or a guy who's wrapped up in his own pathos like Batman. His stories seem like they have levity to balance the more dramatic parts.

You don't really think of Superman as loving up and falling on his face, or Batman saying something awkward to the girl he likes. I like how he's relatable and sort of an underdog. Also it helps that I like the designs of most Spider-Man villains. v :v: v

I'll check out some of these recommendations, thank you!

Edit: To clarify, I have read some comics (I loved Sandman, for example), I'm just extremely new to the superhero comic genre in particular, and that is what I was referring to, yeah.

Irukandji Syndrome fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jul 21, 2017

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
I'm gonna recommend Invincible too then. It's more gory but it reminded me a lot of Spider-Man.

I will say the first 100 issues of amazing SM have one big issue: Peter Parker is a bit of a shithead who often deserves what he gets. He's arrogant, petulant, and really self absorbed. USM was better for this.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Schneider Heim posted:

Mine: Is there a good Hawkman run?

Start with the Return of Hawkman in JSA and then pick up Johns' run in Hawkman.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Jordan7hm posted:

I'm gonna recommend Invincible too then. It's more gory but it reminded me a lot of Spider-Man.



I can't remember who said it but someone called it "what if Peter Parker was Superman".

To expand on my Ultimate recommendation, I also started reading comics when I was an adult, and trying to get into stuff with 40 years of contitutity is super daunting. The Ultimate universe was created as a way to retell the mainline stories, but updated to the modern world (in 2000) and also free of continuity. Ultimate Spiderman was the first title in this universe and it ran until the end of the Ultimate universe in 2015. While the Ultimate Universe itself can range from excellent to arguably some of the worst comics ever written, most people agree Ulitmate Spiderman is good, and it's good the whole way through. You get to read it without worrying about missing poo poo due to past continuity, and the dialogue and panel structure is much more accessible to modern tastes.

Ultimates 1 & 2 are also worth reading (it's their version of Avengers) and Ultimate Fantastic Four. I won't vouch for the rest. As a major bonus, the whole thing is on Marvel Unlimited, so if you have a tablet or can stand reading on your computer, you can read literally everything there for the low low price of 10 bucks a month.

Stagger_Lee
Mar 25, 2009
Yeah, I'd definitely recommend Ultimate, with the caveat that turn-of-the-millennium comics can tend to look especially uncool. Clean, though. I haven't actually looked at it recently, and my guess is that my issue is more with the coloring/inking practices than with Bagley.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I actually hate the way Bagley draws faces and other stuff BUT if New Guy is anything like me, he won't have strong artist preferences or even a sense of good vs. bad art as he starts off. I didn't even notice the Greg Land poo poo the first time I read UFF. The second time I read it, many years later, I was like, "How the gently caress did I not notice how bad this was".

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Also great is the Bendis to Brubaker Daredevil runs. You can start with Kevin Smith if you want but don't feel like you have to. The art is great, the stories are great, and they kind of lean in to the whole "Daredevil is Peter Parker as an adult" feel of the character.

And goes without saying that if you want to read Marvel and are good with digital, Marvel Unlimited is the absolute best way to get legal access to these books.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

Bendis' Daredevil is great but Maleev's art is not what I would consider "clean". Like, at least look at what the guy is looking for before throwing out random recommendations. I don't think the tone of it is even what he's looking for, judging from his posts.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Yeah Daredevil is not at all what this person is looking for. I’m going to continue the recommendation of Ultimate Spider-Man. It’s exactly what you want. There also stuff like Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle and Tim Drake Robin comics from DC and the Sam Alexander Nova and Kamala Khan Ms Marvel comics from Marvel that deal with younger heroes that have to balance being a hero with the problems of their real life in the vein of classic Spidey stories but with their own twists.

Invincible isn’t a bad suggestion at all and is quite good for a while but it depends highly on your tolerance for extreme violence and gore which gets really out of hand as the comic goes on. It’s all presented in a bright and shiny clean art style, and it is a deliberate and intended juxtaposition to that style but it really does get to be too much at a certain point.

X-O fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jul 21, 2017

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

I'm reading ultimate Spider-Man right now. Up to issue 13. And am now reading the Team up book.

The art really works for me in USM. And I would really recommend it for a new Spider-Man reader, like myself.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

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I’m reading ultimate Spider-Man right now. Up to issue 13. And am now reading the Team up book.

The art really works for me in USM. And I would really recommend it for a new Spider-Man reader, like myself.
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Ultimate Marvel Team-Up is completely non-essential unless you’re just really a completist as almost all of it except for the Hulk and Lizard stuff is pretty much retconned as never having happened.

It was written before there was any real plan for the Ultimate line and this is just kind of haphazardly throwing random stuff out there that needed to be wiped out to make future books in the line work.

X-O fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Jul 21, 2017

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Irukandji Syndrome posted:

I've just always liked the character from what I've seen, how he's kind of an average dude who discovered he has crazy powers and is figuring out what kind of poo poo he can now do with them, rather than this guy who's kind of an untouchable ideal like Superman or a guy who's wrapped up in his own pathos like Batman. His stories seem like they have levity to balance the more dramatic parts.

I'd say you'd like Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, but, as per the title, she's pretty much even more untouchable than Superman. :v:

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

X-O posted:

Ultimate Marvel Team-Up is completely non-essential unless you’re just really a completist as almost all of it except for the Hulk and Lizard stuff is pretty much retconned as never having happened.

It was written before there was any real plan for the Ultimate line and this is just kind of haphazardly throwing random stuff out there that needed to be wiped out to make future books in the line work.

I thought the end of the Wolverine story was hilarious at least. But yeah they dont seem necessary.

irlZaphod
Mar 26, 2004

Kiss the Joycon to Kiss Zelda

Ultimate Spider-Man is a good shout, but I do think that the original Lee/Ditko/Romita Amazing Spider-Man run is worth reading. I don't think it has aged as badly as other books of its time, and there's just so much great stuff in there, particularly after Romita takes over.

Stagger_Lee
Mar 25, 2009
One of those Team-Up issues is a Spider-man/Daredevil/Punisher that I think doesn't make any sense in the Ultimate universe but has insanely awesome Sienkiewicz stuff.

edit: So close.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I've read a lot of comics with Batman in them, but they're mainly issues of Justice League or Superman in which Batman appears. I've never really been a Batman reader. Therefore, could I ask for some Batman recommendations?

I am obviously aware of Morrison Batman and everything after but that's much bigger and wider than I feel like getting into for the time being. So stuff from before that. Maybe pre-Hush stuff generally.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Wheat Loaf posted:

I've read a lot of comics with Batman in them, but they're mainly issues of Justice League or Superman in which Batman appears. I've never really been a Batman reader. Therefore, could I ask for some Batman recommendations?

I am obviously aware of Morrison Batman and everything after but that's much bigger and wider than I feel like getting into for the time being. So stuff from before that. Maybe pre-Hush stuff generally.

I dunno how far you want to go back but they collect old Batman stories under Tales of the Batman/Legends of the Dark Knight. They're curated based on creator, I got the Len Wein Tales and Norm Breyfogle Legends collections during a sale last year, and I liked them a lot. Very isolated Batman, focused more on crime in Gotham than JL stuff or crossovers.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Get The Black Mirror and Batwoman Elegy. 2010 was the best bat-era.

edit: And as long as you can just accept Dick Grayson as Batman, you don't need to catch up on anything.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 22, 2017

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

On the subject, I was pretty terrible at following storylines when I was a kid, but I enjoyed what I read of Batman No Man's Land. I never finished reading it -- is it worth tracking down some trade paperbacks of that?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Teenage Fansub posted:

Get The Dark Mirror and Batwoman Elegy. 2010 was the best bat-era.

edit: And as long as you can just accept Dick Grayson as Batman, you don't need to catch up on anything.

The Black Mirror.

Edit: Speaking of DickBats, is any of the non-Morrison Batman and Robin good? I really like the interaction between Dick and Damien.

Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jul 22, 2017

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Oops.

In the original series, not really, but the N52 run was great (though that's Bruce.)

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Teenage Fansub posted:

Oops.

In the original series, not really, but the N52 run was great (though that's Bruce.)

That's the Tomasi run, right?

I hope so because I bought all of it during the sale.

Casyl
Feb 19, 2012

Hubbardologist posted:

On the subject, I was pretty terrible at following storylines when I was a kid, but I enjoyed what I read of Batman No Man's Land. I never finished reading it -- is it worth tracking down some trade paperbacks of that?

I liked No Man's Land when I read it. It wasn't great, but it was entertaining enough. My one issue was that it dropped you into the story after Cataclysm or whatever so you don't get any of the lead up. Of course, I read it before the new versions of the lead in stories (Legacy, Cataclysm, a couple volumes of Road to No Man's Land) were released, so you might get more out of it by reading those stories first. But I don't know about the quality of those collections.

Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008
Just wanted to check back in the thread and say that on your glowing recommendations I checked out Ultimate Spider-Man. Except that somehow I accidentally read Ultimate Comics' Spider-Man. :downs: You know, where Miles' story started instead of the start of Peter Parker's reign.

But that's fine, because I ended up loving it and loving the art in it as well. I'm going to have to go back and read from the start of Ultimate Spider-Man next. Thanks, everyone!

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
Also, please don't confuse it with the OTHER Ultimate Spider-man comic, which is the comics adaptation of the cartoon, Ultimate Spider-man, which has nothing to do with the *actual* Ultimate Spider-man comic.

I happen to have already written a reading order for most of Ultimate Spider-man (there are more past this, but there's really only one comic to keep up with after that so it's easier to keep track of), so enjoy.

quote:

USM v1
Ultimatum takes place near the end of v1 but it's unimportant to Spider-man.
Ultimate Enemy is marginally important and takes place some unspecified time after v2 starts but before issue 155
USM v2
Ultimate Fallout 01, 02, 04, 06

Ultimate Comics Spider-man 01-18 (the Miles one that you read)
Spider-Men
Ultimate Comics Spider-man 19-28
Hunger (not important but gives context for Cataclysm)
Cataclysm: Spider-Man (important)
Cataclysm (only a bit important)

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Irukandji Syndrome
Dec 26, 2008

Argue posted:

Also, please don't confuse it with the OTHER Ultimate Spider-man comic, which is the comics adaptation of the cartoon, Ultimate Spider-man, which has nothing to do with the *actual* Ultimate Spider-man comic.

I happen to have already written a reading order for most of Ultimate Spider-man (there are more past this, but there's really only one comic to keep up with after that so it's easier to keep track of), so enjoy.

Thanks!

I shouldn't have read Ultimate Comics Spider-Man first, it spoiled me on the art and USM looks comparatively bad :negative: Still enjoying it though.

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