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Lord Koth posted:...Probably because a lot of those character concepts go back a lot further than x anime, so of course the same tropes will come up over and over. Deku strikes me as a Pulp Hero with a Silver Age twist. All Might of course being Golden Age with a Silver Age sheen. Both of course first having taken a trip through a Japanese filter. Stain is of course 90s as gently caress.
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Lord Koth posted:...Probably because a lot of those character concepts go back a lot further than x anime, so of course the same tropes will come up over and over. Have you seen Naruto? Rock Lee is explicitly the character who is born with no powers and trains really hard to keep up with his classmates who have powers. That's the thing. (He also wears a green jumpsuit  although for that matter I think Deku's outfit looks like Kick rear end too)And that's as much Batman as Captain America too. But it strikes me as much more anime, the character of Deku. The show is definitely a mix of Eastern and Western concepts and values though, and that's part of what makes it work so well and feel fresh even though its very derivative. Gyges posted:Deku strikes me as a Pulp Hero with a Silver Age twist. All Might of course being Golden Age with a Silver Age sheen. Both of course first having taken a trip through a Japanese filter. Yeah definitely. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 17:24
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https://twitter.com/MinovskyArticle/status/879372891946717188 Basically this.
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Jul 22, 2017 17:43
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Except it's more homage than mockery.
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Jul 22, 2017 18:04
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they say that exact thing if you click through and read the tweet thread, mocking is shorter than homaging
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Jul 22, 2017 19:01
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Moltrey posted:they say that exact thing if you click through and read the tweet thread, mocking is shorter than homaging
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Jul 22, 2017 19:38
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yeah it's weird that the guy couldn't remove a single character from his tweet to actually say what he meant instead of something completely different
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Jul 22, 2017 19:44
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gently caress, he went with the fire right off.
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Jul 22, 2017 21:31
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Stain is a really interesting villain 
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Jul 22, 2017 21:51
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omfg "sam kieth posture"  they're right though, except the feet aren't big enough its me Im the one with an almost complete set of the original run of The Maxx comics
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Jul 22, 2017 21:57
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The Maxx rules. Sam Keith rules. As an homage Stain rules, but he's a fucker and I hate him so much.
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Jul 22, 2017 22:04
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i bet Horikoshi totally and sincerely loves or at one point did love Spawn and that rules
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Jul 22, 2017 22:07
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Horikoshi has like a half-dozen Venom figures because he loves that kinda poo poo. He is absolutely into Spawn a whole bunch.
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Moltrey posted:i bet Horikoshi totally and sincerely loves or at one point did love Spawn and that rules 
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Jul 23, 2017 00:14
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Still want to know what's going on in the cell that holds Bale Wayne, Bale Batman, Neeson Ra's(?), and a black R2 unit.
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Dragonatrix posted:Horikoshi has like a half-dozen Venom figures because he loves that kinda poo poo. He is absolutely into Spawn a whole bunch. Fabricated posted:This is part of his office. I know it's been said a million billion times, but I truly wish that cape comics would take pages from Horikoshi's books and I know that's just not doable in ways due to the almost century old comics industry at this point, but god I just cannot give a poo poo about current comics or superheroes outside of whatever Batman comics I read as a kid, I pay no attention to the modern MCU whatsoever. at Meanwhile I'd be down as hell to spend $6 - 7 for a week for the new My Hero Academia issue at my local shop, I love that the volumes have the lil banner in the top left of the cover that says Shonen Jump Comics Vol. # with a lil half a character, that's a super good touch. I know the answer to my complaints is probably Indie Comics, but I feel that itself is sadly another, somehow more impenetrable realm
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indie comics aren't impenetrable, they're just western manga in that they're written by 1 person (or a small group). they only seem that way because you don't know anything about them and you've presumably been reading manga for a while based on the fact that you post in an anime subforum. if you want to learn about indie comics just go to the comic subforum, there's tons of threads on the subject. and i bet dollars to dimes a quick search for something like "what are good graphic novels" or "what indie comics should i start with" would get you a bunch of easy answers.
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back when I was more interested in jumping through hoops to get :files: I was interested in Fell by Warren Ellis and even further back when I lived in a town with a bookstore that dedicated a sizeable chunk of the floorspace to comics (racks of back issues as well as current releases (see: almost complete collection of Maxx) I regularly got two Australian indie comics, Bug & Stump, plus Platinum Grit (the artist of which you may know from a small webcomic called Oglaf)
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Yeah, I shoulda said Feels Like and not stated as a fact, I'm sure anime and manga feel like the same Wild West if you've been reading Hawkeye since middle school
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Moltrey posted:horikoshi owns Go check out Invincible or Saga if you want to check out some comics.
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Jul 23, 2017 02:10
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For that guy who missed it I guess, there's post credit scenes after some episodes and one of them is Bakugo brushing his teeth. It's episode 25 over all or S2 episode 12
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I know it's not current but if you want Good Western Comics and haven't actually read the 60's Era marvel stuff like Romita Sr.'s Spider-Man or classic Fantastic Four, you are doing yourself a massive disservice.
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The comments on the Funimation are literally all people having meltdowns over being two weeks behind or whatever from now on lmao.
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Gyges posted:Deku strikes me as a Pulp Hero with a Silver Age twist. All Might of course being Golden Age with a Silver Age sheen. Both of course first having taken a trip through a Japanese filter.
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Moltrey posted:horikoshi owns Multiverse stuff is really impenetrable and hard to catch up with, but if you wanna break into cape comics do what I do; read one-offs. Things like Marvel Zombies, Red Son, Gotham by Gaslight, all these weird alternate-tales are pretty self-explanatory short-stories that get poo poo done quick and don't run for 500 issues that require you to know the whole backstory. Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder who will represent the Bronze Age. Also, what's the age after that called? After the Bronze age is the "dark age" (the 90s lolol) and then the "modern age"
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Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder who will represent the Bronze Age. Also, what's the age after that called? The Modern Age is after the Bronze Age. Though the first half or so of the Modern Age is also called the Dark age. Golden Age: Later 30's - Early 50's Silver Age: 1956-1970 Bronze Age: 1970-1985 Modern Age: 1985-Now The Modern Age should probably be broken up by now, probably have it end with the Great Crash and after the crash to now be the new Modern Age.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder who will represent the Bronze Age. Also, what's the age after that called? I've heard it called the Dark Age occasionally, since it was the 90s and poo poo like Spawn and Rob liefeld were king. Deku is the Bronze Age stand in
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What do those terms mean outside of years?
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I'm no expert, but roughly and as i understand it:Gyges posted:The Modern Age is after the Bronze Age. Though the first half or so of the Modern Age is also called the Dark age. e: I also just found out that wiki has big pages for all of these things that probably are better for the curious to look at start at the golden age and go from there
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I've also heard the second half of the Modern age, after the Dark Age, referred to as the Aluminum Age because we're constantly recycling everything now.
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EmmyOk posted:What do those terms mean outside of years? Golden Age is the classic Era of superhero comics where Good Guys knock the poo poo out of Bad Guys, who are usually thinly based on actual evils in the real world (E.g. The mob, slum lords, Hitler) and is defined by a very strong throughline of moral justice and not a small amount of wish fulfillment. Silver Age is the result of moral panic and the Comics Code forcing comics to lighten up and get silly, with stuff like telepathic gorillas from another dimension, Comet the Super-Horse, Superman developing a new power every week, and a general lack of consequences for anything that happened. Batman '66 is pretty much the purest form of Silver Age wackiness, bless it. (Side note: the Comics Code also effectively killed the horror and mystery comics that had flourished alongside superhero comics during the Golden Age, which is why superheroes dominate the market in America compared to other countries) Bronze Age was the pendulum swinging against the nothing-matters wackiness of the Silver Age and marked a return to handling Real World issues in comics, with, imo, the defining start being the death of Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man #122. The Bronze Age was characterized by superheroes having to deal with real issues like racism and drug abuse with albeit questionable skill and tact (cue speedy.jpg), as well as a resurgence and absorption of Horror and Mystery comic themes with characters like Blade, Ghost Rider, and the Punisher. The Dark Age was essentially people taking the themes of the bronze age and seeing how far they could run with them. Frank Miller and Alan Moore paved the way with The Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen, respectively, both of which took the conventions and cliches of the superhero genre and ran them until they broke, and a million young readers decided to imitate them with all of the extreme-ness and none of the tact. Dark Age characters tend to be extremely violent, hyper-masculinized, and questionably heroic, such as Deadpool (before he became a comedy character,) Spawn, Lobo, Cable, etc. etc. etc. Heroes that kill a lot, lots of guns, and character designs that tend towards the hyper-muscled and over-kibbled. I stopped giving a poo poo about comics around 2000 so someone else is going to have to run down the modern Era.
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EmmyOk posted:What do those terms mean outside of years? Golden Age was the era where Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Captain America (though not as a Marvel character because Marvel didn't exist yet) and Alan Scott originated. Back when Superman was a left-wing vigilante who lept tall buildings in a single bound, Batman used guns (OK, only for a few issues), and there was less continuity. This was before the Comics Code, so superheroes were allowed to be brutal vigilantes, although generally not to the extremes the 90s took it. More serious tone than Silver Age stuff (though still campy in retrospect), generally lower power levels. The Silver Age (at least at D.C.) has a lighter tone, with heroes who don't kill (because Comics Code), Superman having a bajillion overpowered abilities, Superman making Jimmy Olsen marry a gorilla because reasons, and general absurdity. Marvel originates in this period, and is more serious (though still adhering to various Comics Code taboos), to the point where it feels weird to apply the term Silver Age to Marvel. The Bronze Age marks a shift towards seriousness and social relevance (often clumsy in retrospect), like when Green Lantern and Green Arrow discover that racism and drugs exist. This is made possible in part by the loosening of the Comics Code. The Dark Age begins with Watchmen and The Dark Night Returns, marking a shift towards over-the-top Dark and Edgy. Antiheroes like Ghost Rider and Spawn, Rob Liefeld's exaggerated muscles, Doomsday "killing" Superman. Also a lot of dubious business decisions involving collectible variant covers and the like, which nearly killed the industry. Some would say the Dark Age never really ended...
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EmmyOk posted:What do those terms mean outside of years? The time prior to the Golden Age was all the Pulp Heroes and was primarily found in Comic Strips that ran in newspapers. Slowly comic strips as stand alone media became a thing, going from collections of previous newspaper strips, to newspaper inserts, to stand alone magazines. Comedy, gags, and, I think, horror are the main genres.  The Golden Age is the introduction of Superheroes. Officially starting with Action Comics #1 and Superman. Often comics would carry a message. Superman was super lefty and would regularly take on rich assholes and try and help the poor. Wonder Woman pushed feminism and light bondage. Batman's war on crime had actual messages. Then World War 2 came along and everyone got patriotic as gently caress. However as the Golden Age wound down Superheroes began to be less popular and the Comics Code was introduced because dumb assholes started a congressional investigation because nobody was thinking of the children. It was very Freudian as the nation was told about all the gay things trying to make children gay. Also, Wonder Woman kind of didn't help but wasn't really the focus because it wasn't about making little boys gay. At the end of the Golden Age superheroes were fading away and the popular comics were romance, horror, mystery, and gag comics.  The Silver Age is more or less Adam West Batman writ large. The beginning of the Silver Age is the creation of The Flash, the first new superhero to catch on. At the time of Flash's creation Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman were the only superheroes who still had their own, stand alone, comics. The implementation of the Comics Code, done to keep Congress from regulating comics much like the MPAA and ESRB, pushed publishers to focus once more on superheroes. However due to the Comics Code there was a whole lot less messages and a whole lot more wacky adventures. This is when Superman was a giant dick to all his friends, especially Jimmy, and Batman would be Adam West as all gently caress. This is the era most people think of as virtually all popular comics media of film and TV focused on this until very recently. Super Friends, Linda Carter Wonder Woman, Live Action Spiderman.  The Bronze Age is when comics decided to once again incorporate social issue messages into comics. There is no real delineating event that divides the Silver and Bronze Ages. A popular early early example is when Green Lantern and Green Arrow started teaming up and going around the US. Obviously everything wasn't all about social issues and stuff. But the tone of comics was generally darker than in the Silver Age. More "down to Earth". This is also when minority superheroes started popping up. Due to revisions in the Comics Code non-superhero genres began making a comeback. Also this is when characters like Ghost Rider and Kamandi came out, dealing less with super heroics and more with more genre specific action. Pulp heroes also got a new lease on publication after Conan got a comic that, I think, is still running. Additionally the comics companies started publishing official adaptations/tie ins with Hollywood movies.  The Modern Age is everything after that. Started off more or less with the now annual and usually tiresome event cross over. Of course then it was a fairly fresh and newish idea, DC having Crisis on Infinite Earths and Marvel having Secret Wars. This is also when Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns are published. The popularity of which lead directly into the Dark Age where everything was grim and gritty and the anti-hero reigned.  Edit: Guess I shouldn't have spent so much time trying to find pictures. Pre-Golden Age took forever because I don't know jack about it and I didn't feel like posting something super racist. Gyges fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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PMush Perfect posted:I've also heard the second half of the Modern age, after the Dark Age, referred to as the Aluminum Age because we're constantly recycling everything now. A part of me wishes the Dark Age could be renamed the Iron Age just to complete the pattern.
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Mraagvpeine posted:A part of me wishes the Dark Age could be renamed the Iron Age just to complete the pattern. Gold, Silver, Bronze, Iron, Aluminum. Gyges posted:There is no real delineating event that divides the Silver and Bronze Ages.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I wonder who will represent the Bronze Age. Also, what's the age after that called? ...Bakugo is literally exploding Wolverine Come to think of it, when I imagine him and Deku eventually getting lets say, above 80% of the way to reconciling, it looks a lot like Spider-Man and Wolverine's "nerdy younger brother and psycho older brother who only visits in between jail stints but has a heart of gold and wishes he could be not a psycho like his little brother" dynamic OnimaruXLR fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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PMush Perfect posted:Some people do exactly that. That's the one where Stan Lee was told he couldn't do a PSA comic about Spidey fighting drug dealers because drug use was a forbidden topic, right?
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Yep. Essentially, the bureaucracy tripped over itself because someone incompetent was put in charge of making the decisions that day and Stan Lee just said gently caress it.
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PMush Perfect posted:Some people do exactly that. Green Lantern and Green Arrow had already realized that racism and drugs were issues by that point. Really the difference is that both the Golden and Silver Ages begin with the creation of a specific character, meanwhile the Bronze and Modern Ages are more or less tone changes that happen in the same time frame.
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