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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Al-Saqr posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/23/chapo-trap-house-leftwing-breitbart

Leave it to the lib guardian to be such loving scumbags for comparing Chapo to loving lying Nazis like Breitbart. Also you can read the contempt drippin in this page.

It's hostile, but it's not even close to the navel gazing garbage Jeet was pushing. It's a terribly written article, but I guess it's a report versus an op-ed which... ????

Hey, I don't have a thesis, here are some facts and mischaracterizations, and I'm going to end with a possible reason why people might be slightly upset.

e: actually this comment summed it up pretty well

quote:

DouglasPouch 7m ago

I listened to the show. It contained a number of racial slurs, mention of the "traitor Gulen" and something about "going on cumtown".

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Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011
Grimey Drawer

Phone posted:

It's hostile, but it's not even close to the navel gazing garbage Jeet was pushing. It's a terribly written article, but I guess it's a report versus an op-ed which... ????

I would say it seemed pretty even-handed considering Chapo's entire premise is attacking the Graun's brand of liberalism.

Its biggest source of bias is leaving out a bunch of context--like, they explain who El Chapo is and what a trap house is, but not why they chose to call the podcast Chapo Trap House (so it sounds like a mixtape). I would be confused as poo poo by that if I didn't know the backstory already. Or else think CTH were just edgy VICE types.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

Í̝̰ ͓̯̖̫̹̯̤A҉m̺̩͝ ͇̬A̡̮̞̠͚͉̱̫ K̶e͓ǵ.̻̱̪͖̹̟̕


:patriot:

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Spoeank posted:

All the neoliberal think pieces hinging on idiots changing the of a phrase that is hundreds of years old so they can be offended by it

Shut the gently caress up, goddamn.

Which one this time?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Which one this time?

The bend the knee poo poo

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



BENGHAZI 2 posted:

The bend the knee poo poo

Are they still on that poo poo?

Must be exhausting to have to sustain fake lib outrage so long.

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan

Al-Saqr posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/23/chapo-trap-house-leftwing-breitbart

Leave it to the lib guardian to be such loving scumbags for comparing Chapo to loving lying Nazis like Breitbart. Also you can read the contempt drippin in this page.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Pac-Manioc Root posted:

Are they still on that poo poo?

Must be exhausting to have to sustain fake lib outrage so long.

It's because they've never liked Chapo and they finally have (something insane) to point to so they're airing every single grievance

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
i hope they never use any other photo of them for articles

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
Chapo is going to become the new Bernie Bros. We're going to see all these articles comparing chapo to brietbart and they're going to say will is the lefts milo or something and it's just going to become the accepted narrative by libs.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

The_Rob posted:

Chapo is going to become the new Bernie Bros. We're going to see all these articles comparing chapo to brietbart and they're going to say will is the lefts milo or something and it's just going to become the accepted narrative by libs.

Fine with me since people who unironically use the term Bernie Bro are universally idiotic. It's a good indicator.

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
The only fair criticism of Chapo and Jacobin writers is that they are mostly children of the upper/upper-middle class who do the same romanticizing of the working class as the conservatives pundits do, except with actual solutions to the problems. People like Connor Kilpatrick love talking about being the dirtbag left, but they really haven't experienced poverty, so it is just the same kind of poo poo but from the left. One example was when they were talking about Bernie being so poor he had to steal electricity, which they equated to borrowing a neighbor's wifi access. It's this thing where they try to act like they too know what it's like to struggle, since there is a feeling of it giving them cred. The guys from Street Fight have lived a far more working class life and never really romanticize it like that.

Felix also did some carepost on Facebook that was pretty tone deaf, but like a lot of things stems from jealousy of getting paid decent money for talking two hours a week

https://twitter.com/TepidButter/status/888906151643013120

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
felix has always been pretty open about how stupid it is that he's able to do nice things for saying dick jokes about politicians, i dunno why people get wound

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
like hes literally described himself as a "bullshit podcast man" before

Serf
May 5, 2011


who is mike sacco and why is his name circled?

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Serf posted:

who is mike sacco and why is his name circled?

Michael Sacco is an American labor leader from Brooklyn, New York. He was appointed as the president of the Seafarers International Union of North America, AFL-CIO in June 1988 by the SIUNA Executive Board.

alternately some dude who used to be a contractor at cryptozooic and said that tiny tina from borderlands 2 was racist

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
It's just people mad that they get paid well to talk for a living, really all it is. The show was in a right place/right time scenario and a bunch of people are just upset they didn't get there first.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

CortezFantastic posted:

It's just people mad that they get paid well to talk for a living, really all it is. The show was in a right place/right time scenario and a bunch of people are just upset they didn't get there first.

Also people are so conditioned to thinking about socialism as cold grey and unpleasant that people can't grasp the idea of socialism as anything but. People honestly believe Amber is sarcastic about her example of nationalizing the Whole Foods hot bar. How can a socialist want comrades to go to an adult-theme playground for vacation? That's not cold and unenjoyable at all!

Daynab
Aug 5, 2008

None of this is new anyway, every artist or musician with radical left material has been accused time and time again of being hypocrites for making money off their art no matter how much they represent the cause or what they do with the money.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

CortezFantastic posted:

It's just people mad that they get paid well to talk for a living, really all it is. The show was in a right place/right time scenario and a bunch of people are just upset they didn't get there first.

It's only good if more people come to understand that the key factor in success is just dumb luck, even if the billionaires want you to think otherwise.

frameset
Apr 13, 2008

Spoeank posted:

It's because they've never liked Chapo and they finally have (something insane) to point to so they're airing every single grievance

Will had a tweet the other day that stuck with me:

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/885877608768036868

Every other opponent they have online they try to doxx and figure out the best way to discredit them to cut off their livelihood or cow them into silence. Since CTH is supported by Patreon the technique doesn't work and it does absolutely drive them mad.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Yeah, however the constant weird "huuuh check out how badass Amber is for eating at a burgershop that's next to a bulletproof glass" fanfiction does take a blow w poo poo like this, and if this just means they outright being upfront about it rather than write bizarre poverty porn about headboards or whatever, that's just a positive at this point. There's a point where you write stuff like

https://twitter.com/hupperts/status/889139153513873409

and you have to go "... Wait."

Also, lol at the freedie reply down there.

Kunster fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 23, 2017

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

The_Rob posted:

Chapo is going to become the new Bernie Bros. We're going to see all these articles comparing chapo to brietbart and they're going to say will is the lefts milo or something and it's just going to become the accepted narrative by libs.

so it will be ineffective and just get most who will listen and don't agree with them to continue to ignore them and roll their eyes? cool

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Chapo is Rush.

Will is sober Rush
Felix is caffeinated Rush
Matt is drunk Rush
Amber is drugged Rush
Virgil is indigestion Rush

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
wait, the band the dog or the fat pederast

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

The Muppets On PCP posted:

wait, the band the dog or the fat pederast

yea

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Who is that

a dumb-rear end. once he melted down because of this tweet (for bodyshaming lol)

https://twitter.com/Crimsy_/status/869301164554297350

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Daynab posted:

None of this is new anyway, every artist or musician with radical left material has been accused time and time again of being hypocrites for making money off their art no matter how much they represent the cause or what they do with the money.

Russell Brand says something like "when I was poor and talked about class, they called me jealous, now that I'm rich and talk about class, they say I'm a hypocrite".

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Slanderer posted:

a dumb-rear end. once he melted down because of this tweet (for bodyshaming lol)

https://twitter.com/Crimsy_/status/869301164554297350

she look like a thot

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Slanderer posted:

a dumb-rear end. once he melted down because of this tweet (for bodyshaming lol)

https://twitter.com/Crimsy_/status/869301164554297350

idgi






https://twitter.com/2dAmMuslim/status/888918343419351040

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

It's a joke about blocking men who are 5'7-5'11. Ladies like tall guys.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Matt Zerella posted:

It's a joke about blocking men who are 5'7-5'11. Ladies like tall guys.

What about guys who are 5'6"? If they're shorter than me, they shouldn't count either.

bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m
Apr 16, 2017

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https://twitter.com/danielmajesky/status/889287964269871106

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Kunster posted:

Yeah, however the constant weird "huuuh check out how badass Amber is for eating at a burgershop that's next to a bulletproof glass" fanfiction does take a blow w poo poo like this, and if this just means they outright being upfront about it rather than write bizarre poverty porn about headboards or whatever, that's just a positive at this point. There's a point where you write stuff like

https://twitter.com/hupperts/status/889139153513873409

and you have to go "... Wait."

Also, lol at the freedie reply down there.

I'm a bit slow brains right now, but the tweet is absurd because the $150K figure is split amongst several people plus taxation after the fact, right?

I mean ultimately, I'm not gonna fault the CTH folks for being successful. No matter what, their level of success is never gonna reach the level of millionaires and billionaires loving w politics, short of some major cultural sea change. If their lives are a little less lovely, and I'm able to better understand and contextualize my disdain for pundits or neoliberal policy, then I'm happy!

yoober
Nov 21, 2010

Boywhiz88 posted:

I'm a bit slow brains right now, but the tweet is absurd because the $150K figure is split amongst several people plus taxation after the fact, right?

pod makes $72k/month

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



prefect posted:

Russell Brand says something like "when I was poor and talked about class, they called me jealous, now that I'm rich and talk about class, they say I'm a hypocrite".

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



u critique society yet u participate it instead of living in a cave covered in bear pelts u hypoctites.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Darkman Fanpage posted:

she look like a thot

I hit follow on her just so she would have 1488 followers

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

yoober posted:

pod makes $72k/month

Yeah they're realistically making under ten grand each pre tax also they are true comrades who will escape the guillotine

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Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Yeah they're realistically making under ten grand each pre tax also they are true comrades who will escape the guillotine

Yeah, they're not exploiting anyone. Unlike Pac-Manioc Root, who is exploiting me for free premium Chapo.

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