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Sylvanas and Jaina were so extremely likable in wc3 that I don't think you could turn people against the characters. People would just get annoyed at the writers instead.
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Thrall has always been lovely though.
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Jul 21, 2017 14:42
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No Wave posted:Sylvanas and Jaina were so extremely likable in wc3 that I don't think you could turn people against the characters. People would just get annoyed at the writers instead. I'm not annoyed at the writers at all for Jaina's turn, it felt really natural to me after the poo poo sandwich she was served. She had watched two men she had respected and cared for end up doing incredible damage to the people, one through corruption and another through gross negligence. And Sylvanas has always been self-serving. If anything, her stepping up for the genuine good of the Horde is an unexpected development. WoW has a lot of terribly written characters but I don't think those two or Garrosh would go on a "badly written characters" list Radish posted:Thrall has always been lovely though. Thrall was fine up until WoW, where he just made bad decision after bad decision, culminating in naming Garrosh "Hates the Alliance" Hellscream to Warchief when Zul'Jin and Cairne were both much better, more even choices. Hail Mr. Satan! fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 14:43
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Sylvanas would be better served as some kind of third faction leader since but they couldn't really do that logistically I guess when they made WoW years ago. When she and her crew are performing war crimes on alliance civilians and Good Guy Thrall's response is "lol who cares?" it makes him an even shittier character. Thrall is pretty much defined as a dude that constantly talks up honor but then shrugs when his allies and proteges commit horrible atrocities.frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Thrall was fine up until WoW, where he just made bad decision after bad decision, culminating in naming Garrosh "Hates the Alliance" Hellscream to Warchief when Zul'Jin and Cairne were both much better, more even choices. Yeah it's been a while but he was probably fine in Warcraft 3 when he was busting out and starting his own nation.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:I'm not annoyed at the writers at all for Jaina's turn, it felt really natural to me after the poo poo sandwich she was served. She had watched two men she had respected and cared for end up doing incredible damage to the people, one through corruption and another through gross negligence. Sylvanas is stil a self-serving character, she openly sabotaged the fight against the legion by trying to subjugate a titan demi-dog and making her into a undead babymachine and only greymane had the sense to stop her, while everyone swoons about her the writing is so bad
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Jul 21, 2017 14:53
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Thrall was fine up until WoW, where he just made bad decision after bad decision, culminating in naming Garrosh "Hates the Alliance" Hellscream to Warchief when Zul'Jin and Cairne were both much better, more even choices. I mean, yeah, a corpse not even part of the Horde would still be better than Garrosh, but I think you mean Vol'jin here.
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Jul 21, 2017 14:58
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So I won 5 Loot Chests according to an email but when I log in game they are nowhere to be found. Anyone run into this problem? I'm playing on the NA server. Was there a reason Thrall picked Garrosh as his successor instead of Vol'jin aside from that he's an Orc?
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Thrall was fine while he was Actually Warchief in WoW, it's just when he started going "So the world needs me to save it so I'm totally going to be neutral in this affair. jk the Horde is the only group that matters" that he started being lovely. And in super fairness Vol'jin (Zul'Jin was the Forest Troll guy who is actually in HotS) was Warchief! He just had the shortest reign of any Warchief. Which is a shame because he was cool. Fried Watermelon posted:Was there a reason Thrall picked Garrosh as his successor instead of Vol'jin aside from that he's an Orc? That, plus he's the son of Grom Hellscream (the superior Hellscream) and Thrall thought that made him the best choice. If I remember correctly, Garrosh at the time that Thrall came to him actually said 'pls no things will end badly'. Airspace fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 14:59
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Fried Watermelon posted:So I won 5 Loot Chests according to an email but when I log in game they are nowhere to be found. Anyone run into this problem? I'm playing on the NA server. What are some of the notable legendary skins beyond Azmodunk? I'm not interested in queen of ghosts because I already have cheerleader, and I already have space lord leoric and bucc falstad.
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Jul 21, 2017 15:03
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skipThings posted:I see no one whining about her Just because it doesn't happen in this thread doesn't mean it doesn't happen, she also belongs in the same dumpster Garrosh does. 
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Jul 21, 2017 15:11
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Fried Watermelon posted:So I won 5 Loot Chests according to an email but when I log in game they are nowhere to be found. Anyone run into this problem? I'm playing on the NA server. Same. Received the email that I won 5 chests but nothing showing up in game.
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Jul 21, 2017 15:17
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skipThings posted:Garosh was a flawed character that probably had the most depth in the bunch of bad lore writing of warcraft and he had good and a lot of bad moments, after the whiny fan base decided they didn't like a character that wasn't flat as card board ,the writers made him go "crazy" I mean Garrosh as a villain is even better than what he was before so it worked out. As someone who hates Thrall, I though he was perfectly fine even through Wrath of the Lich King. Once Cata happened it went more and more downhill every expansion with him. The Thrall/Garrosh fight is stupid. Also Vol'jin sucks. Cairne is alright I guess but almost as boring as Vol'jin. Thankfully Vol'jin died. Gallywix should be warchief. Peace.
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Kyrosiris posted:Just because it doesn't happen in this thread doesn't mean it doesn't happen, she also belongs in the same dumpster Garrosh does. Yeah, go check out the WoW forum's Lore thread, it's like a national pastime in there. Which is fair because I totally agree with the above.
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Jul 21, 2017 15:23
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On a different note, this week's brawl is jam-tacular.
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No Wave posted:Same. We'll see what happens. I am so sick of opening upper summer dupes either way so I don't really care (and I already won once anyways) Infested Tychus, Monkey King Samuro, Please Don't Sue Us Games Workshop Muradin, Definitely Not A Transformer Tassadar. Those all fit the old definition of legendary: new model, new voice (not just a filter), new animations, new effects. Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 15:43
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No Wave posted:Same. We'll see what happens. I am so sick of opening upper summer dupes either way so I don't really care (and I already won once anyways) The transformer Tassadar is fantastic, sometimes he yells "Apocalypse... CANCELLED" on a kill
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Jul 21, 2017 15:48
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Monkey King Samuro actually lets me enjoy the character. I didn't like Samuro's original voice because it always seemed like a caricature of a samurai but with Monkey King he gets all silly and the character himself seems to be having fun
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Jul 21, 2017 16:00
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why did Thrall quit being Warchief anyway? I stopped following WoW lore since TBC.
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Paranoid Peanut posted:why did Thrall quit being Warchief anyway? I stopped following WoW lore since TBC. Deathwing makes all the elements go crazy in Cataclysm so Thrall leaves the Horde to keep the world from tearing itself apart with earth magic or something and decides what he really needed in life was a son.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:07
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I think Thrall liked and missed Grom and wanted to help out his son, and hoped some responsibility would straighten him out. Whoops.
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exquisite tea posted:Deathwing makes all the elements go crazy in Cataclysm so Thrall leaves the Horde to keep the world from tearing itself apart with earth magic or something and decides what he really needed in life was a son. oh boyyyyy I totally forgot all about that awful "romance" GOEL
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Jul 21, 2017 16:16
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I like him because "Heh, greetings"
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exquisite tea posted:Deathwing makes all the elements go crazy in Cataclysm so Thrall leaves the Horde to keep the world from tearing itself apart with earth magic or something and decides what he really needed in life was a son. Also didn't Metzen just have a son around that time too?
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Yes lol. God bless Chris Metzen.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:oh boyyyyy I totally forgot all about that awful "romance" I remember they kept trying to push the Go-el name while it was the least subtle Superman ripoff ever and it means something like "savior of everyone" in Hebrew Bless us Green Jesus
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He is more like Green Moses, delivering his people from bondage and getting them across a sea, huh ?
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:The transformer Tassadar is fantastic, sometimes he yells "Apocalypse... CANCELLED" on a kill Executing celebration subroutine... YAY
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Airspace posted:That, plus he's the son of Grom Hellscream (the superior Hellscream) and Thrall thought that made him the best choice. Basically, Thrall had three reasons for choosing Garrosh: 1) He was an orc. Thrall felt his critics among the orcish part of the Horde would never stand for a non-orc being made Warchief. That eliminates Cairne, Vol'jin, Lothemar and Sylvanas by default, not to mention that despite being allied with the Forsaken, there's no way in hell he trusted Sylvanas enough to put her in charge, especially after the Wrathgate. 2) He was young. Thrall felt like if he put Etrigg or Varok Saurfang in charge, it'd be unpopular with the majority of the Horde because they're kinda old and set in their ways, whereas a younger warchief would bring a fresh perspective and new ideas. 3) He was a war hero. The orcs, and most of the rest of the Horde, are a martial society, and more likely to listen to and follow orders from a war hero who's won glory and honor out on the battlefield. Thrall straight up told Cairne before he left that he would have originally picked Dranosh Saurfang, Varok's son, as his first choice... but Dranosh kinda got his rear end killed by trying to Leeroy Jenkins the Lich King at the Wrathgate, which kinda left Garrosh, son of Hellscream, as the only choice by default in Thrall's eyes.
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Garrosh isn't even coming to the PTR for another 10 days.
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W.T. Fits posted:Basically, Thrall had three reasons for choosing Garrosh: Continuing from this, Thrall was hoping that being Warchief would teach Garrosh some patience and responsibility. By the time it became obvious that it really wasn't working, Thrall was in no position to just march in and kick Garrosh out; Thrall had spent the better part of a year keeping the world from imploding into the Maelstrom and Garrosh had taken that time to create a cult of personality around himself, so it wasn't until Garrosh had thoroughly pissed off everybody that they were able to throw in an assault on Orgrimmar in order to kick him out.
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Midnightghoul posted:Garrosh isn't even coming to the PTR for another 10 days. well gently caress if you buy a ticket to China you can play him next week though: https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/888485678698254336
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gently caress garrosh, just one more character to take place of my queen of love and beauty. The most deserving blizzard character to not yet be in Heroes of the Storm. Greed of Diablo 3  
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I have an instinctive negative reaction to Garrosh in any media because he precedes "ironic" fascists crawling out of the woodwork yelling GARROSH DID NOTHING WRONG MAKE AZEROTH GREAT AGAIN but no actually he was just trying to do what was best for His People™ by assassinating political dissidents and purging undesirable races In any case The game needs more non-assassins and non-warcraft heroes. Suggestions: Starcraft: - Science Vessel Support: Grants vision, casts shields, and messes with enemy's shields and max hp - Dragoon/Immortal Ranged Warrior: Good laning and tower pushing, punishes high burst/percentage damage assassins - Viper Support: Disrupts enemy positioning, blinds and drops persistent AoE effects Overwatch: - Junkrat Specialist: Great tower pushing, traps and knockbacks - Ana Support: A toolkit of buffs and debuffs, has a "clip" of shots that can target allies or enemies - Winston Specialist: Clears minions like crazy, survivable and can jump from lane to lane quickly Diablo: - I know nothing about Diablo
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Next character from Diablo is Rakanishu, who is basically a Murky without spells who shits out a lethal lightning storm every time he dies.
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Eraflure posted:Next character from Diablo is Rakanishu, who is basically a Murky without spells who shits out a lethal lightning storm every time he dies. Should be every time he gets hit he shoots out charged bolts that crawl across the ground randomly with D activating them for immediate AoE damage
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If they ever put Rakanishu in the game he has to emit lightning effects and sounds 100% of the time with no breaks.
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Dire Human posted:I have an instinctive negative reaction to Garrosh in any media because he precedes "ironic" fascists crawling out of the woodwork yelling GARROSH DID NOTHING WRONG MAKE AZEROTH GREAT AGAIN but no actually he was just trying to do what was best for His People™ by assassinating political dissidents and purging undesirable races For the science vessel I'd say give him shield matrix, detection/sight wards, emp, and irradiate, with maybe the emp being like Sombras ult but targeted.
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i want Mira Han on a vulture karax is inevitable lady vashj, it's shocking she's not in the game yet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqYf2TogZ1E&t=300s This is delightfully cruel.
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I want the D2 Assassin. She wasn't particularly strong in D2, but she had the widest variety of fun skills. Strikes/Finishers, Traps, Mind Blast, Dragon Flight, Claw mastery/block, Shadow warriors/master, Fade, Burst of Speed, Blade Shield. The only problem is that her strikes/finishers would probably be a bit too similar to Valeera, but they can go in so many directions with her.
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