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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Iron Twinkie posted:

:same:
I thought it was a prelude to thumbing through the Democrats new Copper and Pewter Obamacare coverage tiers tomorrow. It still might be.

they're gonna fix obamacare with tax credits. to qualify for the credits you'll have to find the derivative of a provided equation and apply that to your net healthcare income

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The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE


liberals sure love to silence minorities who don't buy their bullshit

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.


What world is that last person living in

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Hot take: using "liberal" interchangeably with "Brock / DNC hack" is bad

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Vox Nihili posted:

brief reminder that even early in the primary season, the DNC knew and acknowledged that supporting Clinton incurred a "social cost" for voters. they went all-in on her anyway, presumably out of sheer hubris

they went all in on hillary because going against her would have been a career-ender

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

GalacticAcid posted:

Hot take: using "liberal" interchangeably with "Brock / DNC hack" is bad

hot take: liberals are bad

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

they went all in on hillary because going against hillary would have been a career-ender

She keeps a list of enemies who wronged her such as rebellious people who decided to endorse Senator Obama in the 2008 primary.

Crooked behavior

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/889166950357749764

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Scent of Worf posted:

hot take: liberals are bad

Bernie means well

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
i loving knew it

it's hillary's word salad from her website :roflolmao:

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a7e5_story.html

Nancy Pelosi posted:

Last week, our nation marked six months since President Trump’s inauguration.

For the first time in a decade, the GOP had the White House, Congress and complete control of the legislative process to advance its agenda. But instead of creating good-paying jobs, or rebuilding America’s crumbling infrastructure, or advancing tax reform, Republicans have spent six months trying to raise Americans’ health costs to fund tax breaks for billionaires.

Democrats have a better approach — in fact, a better deal. On Monday, House and Senate Democrats are traveling to the town of Berryville, Va., to announce a fresh vision for “A Better Deal: Better Jobs, Better Wages, Better Future.”

What motivates us is that the costs of living keep rising, but families feel their incomes and wages aren’t keeping up. Special interests are given special treatment, while hard-working Americans are ignored. Working people from the heartland to the cities are struggling in a rigged economy and a system stacked against them.

Our agenda is focused on efforts to create jobs and raise incomes for American workers, to lower the cost of living for American families, and to build an economy that gives every American the tools to succeed in the 21st century.

It is an ambitious economic agenda that represents a renewed Democratic commitment to the hard-working men and women across the United States who have been left out and left behind for too long. As part of that commitment, Democrats are announcing three new proposals rooted in a bold approach to the challenges facing the United States.

First, Democrats are pledging ourselves to the goal of creating good-paying, full-time jobs for 10 million more Americans in the next five years.

It is time to ignite a new era of investment in America’s workers, empowering all Americans with the skills they need to compete in the modern economy. We are calling for a new tax credit for employers to train and hire workers at a good wage, and a massive new national commitment to expanding apprenticeships and paid on-the-job training that advances their skills and careers.


While we grow jobs, wages and the economy, Democrats know that a better deal for the American people demands strong action to tackle rising costs that are eating up families’ budgets.

Prescription drug prices are jacked up, and Americans have fewer options at increased costs. Large communications companies merge, and families see fewer options and higher bills. Agriculture giants consolidate, while farmers struggle and prices in Americans’ shopping carts rise. The price of gas goes down, but plane tickets become more expensive and airlines keep adding fees.

With this agenda, Democrats’ pledge ourselves to breaking the grip of the special interests and confronting the rising everyday costs that families have endured for too long.

That is the impetus behind our second proposal, to put economic power back into the hands of the American people, cracking down on the monopolies and big corporate mergers that harm consumers, workers and competition. We will demand that proposed mergers meet tough new standards to protect competition before approval, and will institute post-merger reviews to ensure that consolidated companies keep their promises to American consumers.


Third, Democrats will take unprecedented aggressive action to lower the cost of prescription drugs — the single largest factor driving increasing health costs in the United States today. We will leverage the power of Medicare to negotiate lower drug prices, force drug manufactures to open their books and justify cost increases, and create a strong, independent enforcement agency empowered to end outrageous and unjustified prescription drug price-gouging.

The past six months have exposed the toxic special-interest priorities at the core of the Republican agenda. The American people deserve better. With a Democratic Congress, a better deal is exactly what Democrats will give them.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
plank #1 is literally a tax credit for business owners lmao

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

quote:

We will leverage the power of Medicare to negotiate lower drug prices, force drug manufactures to open their books and justify cost increases, and create a strong, independent enforcement agency empowered to end outrageous and unjustified prescription drug price-gouging.

this would be an enormous change that would dramatically lower costs if the enforcement agency is actually aggressive, except they should also include all medical procedures as well. it's essentially a price control board

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Vox Nihili posted:

presumably out of sheer hubris

:laffo:

"presumably"

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Raskolnikov38 posted:

plank #1 is literally a tax credit for business owners lmao

Bernie needs to take the Democrats out back and ask about the rabbits

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Raskolnikov38 posted:

plank #1 is literally a tax credit for business owners lmao

I'm the breadcrumbs of planks 2 and 3

pounding-knife-and-fork-on-table.gif but instead of piss tape it says SINGLE PAYER

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

They decided to change nything but their sales pitch. How well very Democrat of them

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Taintrunner posted:

Bernie needs to take the Democrats out back and ask about the rabbits

considering bernie sanders proposed something very similar to this in his own youth jobs bill, i think he probably would support this

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Lastgirl posted:

:laffo:

"presumably"

How quickly you discount the possibility of simple incompetence...

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
also lol that $15 minimum wage has completely disappeared unless its the surprise for tomorrow's event

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Vox Nihili posted:

How quickly you discount the possibility of simple incompetence...

Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to shear stupidity

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

I'm the direct accusation that people who voted third party were the ones who elected Trump.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

docbeard posted:

You, uh, do realize that this is from Paul Ryan's House Speaker website, right? Or is he also an official arm of the Democratic Party now?

e. Aha okay lol in fairness I suspect you can find at least one DNC presentation that isn't that different
you usually can't tell the difference between a republican or democrat speaking today unless they invoke a culture war issue

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Scent of Worf posted:

i loving knew it

it's hillary's word salad from her website :roflolmao:

yet this website apparently made all the difference

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

ThndrShk2k posted:

To be honest a higher up saying it's on the table is at least a change for the better than them saying no single payer ever because we're capitalists.

Agnosticnixie posted:

Schumer still has his name on some of the worst poo poo that had dems voting for like this year. I'm still not sold on it being anything but performance to avoid a nasty primary.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Schumer could also simply be stating the obvious so that he doesn't get primaried, while not seriously pursuing anything resembling justice.

Willa Rogers posted:

what *hasn't* changed is the dems' willingness to promote popular public policy only when they're out of any kind of power to pass it. And their recruitment of blue dogs for 2018 ensures that these proposals will never ever come to pass even if dems retake congress.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

also amusing is chuck's statement that single payer is "on the table" rather than an integral part of tomorrow's policy release

Minsky
May 23, 2001

Would like to see Medicare for 55 in that plan considering how mad Hillary twitter got when Bernie tweeted support for it (because he, by agreeing, stole her idea). Seems like something to rally the party around???

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011


Bullock/Swearengen 2020. Either for the presidency or for a Deadwood reunion, I'm easy.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Just lmao if you're still on the fence about hanging every democrat consultant and lanyard from all the llamp posts on wallstreet

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

white sauce posted:

Just lmao if you're still on the fence about hanging every democrat consultant and lanyard from all the llamp posts on wallstreet

I think we should make them do hard labor for the state without pay. It can be a time-honored tradition that saves money.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

white sauce posted:

Just lmao if you're still on the fence about hanging every democrat consultant and lanyard from all the llamp posts on wallstreet

a) we've already used the lamp posts as battering rams to the wall street offices though
b) that's K Street lamp posts; you're forgetting where the lanyards are based out of

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

GalacticAcid posted:

I think we should make them do hard labor for the state without pay. It can be a time-honored tradition that saves money.

wow, now thats a pretty ingenious way of balancing the budget and reducing the deficit

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

GalacticAcid posted:

I think we should make them do hard labor for the state without pay. It can be a time-honored tradition that saves money.

Nah machines are cheaper than slaves

Crucifixion is where its at

:unsmigghh:

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

try this one on for size: duct tape 'em to the lamp posts and let them be the talking heads they purport themselves to be until they expire :unsmigghh:

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Thoguh posted:

I'm the direct accusation that people who voted third party were the ones who elected Trump.

tbf it's a dem-aligned pollster that worked for obama's campaigns

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Vox Nihili posted:

How quickly you discount the possibility of simple incompetence...

well that implies that there's no accountability because you made a poopie in your pants and want someone to wipe yer arse with~

i dont wanna have to wipe abuela's poopies using socialism as toilet paper now do i

in fact, the socialism should be a platform but oh god the poopies, its just too big and we need everything we can to wipe with it

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
What if these are the most exciting ideas they can think of? What if they're practically ejaculating at the idea of an employer tax credit to offer job training? What if they had to change their pants after they said they were gonna make mergers harder?

Is it better or worse?

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
What if we gave tax credits for racism

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Lessail posted:

What if we gave tax credits for racism

finally, a solution to solve racism

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Lastgirl posted:

well that implies that there's no accountability because you made a poopie in your pants and want someone to wipe yer arse with~

i dont wanna have to wipe abuela's poopies using socialism as toilet paper now do i

in fact, the socialism should be a platform but oh god the poopies, its just too big and we need everything we can to wipe with it

Correct, there is zero accountability. None of these people can or will be held accountable. Our democracy is a transparent sham, party "democratic" practices e.g. primaries triply so.

Vox Nihili has issued a correction as of 03:42 on Jul 24, 2017

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