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nm posted:Define normal For people about the take the bar
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Jul 24, 2017 02:52
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Sure, normal for bar failers You'll do fine
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Jul 24, 2017 03:17
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Pook Good Mook posted:Are mood swings from somewhat confident to the pits of despair and back again several times per hour normal? Now you are thinking like a real lawyer!
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Jul 24, 2017 03:35
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Roger_Mudd posted:Now you are thinking like a real lawyer! Good news, my girlfriend said her Uncle can get me a job in his company installing wiring and HVAC in large construction projects in Vegas if I fail. So I got that going for me. Which is nice.
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Jul 24, 2017 03:39
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Pook Good Mook posted:Good news, my girlfriend said her Uncle can get me a job in his company installing wiring and HVAC in large construction projects in Vegas if I fail. You should probably try to fail if it is union.
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Jul 24, 2017 03:49
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Pook Good Mook posted:Are mood swings from somewhat confident to the pits of despair and back again several times per hour normal? Yes, but don't worry, everything gets better once you start working as an attorney.
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Jul 24, 2017 04:13
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SlyFrog posted:Yes, but don't worry, everything gets better once you start working as an attorney. Hasn't lost his sense of humor. Respect. Last full day of studying done, poured a high west double rye. Might look at some things tomorrow. On the other hand, might just lay on the couch and hit the gym.
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Jul 24, 2017 04:46
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Good luck to everyone who prepared you're gonna do great. If anyone else half assed if like me and is taking it on two weeks of prep,   My buddy i'm crashing with in st pete has a pool and jacuzzi so it'll be an alright time winging it regardless.
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Jul 24, 2017 13:43
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Pook Good Mook posted:Good news, my girlfriend said her Uncle can get me a job in his company installing wiring and HVAC in large construction projects in Vegas if I fail. Do this. Get licensed. Make bank.
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Jul 24, 2017 14:59
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nm posted:You should probably try to fail if it is union. This is the correct answer.
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Jul 24, 2017 16:45
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Pook Good Mook posted:Good news, my girlfriend said her Uncle can get me a job in his company installing wiring and HVAC in large construction projects in Vegas if I fail. You will probably make more money, have better working conditions, higher job satisfaction, and a better work-life balance working a skilled trade like that than as a lawyer. Hth.
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Jul 24, 2017 18:36
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Guys, I had 5 trials coming up in the next three months, and in the last 2 weeks I settled them all and now I have literally nothing to do. I called a guy about a dryer vent on my client's house.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:01
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blarzgh posted:Guys, I had 5 trials coming up in the next three months, and in the last 2 weeks I settled them all and now I have literally nothing to do. Sounds like someone isn't going to make billables.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:10
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blarzgh posted:Guys, I had 5 trials coming up in the next three months, and in the last 2 weeks I settled them all and now I have literally nothing to do. Dude. There is a reason we settle right before trial.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:28
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nm posted:Sounds like someone isn't going to make billables. Thanks to some hard running the first 5 months of the year, I'm not worried about it.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:54
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blarzgh posted:Thanks to some hard running the first 5 months of the year, I'm not worried about it. "Wait, what month is it now??" Oh yeah, it's July-- almost August, the bar is tomorrow. Holy poo poo.
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Jul 24, 2017 20:03
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blarzgh posted:Guys, I had 5 trials coming up in the next three months, and in the last 2 weeks I settled them all and now I have literally nothing to do. I'm actually gearing up for a big one in Dallas in September. Actually having to work. Your local probate judge (and jury) wrecked my office last week though to the tune of 1.5m. It's nice to be busy to be honest. Only so many bills I can collect and lives I can ruin before I'm ready for litigation again.
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Jul 24, 2017 20:35
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Lol Texas procedure and evidence "most examinees that answered incorrectly just did not know the law"
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Jul 24, 2017 20:48
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disjoe posted:Lol Texas procedure and evidence Yeah gotta actually know the substance on that one. Texas has a short answer exam on day one. Like 3 lines per answer asking substantive procedural and evidence questions. Like "what is the proper objection and why".
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Jul 24, 2017 20:59
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I'm actually gearing up for a big one in Dallas in September. Actually having to work. Your local probate judge (and jury) wrecked my office last week though to the tune of 1.5m. What was the Commissioner's award?!?
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Jul 24, 2017 22:18
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disjoe posted:Lol Texas procedure and evidence sounds like they're absolutely ready to join the bar and will fit right in
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Jul 24, 2017 23:04
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So I discovered that California attorneys can order a video game on juvenile dependency. If you complete it you get 2 hours of MCLE credit. "Designed to provide attorneys with a virtual idea of what it is like to function as an attorney who represents parents and children in juvenile dependency cases. This day-in-the-life experience takes the user through three levels: the Interview room, the Courtroom and the Office. At each level, the attorney is met with challenges typically faced by attorneys each day. Depending upon a player's answers and choices, the player can earn points, be promoted or burn out and quit."
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Jul 24, 2017 23:15
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You used to be able to get mcle credits for traffic school. I'm now mcle exempt though, so I don't care.
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Jul 24, 2017 23:57
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Eminent Domain posted:Depending upon a player's answers and choices, the player can earn points, be promoted or burn out and quit." Is it like the game teaches legal triage, where if you do a really complete job, it'll decide you did too much and you're going to burn out?
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Jul 25, 2017 00:08
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I have no idea, I'll report back once I receive my copy because I am way too curious now.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:11
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joat mon posted:What do you have to do to burn out? I hope it's like Papers, Please where after a certain level you just hope the paperwork is right because there's too much of it to look at correctly. Periodically, your fax machine begins humming and it's the court telling you they're fining you because you hosed up too many times. If you don't complete enough cases you family starves and/or freezes to death. Actually, come to think of it you wouldn't even need to change that many graphics to turn it into a court appointed case simulator.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:35
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blarzgh posted:What was the Commissioner's award?!? No clue. Presumably much lower. It was over the shopping center at 35 and the PGBT. I'm covering a case in Galveston on Wednesday with a 2m gap and 1 day to prep. And my knee is still hosed up enough that I can't even go to the beach. But at least I'm not taking the bar.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:59
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GamingHyena posted:I hope it's like Papers, Please where after a certain level you just hope the paperwork is right because there's too much of it to look at correctly. Periodically, your fax machine begins humming and it's the court telling you they're fining you because you hosed up too many times. If you don't complete enough cases you family starves and/or freezes to death. Do you: *Persuade your client to take the generous plea offer *Threaten your client that you will withdraw from the case if he doesn't take the plea offer *Tell your client to ignore the plea offer and go to trial ------ Your client has rejected your attempt to persuade him to take the generous plea offer, stating that the video and fingerprints are forgeries, and his signed confession should be invalid because he was high at the time. Do you: *Go to trial *Attempt to withdraw from the case *File a completely bullshit motion in an attempt to buy time or have the prosecutor get bored, but risk sanctions -------- You have decided to go to trial. The court informs you that you have exceeded the fee cap for court-appointed cases, and it will no longer pay any additional billing. Also, your client has attacked someone while incarcerated, and faces additional charges. The power has been cut off in your apartment, and winter is coming. Do you: *Giggle, then cry *Seek solace in whiskey, your only friend *Start a small fire in your apartment using the stack of student loan bills on your desk ------- You and whiskey have a grand evening, and getting physically thrown out of the strip club was totally a case of mistaken identity. Your inability to pay the electrical bill has caused your family to freeze to death. Your score for this round: 207. Restart: Y/N?
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Jul 25, 2017 01:59
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In two weeks I have a evidentiary discipline hearing and 12 hearings that decide if we will proceed with the disciplinary process or not. (I'm on the grievance panel). I'm mad with power. Go to law school, pass the bar, get disbarred by a goon.
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Jul 25, 2017 03:00
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Good luck to everyone taking the bar this week. I hope you all fail so you have a chance at a happy fulfilling career and life unlike the rest of the thread.
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Jul 25, 2017 14:10
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Good luck you poor dumb fuckers!
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Jul 25, 2017 14:30
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:No clue. Presumably much lower. It was over the shopping center at 35 and the PGBT. Nothing in Galveston is worth 2 million dollars. (Put this in your opening.)
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Jul 25, 2017 16:55
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Edit: ^^^ what about Speedy Moving Co? What powers do I have to get the emails posted? Subpoenas? Contempt of Thread charges? Collective Shaming?
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Jul 25, 2017 17:56
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Day 1 of 3 in the books. Thought it went well. Softest froze on me but it was during the procedure/evidence questions and not the MPT so no harm. Here's so hoping that doesn't happen again on Thursday during the essays.
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Jul 25, 2017 20:02
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Lots of people pissed at the FL bar as 2 of the 3 essay exams covered poo poo that is rarely ever covered on essays. Namely one question dealt with nothing but secured transactions and commercial paper while another was entirely about parental rights following abandoning a baby at a fire station. There were zero questions that covered hearsay and i'm not even sure there was a single evidence question at all in the MC.
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Jul 25, 2017 22:10
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Question for anyone here in the know: Does anyone know or have heard of someone who "read the law" and is now a lawyer? I just found out the state I live in is one of the few states that allows this. From what I understand, reading the law is when you work under and are mentored by a lawyer, and after x amount of time, you are allowed to take the bar without taking the traditional route of going to law school. This sounds interesting, and I was wondering how common it actually is, especially today. From what I read in the OP, it sounds like lawyer culture would be pretty dismissive of someone who got their license this way.
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Jul 25, 2017 22:18
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crack mayor posted:Question for anyone here in the know: Does anyone know or have heard of someone who "read the law" and is now a lawyer? I just found out the state I live in is one of the few states that allows this. From what I understand, reading the law is when you work under and are mentored by a lawyer, and after x amount of time, you are allowed to take the bar without taking the traditional route of going to law school. This sounds interesting, and I was wondering how common it actually is, especially today. From what I read in the OP, it sounds like lawyer culture would be pretty dismissive of someone who got their license this way. If I remember correctly there are very few states that allow this anymore.
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Jul 25, 2017 22:39
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Survived day 1/3 of the NY+MA bars. Walked out feeling like nothing was a disaster, and pretty good about some parts. I'll take it.
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crack mayor posted:Question for anyone here in the know: Does anyone know or have heard of someone who "read the law" and is now a lawyer? I just found out the state I live in is one of the few states that allows this. From what I understand, reading the law is when you work under and are mentored by a lawyer, and after x amount of time, you are allowed to take the bar without taking the traditional route of going to law school. This sounds interesting, and I was wondering how common it actually is, especially today. From what I read in the OP, it sounds like lawyer culture would be pretty dismissive of someone who got their license this way. I did, as HDD91 enjoys pointing out. I clerked for Henry deBracton though, so your leagueage may vary. CA, VA, VT and WA allow it in various (restricted) forms.
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