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BTW, nice racist username you got there "Jewmanji.'
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lol so this is what youre resorting to
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Jul 22, 2017 00:40
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ruddiger posted:So you want the VHS version that you saw as a kid? I'd like a version without the changes made in the theatrical re-release onward. Certainly not poo poo like the Vader "nooooo". I don't think this is particularly ambiguous or confusing. It could be the THX touched up version, it could be something earlier, doesn't much matter to me and I'll happily eat my words if someone who also doesn't want the special editions chimes in saying otherwise.
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Jul 22, 2017 00:41
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This thread has really gone to the Kowakian Monkey Lizards.
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Jul 22, 2017 00:44
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Super Fan posted:Do you have a single original thought in your head? You're just regurgitating poo poo people have been saying for pages. White noise. If you took out the vulgarity that would pass as Threepio dialog to Artoo.
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Jul 22, 2017 00:53
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Tender Bender posted:I'd like a version without the changes made in the theatrical re-release onward. Certainly not poo poo like the Vader "nooooo". I don't think this is particularly ambiguous or confusing. It could be the THX touched up version, it could be something earlier, doesn't much matter to me and I'll happily eat my words if someone who also doesn't want the special editions chimes in saying otherwise. Fullscreen http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-Star-Wa...jsAAOSwX3NZbqkn Widescreen http://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-T...tQAAOSwWF1Za4Jw Pick your poison.
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So here's the situation. Guy wants a high-resolution reproduction of one of the earlier (pre-1997) editions of Star Wars, because the alterations made in 1997 were pretty large and he doesn't like them. Rather than talk about what's good or bad about the particular 1997 changes, and in fact, in preference to a conversation that was already happening about one of them, guy starts to talk about why the movie's director should not have been allowed to put those changes in all post-1997 editions of the movies, why the director is a bad and stupid person, why his opponents in this argument are bad and stupid people, etc. Now we have a chance to go back to talking about the substance of the film, but this internet of ours is afflicted with a contingent of viewers who see them as axiomatically bad and are therefore incapable of a productive conversation about them. (The solution is to download the Despecialized Editions, which are pretty well-done fan reconstructions of an older edition of the films. I've done this. I kind of still prefer the blu-rays because in this cursed future, it's somehow easier to deal with copy-protected physical media than plain files.)
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Jul 22, 2017 00:57
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Super Fan posted:Do you have a single original thought in your head? You're just regurgitating poo poo people have been saying for pages. I agree. But pages? This has been litigated and re-litigated for almost 20 years now. In fact the entire argument has become rote, on both sides. And yet you keep bringing it up and derailing the thread as if it's not "white noise". What would be interesting is to watch you try to reconcile your completely disparate points into something bordering on a coherent argument. RedSpider posted:BTW, nice racist username you got there "Jewmanji.' I'm Jewish. Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 01:14
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Super Fan posted:Do you have a single original thought in your head? You're just regurgitating poo poo people have been saying for pages. White noise. The irony is pretty good
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Jul 22, 2017 01:15
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Jewmanji posted:I agree. But pages? This has been litigated and re-litigated for almost 20 years now. In fact the entire argument has become rote, on both sides. And yet you keep bringing it up and derailing the thread as if it's not "white noise". What would be interesting is to watch you try to reconcile your completely disparate points into something bordering on a coherent argument. Sure. Allow me to clarify my position to placate an abrasive boring dork on the internet.
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Jul 22, 2017 01:38
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I suppose I'm lucky in that the SE releases were my first theater experience with Star Wars. I had watched the VHS releases a lot before then, but the SE marathon at the local theater was my first time seeing it with people other than my family. I do wish that there was an official "original" cut of the movies for people to buy because I can totally see the value in getting some portion of that theater experience back. Wasn't it noted earlier in the thread that they can make those after 2020 if they cut a deal with Fox for ANH due to some legal stuff with the rights?
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Jul 22, 2017 01:46
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gas this loving thread
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Jul 22, 2017 02:10
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I just want Jorge to release the real tapes. The ones where he paid to watch hookers piss on beds that fans once slept in.
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The content of the "I want the official originals to be sold in stores in HD so I can legally buy then right now!!!" thing is a distraction from the form the argument takes: Why are these people petitioning an internet forum, leveling demands at a guy named oval office? It's an expression of utter powerlessness - made even stranger by the fact that the desired object is readily available. If you have an internet connection, you can get a restored copy of Star Wars in HD in like five minutes. So it's not even about that. It's an act of sacrifice, getting God to acknowledge your existence. It's prayer.
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Jul 22, 2017 02:14
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Why are these people petitioning an internet forum, leveling demands at a guy named oval office? This is the best thing you have ever written.
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Jul 22, 2017 02:24
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you know what i love, podracing. its so fast and cool and the video game was awesome
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Jul 22, 2017 02:24
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 love 2 try spinning, a good trick
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Jul 22, 2017 02:25
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:oval office? b careful
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Jul 22, 2017 02:27
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One of the underrated aspects of SMG's gimmick: spelling minor things wrong, for no reason at all. It reminds me of how Lucas likes to call 'em 'laser swords', actually.
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Jul 22, 2017 02:43
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Super Fan posted:an abrasive boring dork on the internet. Super Fan posted:Hayden Christensen loving sucks. Thanks for bringing YouTube-quality discourse to the thread. ruddiger posted:Crazy to think that that's the last "new" thing introduced to the Star Wars universe that wasn't a play on Jedi/Sith, light sabers, or familiar spaceships. I think that's glossing over some pretty interesting stuff in II and III. Kamino? Dooku? To your point I don't think there's a setpiece in II or III that can really compare. But the charms of II and III are more in the character interrelations than whiz-bang action. I guess I concede the point. Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 03:28
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I saw a couple hundred new posts and thought the workprint leaked or something. Carry on.
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Jul 22, 2017 03:35
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Bongo Bill posted:So here's the situation. Guy wants a high-resolution reproduction of one of the earlier (pre-1997) editions of Star Wars, because the alterations made in 1997 were pretty large and he doesn't like them. I have downloaded the Despecialized Editions, I'd just like to have a legitimate copy because in this day and age the convenience of not having to set up my laptop is worth the couple bucks to me. I'm not ranting and raving I'm just really calmly saying I'd like to buy this version of the movie in a modern format. I really don't understand why this is viewed as distressing or argumentative, or why you're acting like the people saying "hey can I buy the original edition, I prefer it" are more disruptive than the half dozen posters who dogpile them for daring to ruin the thread with their insane opinions. Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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I think after IX comes out they'll probably have found a way, licensing-wise, to compile a mega boxset of all 9 (or 12, I guess) films with those versions included. Though I don't think it's a simple process of simply digitizing the reels and putting them to DVD- I think there's quite a lot of restoration work involved in that that requires a lot of man hours and can be quite expensive (not to suggest that Disney can't afford it, but it might not be worthwhile to them).
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Jul 22, 2017 04:02
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Tender Bender posted:I have downloaded the Despecialized Editions, I'd just like to have a legitimate copy because in this day and age the convenience of not having to set up my laptop is worth the couple bucks to me. I'm not ranting and raving I'm just really calmly saying I'd like to buy this version of the movie in a modern format. I really don't understand why this is viewed as distressing or argumentative, or why you're acting like the people saying "hey can I buy the original edition, I prefer it" are more disruptive than the half dozen posters who dogpile them for daring to ruin the thread with their insane opinions. Wanting it isn't weird, even just for convenience. I see a line between "I would like this [media]" and "the man keeping me from this [media] is mentally ill/ it is my right to have [media]." Do you?
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Tender Bender posted:I have downloaded the Despecialized Editions, I'd just like to have a legitimate copy because in this day and age the convenience of not having to set up my laptop is worth the couple bucks to me. I'm not ranting and raving I'm just really calmly saying I'd like to buy this version of the movie in a modern format. I really don't understand why this is viewed as distressing or argumentative, or why you're acting like the people saying "hey can I buy the original edition, I prefer it" are more disruptive than the half dozen posters who dogpile them for daring to ruin the thread with their insane opinions. yo thats cool and all but no joke you should get a blu ray player or tv that can accept usb drives, or maybe setup a plex server or something, if you are a cinema fan its worth it
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blamegame posted:yo thats cool and all but no joke you should get a blu ray player or tv that can accept usb drives, or maybe setup a plex server or something, if you are a cinema fan its worth it Yea I that's a good idea, I am pretty behind on what kind of setup to have because I don't really buy many movies anymore (because none of them are the Star Wars unspecial editions!) homullus posted:Wanting it isn't weird, even just for convenience. I see a line between "I would like this [media]" and "the man keeping me from this [media] is mentally ill/ it is my right to have [media]." Do you? Yea but I also see a middle ground where people can be annoyed at Lucas without making sweeping judgements about his mental state.
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blamegame posted:yo thats cool and all but no joke you should get a blu ray player or tv that can accept usb drives, or maybe setup a plex server or something, if you are a cinema fan its worth it You can use a USBstick and a PS3 to play it despecialized editions.
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With just a mouth, vocal chords, and some water you can recite the extremely despecialized editions.
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I know the ability to get fanedits got harder recently, but how many Fan Edits of Return of the Jedi exist solely to remove/minimize the Ewoks presence in the film?
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Tender Bender posted:Yea I that's a good idea, I am pretty behind on what kind of setup to have because I don't really buy many movies anymore (because none of them are the Star Wars unspecial editions!) Well, that's good, we agree about that. I saw each of the films (except Rogue One) in its initial theatrical release. There are things I don't love in the originals. Some of them were specialed out, some remain. Some things I don't love were also specialed in. I think the revisions at worst break even for a film, but I understand being annoyed -- I liked Lapti Nek, for example, and dislike Jedi Rocks. If I am going to be honest, I am having trouble feeling empathy for those who are really really bothered by these changes though. It's not only that they don't bother me, I can't see how they bother others so much. I've always liked Star Wars -- I was soooo fascinated by Darth Vader from seeing commercials for Star Wars on TV, even before I saw the film -- but it's never been part of my identity. No film has. Seeing Star Wars in the theater is still a very powerful experience for me, la recherche du temps perdu, but then it's done. There is no edit, no practical effect that can bring my childhood back, and I can still experience those involuntary memories with a special edition. Perhaps I need to be more empathetic to those who really are deeply affected by this, on a scale I literally cannot comprehend. I even have an attachment to the Star Wars Holiday Special -- my lone memory of watching it when it aired is the part where Lumpy is in his room, playing with his stuff, and then a stormtrooper comes and rips the head off of his toy bantha . . . and then I think I was sent to bed? Anyway, I don't need to watch the version as it aired on my TV, complete with original commercials, to have that involuntary memory, you know?
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Covok posted:Anyway, which is everyone's favorite aspect of Star Wars? The Force, smugglers and bounty hunters, the rebellion, etc? Those are all good, but John Williams's score is what does it for me. If you mean within the movie universe then probably lightsabers.
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I want a highly fine-tuned podracing game in the spirit of the original (the single level seen in Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (as well as the legacy bonus level based on the first Lego Star Wars version) is probably the closest we'll ever get) Bonus points if we can actually fly other ships through the courses (or fly your podracer through an asteroid field or the Death Star) I should replay LSW at some point
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Covok posted:Anyway, which is everyone's favorite aspect of Star Wars? The Force, smugglers and bounty hunters, the rebellion, etc? Raxivace fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 09:39
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The Despecialized Edition guy has been tinkering around and making even more improvements here and there since he released them. You're gonna wanna download the Special Edition Despecialized Edition to get the new old stuff.
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PostNouveau posted:The Despecialized Edition guy has been tinkering around and making even more improvements here and there since he released them. You're gonna wanna download the Special Edition Despecialized Edition to get the new old stuff.
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Covok posted:Anyway, which is everyone's favorite aspect of Star Wars? The Force, smugglers and bounty hunters, the rebellion, etc?
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Vinylshadow posted:I want a highly fine-tuned podracing game in the spirit of the original (the single level seen in Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (as well as the legacy bonus level based on the first Lego Star Wars version) is probably the closest we'll ever get) Lego Star Wars is the purest way to experience the epic saga. 
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Lord Hydronium posted:Anakin racing against the sunset to find his mother. Clones has tons of these kinds of moments. Anakin and Padme entering the arena is really good too. I think the music really contributes to these moments too. UmOk fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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SleepCousinDeath posted:Lego Star Wars is the purest way to experience the epic saga. Those games really lost something when they started adding in voice acting.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Those games really lost something when they started adding in voice acting. I played some Lego Avengers game and one of the missions Agent Coulson wants you to get rid of snakes on the helicarrier. He says "Colonel Fury is tired of these gosh-darn snakes on this gosh-darn helicarrier. Not sure why they thought referencing a ten year old movie in a childrens game would work.
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