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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah, it's the first time they hinted at him trying to pull himself out of Dougie. I'm not trying to attack you, but I keep seeing people in this thread refer to Dale in this way. Dale Cooper is not Dougie in any way. Dougie was pulled into the lodge completely. Dale arrived in the same place, moments afterward. But they are two separate entities. There is no escaping, transforming, or pulling out of Dougie going on. Dale Cooper is just trying to wake up, or become whole again.
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Yeah, but it's easier to refer to him as Dougie atm while everyone else around him does.
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Apple Craft posted:I'm not trying to attack you, but I keep seeing people in this thread refer to Dale in this way. *pointing to self* dougie jones
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Holy poo poo, this is some extreme pedantry. Yes, everyone knows Coop isn't Dougie. You know exactly what people mean when they say that.
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Apple Craft posted:I'm pretty sure Major Brigg's farts would make me hate him, too. i hope he was farting up a shitstorm in the diner scene with bobby.
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...! posted:Holy poo poo, this is some extreme pedantry. Yes, everyone knows Coop isn't Dougie. You know exactly what people mean when they say that. I have seen some people in other forums making fun of people calling him Cooper instead of Dougie. There are quite literally people who have no idea that it's Cooper.
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Dougie's hair isn't up to S1. There better be a hair montage...  http://i.imgur.com/xJTl7lY.gifv  ...when Cooper comes back.
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I just need to take a moment to appreciate your appreciation of Sharon Needles. Thx.
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TheMaestroso posted:If she were, I think she would look like the two addicts from Part 9 or Becky's husband. I mean not necessarily, there are plenty of people who do heroin or crystal meth that look totally normal. edit: gotta stop reading threads backwards.
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Continuing my thoughts while rewatching, I wanna express my disappointment that the situation with Steven and Shelly's daughter ended up being a "history repeats itself" kind of thing. I really liked the first impression we got of their relationship, where it presented him as being pretty obviously bad for her but they were trying to make it work regardless. The abuse angle really wasn't necessary imo.
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CJacobs posted:Continuing my thoughts while rewatching, I wanna express my disappointment that the situation with Steven and Shelly's daughter ended up being a "history repeats itself" kind of thing. I really liked the first impression we got of their relationship, where it presented him as being pretty obviously bad for her but they were trying to make it work regardless. The abuse angle really wasn't necessary imo.
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CJacobs posted:Continuing my thoughts while rewatching, I wanna express my disappointment that the situation with Steven and Shelly's daughter ended up being a "history repeats itself" kind of thing. I really liked the first impression we got of their relationship, where it presented him as being pretty obviously bad for her but they were trying to make it work regardless. The abuse angle really wasn't necessary imo. I feel just the same way which suggests to me this is exactly what Lynch was going for. At first you think okay, their relationship isn't on a firm footing but at least they like each other. Then you think gee, she is having a little too much fun doing drugs and looking at the sky, bit eerie. Then you realize that their lovely situation makes their relationship completely untenable and they are both on the edge of freaking the gently caress out, and the boyfriend has just about fallen off. It's a way of setting up scenes that allows you to participate in the denial of the characters that anything is wrong.
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Alan_Shore posted:Wait, who the hell is Steven? When did we see him? Becky's boyfriend (husband?), the ginger who can't get a job.
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So Im not the only one in this thread thats realized the las vegas / dougie plot is a mulholland drivesque dream sequence right?
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skasion posted:I feel just the same way which suggests to me this is exactly what Lynch was going for. At first you think okay, their relationship isn't on a firm footing but at least they like each other. Then you think gee, she is having a little too much fun doing drugs and looking at the sky, bit eerie. Then you realize that their lovely situation makes their relationship completely untenable and they are both on the edge of freaking the gently caress out, and the boyfriend has just about fallen off. It's a way of setting up scenes that allows you to participate in the denial of the characters that anything is wrong. I meant that I was disappointed in an outside-the-show way, as in a "this is lazy writing and pretty lame" kinda way. But I can see how one might enjoy it looking at it from that perspective.
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terminal chillness posted:So Im not the only one in this thread thats realized the las vegas / dougie plot is a mulholland drivesque dream sequence right?
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CJacobs posted:Continuing my thoughts while rewatching, I wanna express my disappointment that the situation with Steven and Shelly's daughter ended up being a "history repeats itself" kind of thing. I really liked the first impression we got of their relationship, where it presented him as being pretty obviously bad for her but they were trying to make it work regardless. The abuse angle really wasn't necessary imo. Sometimes this show feels like that yeah. Isn't TM all about not repressing "negative" stuff and zealously getting rid of it? The abuse part seems a bit thrown in to make the couple seem bad just for being gently caress ups and using drugs to deal with it.
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CJacobs posted:Continuing my thoughts while rewatching, I wanna express my disappointment that the situation with Steven and Shelly's daughter ended up being a "history repeats itself" kind of thing. I really liked the first impression we got of their relationship, where it presented him as being pretty obviously bad for her but they were trying to make it work regardless. The abuse angle really wasn't necessary imo. Frankly, I disagree. I don't really see it as "history repeats itself", but more in the sense of... "the evil in Twin Peaks is generational, and will never die", I suppose. I view the town as sort of like Stephen King's Derry in IT, except Twin Peaks has great upsides like fantastic coffee and pie, beautiful waitresses, Nadine's Drape Runner shop, etc. Anyway, I just see Becky and Steven (those are their names, correct?) as kind of essential, in a way. Lynch keeping his archetypes fresh; underlining the underlying points, if you will. This kind of behavior and these situations really are cyclical in life, and it's tragic and sad. Shelley knows something is wrong, but she does nothing but acquiesce to her daughter's demands for money. But the thing is, THAT is human behavior - that is how people really act. Mothers are very often enabling, and cannot say no to their children all the way to the very end I thought the scene with Steven screaming at her was drat powerful, and that it felt like a frighteningly realistic glimpse into what is (judging by Carl's "not this poo poo again" reaction) no doubt a scary and terrifying relationship. I just think there's a great deal of truth there with regard to human nature, and human behavior. I hope we see more of them.
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Steven is a mirror of Leo, but he's also a better character in the 5 minutes of screentime he's had than Leo ever was in two seasons and a movie. I always thought Leo was a mistake of a character, a cartoonish ball of white hot rage with no other motivations or background to speak of. A red herring for the Laura mystery who gets tossed aside for the entire second season. I always felt bad for Eric DaRe, I thought he was a decent actor in a really lovely role. We have reasons to sympathize with Steven. He's trying to get work, he knows his life is a mess, he has no control over anything. He's like a teenage proto-Leo, which is just way more interesting than a villain that just doesn't struggle with much of anything, then gets sidelined for comic relief for a whole season. edit: Even Leo's second season comeuppance is wasted by the fact that he doesn't understand what's going on. There's no catharsis in torturing an evil character if they're a vegetable. It would have been such a better arc if he was just quadriplegic but otherwise mentally sound, trapped in a quiet frenzy of rage. Dr. Fishopolis fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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I'm enjoying over all, but I am getting bored. The nuke episode brought me back but really, over half the season with the main character incapacitated is just getting meh to me at this point. The sex scene was funny, but I would still prefer to have Coop dialogue and a mystery to solve. I'm finding I'm not highly invested in many of the storylines. I will say I'm looking forward to Jack Rabbit's Palace.
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If I had one complaint with the show I think it's that to me it feels like it's too spread out. Someone equated it earlier to Lynch keeping a bunch of plates spinning, and going with that metaphor, imo he's trying to spin too many at once and because of that they're all kind of wobbly. I like that there's a lot of plot threads but the main three-ish are moving along so slowly that it feels like the show has virtually no momentum.
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Yeah, I enjoy TP week to week, but if we look back at the whole season and "real Dale" ends up only appearing in the last 2-3 episodes, I'll feel like the whole comeback was a large missed opportunity. What story did David Lynch really want to tell with "Dougie" by spending so much time with him?
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moist turtleneck posted:11 seems like a prime episode for flipping some poo poo wide open -No Andy, Audrey, Laura, Big Ed , Nadine, Jacoby, Ben, Jerry, James or Sarah. -No Evil Cooper, Janey-E, Sonny Jim, Hutch, Chantal or Ray. -We do see Shelly and Bobby in a scene together and find out what happened to them. Divorce makes sense to me. We also see Norma, perhaps as part of this scene. -The Log Lady (!!!), Hawk, Lucy, Gordon, Albert, Becky, Steven, Carl, Candie (and I assume the Mitchums) appear. https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/comments/6ot7l3/s3e11_sdcc_screening_discussion_part_11/dkkshi0/
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Zmej posted:-No Audrey Just end me now, fam.
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