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Concerned Citizen posted:well 1. it would be a surprise if construction hit parity with "all industries" given it's a blue collar job and 2. the growth is uneven, not everywhere has a job shortage so the overall national raises are only 2% higher than the broader economy You're single-handedly making this D&D with your bad data and even worse opinions.
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call to action posted:Are you loving retarded? It was outpacing all industries IN THE GRAPH YOU QUOTED until 2012!! during one of the most outrageous housing bubbles ever
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docbeard posted:These are the days of miracle and wonder and don't cry, baby, don't cry, don't cry
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Concerned Citizen posted:well 1. it would be a surprise if construction hit parity with "all industries" given it's a blue collar job and 2. the growth is uneven, not everywhere has a job shortage so the overall national raises are only 2% higher than the broader economy. in some places the rate is of wage increase is double digits and others it is zero. more importantly the shortage is recent and will accelerate in the short term, as the article notes: what does blue collar job have to do with wage growth CC? do you believe the white collar should be allowed to grow richer and richer than blue collar workers?
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Concerned Citizen posted:during one of the most outrageous housing bubbles ever So you're saying that wages increase when supply is tight, and wages are lower now because there's no labor shortage. Glad you came around.
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construction huh? if only we had a way to produce more construction jobs? like some sort of administration for work projects 🤔
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whoa at CC pulling an Al! (or was it Al!??? i forgot)
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Agean90 posted:construction huh? if only we had a way to produce more construction jobs? like some sort of administration for work projects 🤔 roads straight into hell (iowa)
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I'm actually kind of shocked no one in my Facebook feed has said a single word about the new platform, either for or against from either direction
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loquacius posted:I'm actually kind of shocked no one in my Facebook feed has said a single word about the new platform, either for or against from either direction the dems are so worthless very few people have probably even heard of this revolutionary better deal
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logikv9 posted:roads straight into hell (iowa) but roads also leading out!!!
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I tweeted at schumer that his #betterdeal is a wet fart. Eat poo poo crusty olds I'm a heckraiser speaking truth to power
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loquacius posted:I'm actually kind of shocked no one in my Facebook feed has said a single word about the new platform, either for or against from either direction I'm not convinced a single person who doesn't read this thread is aware it exists.
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"better deal? wasn't that when the democrats were going into pizza delivery?"
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Agean90 posted:but roads also leading out!!! the only cars allowed out are hearses
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logikv9 posted:the only cars allowed out are hearses all American made too so we stimulate the automotive industry as well.
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i got a jobs proposal. employ all the useless millenials towards developing self-driving hearses, so when a boomer dies s/he can continue to kill millenials with their sleek vehicular frame for all eternity
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:I tweeted at schumer that his #betterdeal is a wet fart. Eat poo poo crusty olds I'm a heckraiser speaking truth to power  never believe his lies
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better skills, better wages, comet ping pong
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loquacius posted:I'm actually kind of shocked no one in my Facebook feed has said a single word about the new platform, either for or against from either direction have the Dems even revealed it anywhere outside of WaPo and NYT op-eds? it seemed like they were supposed to be announcing it at some kind of event or something, but I haven't seen a thing about that
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call to action posted:"Every Man a King" is a highly problematic phrase because it acknowledges and thus endorses the notion of power dynamics ("king" vs "ruled"), a topic that is inherently gendered and thus sexual Macron America great again
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Condiv posted:what does blue collar job have to do with wage growth CC? do you believe the white collar should be allowed to grow richer and richer than blue collar workers? well it's not wage growth, it's average wages. blue collar work tends to pay less than white collar work. that is not a value statement as to which should pay better. construction work isn't bad but it generally pays worse than salaried work. call to action posted:So you're saying that wages increase when supply is tight, and wages are lower now because there's no labor shortage. Glad you came around. again from nahb: 
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what's the point of a staggered news release when you build no hype? aren't the dems regularly interacting with people who are paid megamillions to figure this poo poo out?
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Concerned Citizen posted:well it's not wage growth, it's average wages. blue collar work tends to pay less than white collar work. that is not a value statement as to which should pay better. construction work isn't bad but it generally pays worse than salaried work. if their wages are lower than normal and don't seem to be overtaking average wages at all, how is this a high-growth field according to you?
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Condiv posted:what's the point of a staggered news release when you build no hype? aren't the dems regularly interacting with people who are paid megamillions to figure this poo poo out? if you give people something new to hate every day, they'll forget what they hated the day before
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Condiv posted:if their wages are lower than normal and don't seem to be overtaking average wages at all, how is this a high-growth field according to you? in fact, wage growth is higher than the economy at large and in some places (texas, georgia) it is 30%+. in particular among skilled labor there is a shortage that will likely grow as home construction continues to accelerate.
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Condiv posted:the dems are so worthless very few people have probably even heard of this revolutionary better deal This. Maybe if Bernie did, it might get some press but no one other than the die hard dems give a poo poo about what Chuck Schumer has to say.
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Oh Snapple! posted:if you give people something new to hate every day, they'll forget what they hated the day before but they're just giving themselves every day  Concerned Citizen posted:in fact, wage growth is higher than the economy at large and in some places (texas, georgia) it is 30%+. in particular among skilled labor there is a shortage that will likely grow as home construction continues to accelerate. so it's growing some in some areas, but there is nowhere near high growth in the field since wages on the whole are still way depressed.
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Frijolero posted:"Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are prominent but cancel one another out somewhat as they both seek to be the leader of the liberal wing of the party." only the finest political analysis from cillizza
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Construction is one of the most dangerous jobs there is in regards to accidents and just general health impact because it is outdoors and physically taxing, requires high levels of skill, and doesn't pay as well as it should because it's "blue collar." Is the problem here really lack of access to training? It still sounds to me like the problem is the wages, even if they are rising.
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loquacius posted:I'm actually kind of shocked no one in my Facebook feed has said a single word about the new platform, either for or against from either direction Who the hell believes those retards are going to win anything in 2018 or 2020? this is now a one party state lmao
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if there was a shortage of workers, businesses would be willing to train them themselves regardless of tax cuts but to get to that state would mean wages would rise, and dems would hate that!!!
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it is your duty as an american to vote all republican in 2020. let's make trump blow kamala harris the gently caress out!!
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Chuck Schumer has always firmly supported government-sponsored construction of illegal settlements in the West Bank
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No people are totally going to "train" the migrant laborers/slaves that are used to build most residential construction projects, trust us
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Strong wind destroy our home Many dead, tonight it could be you
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has this atrocity been posted here https://twitter.com/joss/status/888836492696723457/photo/1
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Construction is one of the most dangerous jobs there is, requires high levels of skill, and doesn't pay as well as it should because it's "blue collar." well it's both. obviously we need to raise the minimum wage and make sure people are getting paid what they are worth. but as far as this goes, the reality is that one big obstacle to class mobility is the lack of access to economically viable training. if a person wants to learn a skill without such a program, they have to pay for their own education which is not a viable option for many unemployed. the commodification of education has hit the working class hard. subsidized apprenticeships/on-the-job training is a popular approach because it's ideal for the worker and employer - the worker gets paid to learn a new trade, the employer gets additional workers without having to pay for the risk of the employee not working out. in the perfect world, anyone who wanted to change their career could, at the drop of a hat, switch and get guaranteed pay while learning new skills. that's not realistic but a step toward that will help prevent people from getting trapped in dead-end jobs. it's hardly something that solves every problem and it should be only one part of a much broader stimulus program, but it's not a bad thing.
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