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The idea that goalies have a different aging curve than skaters is a myth bolstered by a really tiny number or outlier cases who happen to be some of the most prominent goalies in history. How well do goalies age? A look at a goalie aging curve. quote:Conclusion: I’m going to use the Linear aging curve going forward in my Hockey Marcels, but no matter which one you use a few points are still clear:
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Jul 22, 2017 14:38
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Due Up: Yaya (due 12:00 PM EST) JoelJoel Jonathan Fisk
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Jul 22, 2017 14:59
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Jordan7hm posted:Patrick Roy came out of the lockout pretty rough and had two mediocre seasons before turning it back around. I think it's a big assumption to make that Rask will be one of the Best Goalies Ever in terms of longevity. I mean he's proven he can perform at an elite level but age catches everyone. Jordan7hm posted:I might buy this argument with another goalie but Andersen has a single season with a save % above 920. His last two seasons, representing 50% of his body of work in the NHL, were barely better than Rask's "mediocre seasons". His other full season was slightly worse. Dude is a .918 goalie after about 5k shots and, other than goalies being voodoo, will probably not be more than that. And Rask posted back to back .915 seasons to Andersen's .919 and .918. When it's just even strength the last two years (and strip Boston's league leading penalty killing) Rask posted a .923 to Andersen's .928 and declined from last year. Of course I say all this now and Rask will come out and blow everything out of the water next year.
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Jul 22, 2017 15:39
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I don't think he's immune to aging, but those two seasons don't fit along any kind of aging curve. They're huge drops from his previous standard of performance. That's why I think they're more likely to be outliers. I think Luongo is probably a reasonable comparison to Rask at the same stage of their careers, though Rask has had higher highs and lower lows.
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Jul 22, 2017 15:46
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It might be too early for prospects but I'm extremely high on the greatest Clayton K. in professional sports, Clayton Keller. Dude scored 1.45 points a game in the NCAA as an 18 year old. Those numbers are better than what Gaudreau did.
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Jul 22, 2017 16:36
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Considering you don't have 3 NHL forwards yet, it might be a bit early to be grabbing 18-year-olds. There are a few D-men that really interest me but defense is boring so I've gotta go with another centre. Derick Brassard. Career low in points and shooting % in his first campaign with Ottawa last year; should bounce back nicely. Versatile, proven centreman that will put up points. He's pretty good in all zone, he can play up and down the lineup, and I'm pretty sure I've even seen him play on the wing. Just barely on the right side of 30 and signed to a reasonable 5 mil for a couple more years.  I, mean, he's no Zibanejad, but he'll do nicely. Benn - Zbad - - Nylander - - Brassard - Ghost Bob
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Jul 22, 2017 18:21
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Jonathan Fisk has until 3:21 PM EST, followed by our good friends Ginette Reno and Furnaceface.
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Jul 22, 2017 18:25
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Also, Kreider is a good pick. Crazy you fools let him slide so far.
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Jul 22, 2017 18:25
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JoelJoel posted:Also, Kreider is a good pick. Crazy you fools let him slide so far. He was on my list for next pick. Guy is almost as good at scoring as injuring top tier goalies.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:15
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JoelJoel posted:Considering you don't have 3 NHL forwards yet, it might be a bit early to be grabbing 18-year-olds. I drafted Keller like I'm drafting for a franchise and not a single season sim. If he's not the best forward prospect right now he's in the top 3 and he's my pick to win the Calder next season.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:40
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JoelJoel posted:Also, Kreider is a good pick. Crazy you fools let him slide so far. Kreider would have been my pick if Schwartz was of the board.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:43
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I was hoping Keller would fall to next cycle, decent pick. I'll make mine presently
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Jul 22, 2017 19:48
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I'll take Tyler Toffoli for his positional flexibility and misleadingly good fancy stats: Hoffman - O'Reilly - X Domi - Toffoli - X X - Doughty Giordano - X t a s t e fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 19:54
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Chris Kreider was in my top-2-or-3 wings but positional scarcity won that pick. Also he violates my "gently caress the Rangers" principle. Due Up: Ginette Reno (Until 4:54 PM) Furnaceface Jordan7hm
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Jul 22, 2017 19:58
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Jonathan Fisk posted:I'll take Tyler Toffoli for his positional flexibility and misleadingly good fancy stats: I don't think a guy who's taken 27 faceoffs in 293 GP is a center or should be used as one, just fyi.
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Jul 22, 2017 20:01
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Yaya posted:It might be too early for prospects but I'm extremely high on the greatest Clayton K. in professional sports, Clayton Keller. I'm not sure I'd really call him a prospect anyway, he was great at the WC and he'll be in Arizona's lineup 100% this year, probably on their #1 PP.
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Jul 22, 2017 20:03
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He's a natural center and was fine in junior 
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Jul 22, 2017 20:06
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Hoffman - RoR - Toffoli is a real good first line at least.
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Jul 22, 2017 20:16
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I plan on moving him there if my ships come in
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Jul 22, 2017 20:17
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Dammit I was gonna take Toffoli and was amazed he kept slipping. I was hoping nobody else noticed him. I have no choice then but to go full homer. Pittsburgh takes Jake Guentzel. e: Guentzel-Giroux-Rakell Horvat Pietrangelo Price
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Jul 22, 2017 20:37
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Yaya posted:I drafted Keller like I'm drafting for a franchise and not a single season sim. If he's not the best forward prospect right now he's in the top 3 and he's my pick to win the Calder next season. Seems weird to plan a franchise around two aging forwards, a second tier goalie, and an unproven 18y/o. But, hey, man, you do you.
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Jul 22, 2017 20:44
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Guentzel is a steal I was really hoping he'd fall. Oh well.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:01
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Ginette Reno posted:Dammit I was gonna take Toffoli and was amazed he kept slipping. I was hoping nobody else noticed him. gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress you I knew I should have picked him before you got two in a row.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:32
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Huh, I thought this guy was picked but apparently he wasnt so the Rangers happily choose Robby Fabbri. I know this doesnt fit with my normal picks but Im honestly just a fan of the kid. Plus his name is funny.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:37
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Jordan7hm posted:gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress gently caress you I was surprised you didn't spring on him earlier. I had my eyes on Toffoli as I think his game is more rounded than Guentzel's at this point but I'm still happy to get Jake.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:00
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Guentzel was who I was thinking before I decided it was the time for Keller. Guentzel has super impressive numbers but his shooting % was very high. 19% in the regular season and like, 25% in the playoffs.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:10
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Ginette Reno posted:I was surprised you didn't spring on him earlier. I had my eyes on Toffoli as I think his game is more rounded than Guentzel's at this point but I'm still happy to get Jake. I thought he was more likely to come back than Theodore given the run on D. Anyway I'll make my pick shortly, need to do some quick research.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:15
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Yaya posted:Guentzel was who I was thinking before I decided it was the time for Keller. Guentzel has super impressive numbers but his shooting % was very high. 19% in the regular season and like, 25% in the playoffs. Yeah, but on the other hand he ripped the AHL a new rear end in a top hat and has scored at every level. He's for real it's just a question of how good he is.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:18
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Yaya posted:Guentzel was who I was thinking before I decided it was the time for Keller. Guentzel has super impressive numbers but his shooting % was very high. 19% in the regular season and like, 25% in the playoffs. His AHL numbers were killer too though, I think he's probably for real. Maybe not at that pace, but a good top 6 guy.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:19
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Guentzel is for real. My only concern with him is his size and where he likes to play. He's super smart / elusive but he goes into places where you get hurt, and at some point that's gonna catch up to him. Anyway I'm taking a guy who scores at every level, is coming off a very under appreciated rookie season, and who has shockingly good WOWYs and fancies (in admittedly only a season of work). Anthony Mantha. Which leaves me with Mantha - Reinhardt - Marner Theodore - Ekblad Murray
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Jul 22, 2017 23:02
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Lol, the guy with half a season shooting 20 percent playing with hall of famers. You guys are blinded by youth jfc.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:06
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62 points in 54 AHL games is great. Better than Toffoli at the same age for instance.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:09
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Guentzel is a fine pick. Honestly, I thought somebody was going to take him sooner. Technetium has until 8:02 PM EST, followed by ThinkTank and Jamwad Hilder.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:11
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JoelJoel posted:Lol, the guy with half a season shooting 20 percent playing with hall of famers. Watch the kind of shots Guentzel takes and where he takes them from. He gets open so that he has the time to picks corners. He's gonna be a Tanguay. In pro hockey he has 58 goals on 290 shots. Unless his game changes significantly his low end shooting is going to be like 14%.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:12
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also gently caress off for taking Mantha I like your team although I wonder if it has an elite dude who can carry (maybe Murray as he progresses) a team to the Cup, it's going to look good but it's giving me young St. Louis Blues syndrome
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Jul 22, 2017 23:21
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T-Bone posted:also gently caress off for taking Mantha It hurts not picking in the top 10 when you're aiming real young. I think Marner is gonna be Kane good though.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:25
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Give me something called Brady Skjei
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Jul 22, 2017 23:56
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goddamn my list being annihilated, another good pick
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Technetium posted:Give me something called Brady Skjei Best LHD remaining IMO. Solid choice.
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