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But how do you REALLY feel about this game?
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also who are you talking to
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Jul 22, 2017 18:39
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You specifically
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Jul 22, 2017 18:43
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Big Beef City posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDLn-Gr2_8I That is a very agile Rusev you got there.
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Jul 22, 2017 18:47
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Super No Vacancy posted:also who are you talking to I'd actually like you to defend this game, now. Not in advance. As people post issues.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:04
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Big Beef City posted:I'd actually like you to defend this game, now. Feel free to start any time now. The game has its flaws but so far all you've done is posted a video of a very sprightly Rusev.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:07
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What am I supposed to start? e: max if you think there is anything bigger here or that I'm 'Starting something' ...uh no. Big Beef City fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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Jul 22, 2017 19:10
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You're just saying "the game sucks" and then asking someone to defend it "as people post issues", which you haven't done.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:15
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is this about Fire Pro World or Wrestling Revolution Whatever?
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SleepCousinDeath posted:is this about Fire Pro World or Wrestling Revolution Whatever? Its about being brave. Its about fighting the good fight.
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projecthalaxy posted:Its about being brave. Its about fighting the good fight. Hear hear. Stand up against this lovely game tyranny. I guess.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:25
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Giant Gram 2000 is the only wrestling game that matters anyway
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Jul 22, 2017 19:26
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Okay just to clarify my positions: Fire Pro Wrestling World is a fun, fast-paced game with enough depth to capture an authentic wrestling feel, and has lots of fun edit options, but as Early Access there's still some bugs and the learning curve is a little steepish. Needs better documentation and a way to sort through all those head options besides just color. Wrestling Revolution 3D probably sucks. Every time I hear about all the stupid poo poo that can happen in it I'm vaguely interested, but then you watch it actually being played and it's so slow and clunky, you can tell it's a pain.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:28
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Wrestling Revolution is more fun and entertaining than WWE 2k17.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:34
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Maxwell Lord posted:Okay just to clarify my positions: The game sucks.
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Big Beef City posted:The game sucks. No poo poo. It is a Bad Game. It's a fun Bad Game.
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Taintrunner posted:Wrestling Revolution is more fun and entertaining than WWE 2k17. I'll have to take your word on that one.
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Jul 22, 2017 19:41
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Apparently when you blow up the ring in Fire Pro it busts everyone open, including the ref, which is a nice touch I guess. Still wish there was a blood slider so you can go from no blood PG to straight up CZW bloodbaths.
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Jul 22, 2017 20:55
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poo poo on 2k all you want but at least that game is loving playable. If they made a game that looked like WWE 2k visually (crap on the graphics all you want, but it's the best looking wrestling game on the market), played like an AKI game, had a general manager mode approaching the depth (but not quite as in-depth) as TEW and had the Fire Pro customization options it would be the greatest wrestling video game of all time.
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Jul 22, 2017 23:01
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"if only it was a different game it would be good!"
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jred250 posted:poo poo on 2k all you want but at least that game is loving playable. If they made a game that looked like WWE 2k visually (crap on the graphics all you want, but it's the best looking wrestling game on the market), played like an AKI game, had a general manager mode approaching the depth (but not quite as in-depth) as TEW and had the Fire Pro customization options it would be the greatest wrestling video game of all time. People poo poo on the 2K games' graphics because they're just the diarrhea topping on the poo poo cake that is those awful games. You're corrects, however, that if it was a completely different, otherwise good game but with those graphics, people would give them a pass.
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I always thought people who liked mdickie stuff were being ironic, I didn't realize there were people who would actually defend those games as a competitive product.
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spongeh posted:I always thought people who liked mdickie stuff were being ironic, I didn't realize there were people who would actually defend those games as a competitive product. It's really dumb in ways that are really interesting. You get bounced between different companies and meet all sorts of knockoffs of real wrestlers. The Career Mode just goes, forever, and autogenerates a universe where people die, offer you steroids, steal your clothes and force you to wrestle naked... it is, in spirit, closer to the weirdness of actual wrestling than any other wrestling game.
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Taintrunner posted:It's really dumb in ways that are really interesting. You get bounced between different companies and meet all sorts of knockoffs of real wrestlers. The Career Mode just goes, forever, and autogenerates a universe where people die, offer you steroids, steal your clothes and force you to wrestle naked... it is, in spirit, closer to the weirdness of actual wrestling than any other wrestling game. its only closer in spirit to wrestling b/c you need severe CTE to think its good
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SleepCousinDeath posted:Giant Gram 2000 is the only wrestling game that matters anyway It upsets me to no end that Japanese game studios have given up on making puro games. An NJPW game in the style of Giant Gram would be amazing. Or Syn Sophia needs to get off its rear end and finally make VPW3
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Jul 23, 2017 00:01
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created 140 new steam accounts and bought fire pro and wrestling revolution on all of them
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As much as I love Fire Pro, the problem is that wrestling is not a single match or a single event. Wrestling is a story playing out over weeks, months, maybe even years. The problem with the WWE 2k games is that the MyCareer requires like 65 hours of bland repetitive matches to get a title shot, the Universe mode feels too limited, and with no Create a Story the fun is gone. Wrestling Revolution has a career mode that just... goes. Forever. And has a lot of weird poo poo that happens like a character dying and you getting involved in a funeral PPV where you smash your rival into a coffin holding the now-dead character. Oh, and that coffin is stacked on top of 3 over coffins, and they all break. It's a really loving dumb, bad game. But it "gets" wrestling melodrama more than anything else.
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Taintrunner posted:As much as I love Fire Pro, the problem is that wrestling is not a single match or a single event. Wrestling is a story playing out over weeks, months, maybe even years. The problem with the WWE 2k games is that the MyCareer requires like 65 hours of bland repetitive matches to get a title shot, the Universe mode feels too limited, and with no Create a Story the fun is gone. Wrestling Revolution has a career mode that just... goes. Forever. And has a lot of weird poo poo that happens like a character dying and you getting involved in a funeral PPV where you smash your rival into a coffin holding the now-dead character. Oh, and that coffin is stacked on top of 3 over coffins, and they all break. Maybe this is when you give up wrestling as a genre, when even video games can't 'get it right'?
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Yeah, like, I like the idea that you do actually start a character from wrestling school and there are different promotions you can go to and wrestle in and all sorts of stuff is happening off screen with those promotions, but the actual matches are just painful even to watch. I can't imagine how awkward they are to play. It's not like any game really gets things "perfect", mind you. But I think it would be cool if someone with actual resources and talent could do a wrestling game that has fun fighting AND starts to work in the crazy business stuff.
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super macho dude posted:It upsets me to no end that Japanese game studios have given up on making puro games. ...Fire Pro is Japanese, and the 2K games are still done by Yukes in Japan, no? But yeah I think that's more a casualty of the puro bubble bursting a bit, and games moving from consoles where Japanese devs had enough resources and skill to make excellent titles, to consoles that required bigger teams and HD assets. That's broken so many devs in Japan it's not even funny. But with New Japan and wrestling in Japan in general back in the consciousness and getting popular again, I'd love for somebody to make a good NJPW game that could be on both, say, Switch and PS4. Besides Fire Pro, of course.
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Yukes owned New Japan for years and during that time period never made a New Japan game.
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remusclaw posted:Yukes owned New Japan for years and during that time period never made a New Japan game. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestle_Kingdom_(video_game)
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I was actually going to correct myself after remembering Wrestle Kingdom but will note that they owned the company until 2012 and the last Wrestle Kingdom was made in 07.
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does seem like the market should be able to support another console game. the genre must have done well at some point since there were always legends of wrestling games and def jam games and poo poo trying to grab a piece. if they did NJPW vs ROH you could put okada and tanahashi and omega on the cover in japan and put the young bucks and cody on the cover in the u.s.. and omega that combined audience is probably less than the 1.1 million tna used to get when they had a console game though lol Super No Vacancy fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Jul 23, 2017 02:16
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Aki's not dead, per se, it's just that most likely nobody who made the Revenge/No Mercy-era games works there anymore, and they're too busy making Style Savvy games
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I always preferred nwo revenge over no mercy WCW forever!
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Jul 23, 2017 02:29
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According to wikipedia there was going to be a WCW 2000/Mayhem 2 game that would have been developed by AKI.
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:Aki was cool and good rip aki condemned to an eternity of making anime games for the mortal sin of being too greedy with their engine https://twitter.com/synsophia
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