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Olive Garden tonight! posted:I don't know what people find so bad about "We Built This City" I believe it's largely down to the contrast between the lyrics being all about this grand rock and roll rebellion against the power of the corporations ruining music, but musically it's about as "corporate rock" as it's possible to get. It comes off as disingenuous to music critics, who seem to care about that sort of thing. I don't like the song but it's hardly peculiarly bad.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I believe it's largely down to the contrast between the lyrics being all about this grand rock and roll rebellion against the power of the corporations ruining music, but musically it's about as "corporate rock" as it's possible to get. It comes off as disingenuous to music critics, who seem to care about that sort of thing. The problem is that it's at the very bottom of the barrel boring-bad without being charming enough to wrap around to being enjoyable like MacArthur Park or Crimson King. It's souless endlessly replayed dumb music like Cherry Pie or Achey-Breaky Heart where you just change the station whenever it comes on
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Jul 22, 2017 12:50
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also any structural engineer will tell you that the lyrics are so misleading as to be offensive
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Jul 22, 2017 13:01
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People also used to love Jefferson Airplane
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Jul 22, 2017 13:20
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I like Ed Sheeran's music, and enjoyed his cameo in Game of Thrones.
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Jul 22, 2017 15:38
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like Ed Sheeran's music, and enjoyed his cameo in Game of Thrones. I'm one of those people who genuinely had no idea who this guy was and am baffled to discover that I'm apparently supposed to know all about him, of course I know who he is and I'm a liar pretending to be too cool otherwise. This happened to me before when I didn't know who One Direction was. I don't... that's just not the kind of music I pay attention to and people need to chill out.
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Jul 22, 2017 16:39
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Same. I still haven't googled him out of spite. I'm told he also drove on Top Gear one episode, but I have never watched the Star in a Reasonably Priced car segment of that show because it's stupid and boring.
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Jul 22, 2017 16:43
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Aesop Poprock posted:It's souless endlessly replayed dumb music like Cherry Pie or Achey-Breaky Heart where you just
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Jul 22, 2017 16:48
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I like mayo more than ketchup
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Jul 22, 2017 16:51
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I got recommended his music because someone said I sounded like him, but I looked it up and all his songs are super offensive Nice Guy bullshit so 
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ishikabibble posted:I got recommended his music because someone said I sounded like him, but I looked it up and all his songs are super offensive Nice Guy bullshit so wtf Ed Sheeran songs are you listening to? like I get how the credit song from the second Hobbit movie would make you think that, but cmon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ibBPhiaG0 IMPHUO if that song doesn't make you miss being a dumbass kid, you aren't human.
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Jul 22, 2017 17:12
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Sounds like the male version of Carly Rae Jepson
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Jul 22, 2017 17:22
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:wtf Ed Sheeran songs are you listening to? The lyrics remind me of being a dumb teenager, but the music sure doesn't so it doesn't hit any real connection for me. But I grew up with a weird mix of Industrial, punk, and metal so my musical taste is really messed up. And now I've heard an Ed Sheeran song! I can finally join the modern age.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:40
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Ed Sheeran covering Trap Queen on the Tonight Show is what really turned me against him even though I would normally just ignore his music. The Roots looked loving depressed to be there.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:02
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Unpopular opinion: they only put ed sheeran in that episode because they knew there was nothing else in it to keep people talking about the boring dead show that is the game of thrones.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:03
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Being fat has a lot to do with hosed up brain chemistry and addiction, and should be treated as a disease, rather than something you "will" yourself out of. There has never been a single case of "willing" yourself out of a situation, where bootstraps were the proper answer.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:07
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Unpopular opinion: they only put ed sheeran in that episode because they knew there was nothing else in it to keep people talking about the boring dead show that is the game of thrones. Boring dead show that is destroying HBO ratings records. May not cover the "boring" part but it's definitely not dead.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:23
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Joey Freshwater posted:Boring dead show that is destroying HBO ratings records. My unpopular opinion involves ignoring the popular opinion of considering "facts".
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Jul 22, 2017 21:26
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Joey Freshwater posted:Boring dead show that is destroying HBO ratings records. Guess what else broke ratings record That's right, Hitler's Nuremberg Rallies
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Jul 22, 2017 21:28
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Unpopular opinion: they only put ed sheeran in that episode because they knew there was nothing else in it to keep people talking about the boring dead show that is the game of thrones. can't wait to see jamie foxx in their upcoming show
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Jul 22, 2017 21:42
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Das Boo posted:I'm one of those people who genuinely had no idea who this guy was and am baffled to discover that I'm apparently supposed to know all about him, of course I know who he is and I'm a liar pretending to be too cool otherwise. This happened to me before when I didn't know who One Direction was. Aside from the baby baby song I don't recognize any Justin Bieber songs and everyone thinks I'm lying. I guess it'd be the same for one direction. I don't hate them they just don't really register and I'm not sure how I'd be hearing these songs and knowing who did them since I don't listen to radio stations that feature them or watch tv or commercials they might be on
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Jul 22, 2017 21:45
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Unpopular opinion: they only put ed sheeran in that episode because they knew there was nothing else in it to keep people talking about the boring dead show that is the game of thrones. I've been talking all week about what is Euron going to get to be his gift to Cersei. Tyrion? Ellaria? A dragon? Fascinating stuff. Also, never heard of Ed Sheeran before this cameo thing.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:58
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I'll just come out and say it: The Tudors was a better show than Game of Thrones and they didn't have to include dragons or ghosts or whatever bullshit to be good.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:01
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If I had watched that show I'd say something other than, too bad they didn't have dragons, maybe I would've watched it. 
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Jul 22, 2017 22:05
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I'll just come out and say it: The Tudors was a better show than Game of Thrones and they didn't have to include dragons or ghosts or whatever bullshit to be good. GoT is good in spite of the cgi dragons, not because of. Khaleesi is a terrible actress and by far the most uninspiring character, but I'm rooting for her by default bc they killed off my team, the Tyrells
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Jul 22, 2017 22:07
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I think GoT is worse for having them. Ask the fantasy elements are basically in one episode a season and are ignored or barely mentioned the rest of the time. Next season might be the first time they're the focus.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:07
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Solice Kirsk posted:I think GoT is worse for having them. Ask the fantasy elements are basically in one episode a season and are ignored or barely mentioned the rest of the time. Next season might be the first time they're the focus. That's not true, especially anymore. Right now the focus is on resurrected Jesus analog Jon Snow trying to fight ice demons.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:12
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I'm often confused by complaints about GoT. It's not the world's best done anything but the books it's based on are well thought out and pretty good overall and the show is competently put together and well paced (except season 5, season 5 is actively disappointing). I think it's one of those things where you might only kinda dislike <thing> and move on except <thing> happens to be popular so you despise it with a frothing hatred instead of just not really being a fan. On that topic: I loving hate harry potter (the books, the movies are average and inoffensive) and JK rowling is a loving hack.
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GoT is pretty good and there hasn't been a show with that kind of scope ever and we probably won't have it again for a long time. They film in like 4 countries with a huge cast where most of them haven't ever met each other. I doubt any creative team could do it better than the ones doing it right now. 
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Agent355 posted:I'm often confused by complaints about GoT. It's not the world's best done anything but the books it's based on are well thought out and pretty good overall and the show is competently put together and well paced (except season 5, season 5 is actively disappointing). I dislike it because I have a very short attention span and GOT has way too many characters. Whenever I see spoilers, unless it's one of the top 5 major characters I'm just like "who?". also harry potter is good but the cursed child ruined whatever credibility JK rowling had. Also the "dumbledore is gay" thing was such a blatant publicity stunt and cements my view that authors should not be able to expand or "explain" on things they wrote unless it's in the form of a new novel.
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JK rowling put out another novel series, detectives I think, under a pen name and nobody bought it. It was critically panned and sold incredibly few units, then she came out and said 'it was I, dio, all along' and all of a sudden it was critically acclaimed and people bought it. She is a bad writer and Harry Potter was never well written. She got lucky.
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Game of Thrones is a mediocre fantasy series with "actually everybody back in dragon times was filthy and stabbed" as a gimmick, nothing more. The show elevates it purely by the big HBO budget.
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Game of Thrones is a fun show for me to watch with my dad and best friend and I don't really think about it much beyond that. The biggest criticism I had for a while is that too many of the character archetypes are similar and I would get confused as to who was who sometimes but they've killed off a bunch of them
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Agent355 posted:JK rowling put out another novel series, detectives I think, under a pen name and nobody bought it. It was critically panned and sold incredibly few units, then she came out and said 'it was I, dio, all along' and all of a sudden it was critically acclaimed and people bought it. I wouldn't say Harry Potter was badly written, it just lent itself incredibly well to fan fiction and folks taking it a step further. There are a ton of holes in the plot, the characters do really stupid things a lot of the time in the books, and the magic makes no sense in that universe. But. It was accessible. It was novel. It appealed to a certain demographic. Like most things in life, its more about timing than it is about pure talent. Same for Twilight and 50 Shades of Gray, objectively badly written books, way way worse written than Harry Potter. But, they struck a chord and had good marketing, so we know what they are. As for GoT, the show is really well done, but honestly the books are far, far, far, far better.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:18
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Guy Goodbody posted:Game of Thrones is a mediocre fantasy series with "actually everybody back in dragon times was filthy and stabbed" as a gimmick, nothing more. The show elevates it purely by the big HBO budget. What's a good fantasy series?
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Jul 22, 2017 23:19
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doverhog posted:What's a good fantasy series? 9 Princes in Amber and Wizard of Earthsea
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Orange is the New Black gets rightfully poo poo on a lot now but one thing it does really well is that all of the characters are distinct and fleshed out enough that I know their names and the basic jist of who they are even if they haven't been in a few episodes
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Narnia is also really solid. It's a kid's series and obviously Christian as gently caress, but they're solid kid's books.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:21
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doverhog posted:What's a good fantasy series? Dragonlance of course.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Orange is the New Black gets rightfully poo poo on a lot now but one thing it does really well is that all of the characters are distinct and fleshed out enough that I know their names and the basic jist of who they are even if they haven't been in a few episodes They've reached the breaking point with that though. Even reviewers are losing track of some of the characters who were introduced when the prison expanded. Thankfully the way season 5 ended seems to be fixing that.
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