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LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Jeoh posted:

yeah chinese doxxing was really impressive back in the day

with everything we've seen in this thread, does it really count as 'impressive' or 'doxxing' when a guy with long pinky nails and hairs growing out of a mole on his neck posts on the internet "Hey that guy in the photo is my neighbor, here's his name and address"

its basically just "throw a lot of bodies at a problem because thats the only resource"

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Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Krinkle posted:

Gonna need to know what taisetsu and obah mean.

Hit the brake, I'm scared.

lol though, you made a japanese, then korean word trying to romanize chinese

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I didn't know splitting checks is some sort of radical new technology. I have been doing it since forever here in NZ. Any restaurant that doesn't do it they are throwing away customers. These days they all assume you are splitting it unless told otherwise.

Sending money through apps has also been around for ages. You can almost do everything in the app/website that you can do at the bank.

We do have things like Apple pay but that is mostly redundant as you have wireless EFTPOS cards that work through your wallet and the bank doesn't charge you anything for it.

Once again China is behind the curve. They only difference is that they have consolidated some things into one app, but lol at having a single point of failure.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Also consolidating poo poo into one app is less a product of innovation and more a product of a monopoly. The West already went through its "lets put everything into one program" phase back in the 90's

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
How most other people in the world knock on a friend's door:
>Using the knuckles, knock on the door a few times.
>Wait a few seconds.
>Knock a few more times.
>If no answer, maybe leave or call your friend.

How Mainlanders knock on doors:
>Using an open palm, or the underside of a fist, bang on the door as loudly and hard as possible.
>Scream the person's name while banging on the door.
>Whatever happens, do no stop banging on the door and screaming.
>Start jiggling the door handle, seeing if the door is not locked.
>If no answer, pause for a moment to sent Wechat messages.
>Immediately continue banging on the door, screaming the person's name, and jiggling the door handle.
>Do this for 20 or 30 minutes until you used up your entire day's worth of energy, and need to go have a rest or eat.
>Extra face points if you do this at 3am.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fojar38 posted:

Also consolidating poo poo into one app is less a product of innovation and more a product of a monopoly. The West already went through its "lets put everything into one program" phase back in the 90's

There have been stories (Likely Haier) where you have a giant line at a convenience store with people taking a long time opening their apps trying to pay for 5 RMB items instead of slapping down cash so they can finish the transaction in 15 seconds.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Haier posted:

How most other people in the world knock on a friend's door:
>Using the knuckles, knock on the door a few times.
>Wait a few seconds.
>Knock a few more times.
>If no answer, maybe leave or call your friend.

How Mainlanders knock on doors:
>Using an open palm, or the underside of a fist, bang on the door as loudly and hard as possible.
>Scream the person's name while banging on the door.
>Whatever happens, do no stop banging on the door and screaming.
>Start jiggling the door handle, seeing if the door is not locked.
>If no answer, pause for a moment to sent Wechat messages.
>Immediately continue banging on the door, screaming the person's name, and jiggling the door handle.
>Do this for 20 or 30 minutes until you used up your entire day's worth of energy, and need to go have a rest or eat.
>Extra face points if you do this at 3am.

I literally can't believe that a significant amount of people in a culture will do poo poo like this. Can you take some footage of this? Please let us buy you a GoPro. The Haier show.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Knocking is one of the more bizarre things here. Koreans do the same thing. Bang on the door screaming like a maniac, wait .25 seconds, bang again, wait .25, bang bang bang. The real pros will bang on your door like a psycho for like 15 seconds straight, then vanish by the time you actually get to the peephole. Everyone acts like the person in the apartment just sits on a stool right next to the door waiting for someone to knock, and if they don't get an answer immediately they go nuts.

Trammel
Dec 31, 2007
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Fojar38 posted:

Also consolidating poo poo into one app is less a product of innovation and more a product of a monopoly. The West already went through its "lets put everything into one program" phase back in the 90's

If you removed the restrictions on competition, WeChat would still dominate in China purely through Network Effects. Messaging apps are hugely valued (by their users) based on the people they know are connected, and each apps popularity typically varies depending on country and language

Aggregation Theory also helps explain how owning the customer for 66 minutes a day, in addition to holding money & bank cards, makes it such a valuable platform. The government assistance was essential in the beginning, but the combination of Network Effect and Aggregation means that it's unlikely to be displaced by market forces in the foreseeable future.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Haier posted:

How most other people in the world knock on a friend's door:
>Using the knuckles, knock on the door a few times.
>Wait a few seconds.
>Knock a few more times.
>If no answer, maybe leave or call your friend.

How Mainlanders knock on doors:
>Using an open palm, or the underside of a fist, bang on the door as loudly and hard as possible.
>Scream the person's name while banging on the door.
>Whatever happens, do no stop banging on the door and screaming.
>Start jiggling the door handle, seeing if the door is not locked.
>If no answer, pause for a moment to sent Wechat messages.
>Immediately continue banging on the door, screaming the person's name, and jiggling the door handle.
>Do this for 20 or 30 minutes until you used up your entire day's worth of energy, and need to go have a rest or eat.
>Extra face points if you do this at 3am.

I can't believe this, I really want you to film all this, daily video blogs or something. Yet I can believe it because in the seniors-only apartment my office is in there's an old chinese lady who comes to visit her friend every week or so and she does the same thing every time:
-Strains her eyes to read her friend's buzzer number and then seemingly angrily PUNCH the number in as hard as she can on the keypad.
-Waits for maybe 2 rings then walks away from the buzzer and starts screaming up at the building calling her friend.
-Her friend by this point has reached the phone and picks up, says hello, does not get a reply back in .5 seconds so starts to yell into the phone (which has a very loud loudspeaker due to olds)
-Visiting lady then walks back to the phone (while yelling of course) , by this point it has timed out and calls again, this time generally getting an answer and after some yelling back and forth is buzzed in.
-Sometimes her resident friend hangs up without successfully buzzing her in so the scene repeats.

The building gets all sorts of visitors every day, I don't hear any of them from my office, but the whole courtyard knows every time this old lady visits.

Trammel
Dec 31, 2007
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Fojar38 posted:

The West already went through its "lets put everything into one program" phase back in the 90's

Weirdly, according to recent statistics, the average person in the US regularly uses less (but presumably larger) apps on their smartphone than a person in China.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible

Haier posted:

How most other people in the world knock on a friend's door:
>Wait a few seconds.

How Mainlanders knock on doors:

It loving infuriates me that nobody ever takes a few-second pause for confirmation. This applies to knocking, ringing doorbells, and telephone calls.

When I get a food delivery in the evenings the guy will hammer the doorbell over and over and 1-2 times will shout DELIVERY over the sound of the doorbell while I'm trying to sprint to the door so he'll shut up. Then again maybe it's because most households keep their TVs at full volume all evening and this is the only way anyone will notice someone is at the door.

The one that fucks me up the most is the phone calls, mainly my coworkers in an office. Someone will leave their desk (maybe to the restroom) and they'll get a call. The phone will sit there ringing at full volume for like 90 seconds until it times out, and then 5-10 seconds later it starts ringing again. The person calling will usually try 3-4 times total before giving up, so we're looking at 4-6 solid minutes of ringtone shitmusic unless you're an alpha that will go throw a jacket over someone's phone or throw it in their drawer until they get back.



Outrail posted:

I literally can't believe that a significant amount of people in a culture will do poo poo like this. Can you take some footage of this? Please let us buy you a GoPro. The Haier show.

The hammering a door definitely happens - I've only had people try the doorknob at one of my apartments. My current place has a second "security gate" style door a couple of steps from the real door so that might be why I haven't seen it happen in a while.

Trammel
Dec 31, 2007
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LentThem posted:

The one that fucks me up the most is the phone calls, mainly my coworkers in an office. Someone will leave their desk (maybe to the restroom) and they'll get a call. The phone will sit there ringing at full volume for like 90 seconds until it times out, and then 5-10 seconds later it starts ringing again.

It's usually a delivery. If you're having a meeting with 10 people, you can't get through an hour without at least two people receiving phone calls, and the whole meeting getting to listen to the same shouted half-conversation:

"wei?"
"kuaidi ma?"
"dui! dui! dui! dui!"
"xiao deng, xiao deng"

and the person stands up, walks out of the room, then returns with a large box, and returns to playing with their phone or falling asleep in front of the client.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


LentThem posted:

The one that fucks me up the most is the phone calls, mainly my coworkers in an office. Someone will leave their desk (maybe to the restroom) and they'll get a call. The phone will sit there ringing at full volume for like 90 seconds until it times out, and then 5-10 seconds later it starts ringing again. The person calling will usually try 3-4 times total before giving up, so we're looking at 4-6 solid minutes of ringtone shitmusic unless you're an alpha that will go throw a jacket over someone's phone or throw it in their drawer until they get back.

My record is someone calling me 11 times in a row.

It was a delivery guy. My building has these neat delivery lockers in the lobby, the delivery person puts the box in the locker and then it texts me a passcode I use to get the package later. It's a super convenient system that works great, one of the occasional instances of such in China. For some reason, the delivery guys still insist on calling repeatedly.

This genius, after the 11 calls I ignored, then put the package in the locker. Then called again, three times, then sent me a text saying he put the package in the locker. The locker with the computer that notified me automatically already.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

oohhboy posted:

I didn't know splitting checks is some sort of radical new technology. I have been doing it since forever here in NZ. Any restaurant that doesn't do it they are throwing away customers. These days they all assume you are splitting it unless told otherwise.

Sending money through apps has also been around for ages. You can almost do everything in the app/website that you can do at the bank.

We do have things like Apple pay but that is mostly redundant as you have wireless EFTPOS cards that work through your wallet and the bank doesn't charge you anything for it.

Once again China is behind the curve. They only difference is that they have consolidated some things into one app, but lol at having a single point of failure.
Splitting checks is nothing new anywhere but it's the ease of it that's the thing. In Sweden very few people used cash ten years ago and everyone had debit/credit -cards but if you're out having dinner with ten people you still have to have ten people separately paying for their meal. Now we have Swish that's linked to your bank account and cell phone number and you basically press a button to send money to anyone else and they'll instantly have it in their account. Huge improvement. And WeChat is like that. It's just that China skipped the debit/credit-card phase.

It may not be very innovative but it's incredibly convenient. The whole monopoly/surveillance issue is another and more serious thing of course.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Haier posted:

How Mainlanders knock on doors:

Or not knock on the door. Last place I was living in China the cleaning lady (her job was the clean all the common areas and before/after people moved in/out of units) would walk into my apartment totally unannounced. One time I was just watching television and cooking lunch on a Saturday and she just opened the door, stuck her head in and then closed it. I chalked it up to her having the wrong unit, but a week later she walked all the way in while I was quietly surfing the forums. I hear one of the drawers open in the kitchen and some out and yell, "你在做什么" (what are you doing?). She just slowly turned around and walked out. I talked to the school the next day and told them that the cleaning lady was coming into my apartment unannounced and they had a talk with her (or so they said). I think I might have told this story before, but long story short I kept changing the locks on her after I found out she was going into my place when I was at work.

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
My apartment block has a door you have to enter a code to open, you get random people on the intercom all the time since they just mash the buttons and call any apartment to get someone to open the door for them. You also need a key fob thing to open the gate into our neighbourhood and about 95% of the people who live here will just stand and scream until the baoan comes and opens it for them rather than taking their keys out of their pockets.

Some nights a kid comes to our building and just screams, kicks the door and shakes it as hard as he can until his friend lets him in.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


A few months back they replaced our gate with one that actually locks unless you have your gate card. Previously it was a lovely one you just shoved open. I have never seen anyone but me use the card, they just stand at the gate and scream. They didn't change the cards or anything, it's the same one I got when I moved in.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Why should you exert effort when someone else can do it for you

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Grand Fromage posted:

My record is someone calling me 11 times in a row.

A slightly insane woman at one of the Korean universities I worked at would call from her cel until it timed out (after a full minute of ringing), immediately call again until that timed out, then call from the office line two or three times. all in all, like 5 minutes of constant ringing. I went off on her one time, and told her "listen, if I don't answer the loving phone it's because I'm busy. it doesn't mean keep loving calling me. Jesus" She was baffled that a constantly ringing phone in the middle of class or something would upset me.

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009

Grand Fromage posted:

A few months back they replaced our gate with one that actually locks unless you have your gate card. Previously it was a lovely one you just shoved open. I have never seen anyone but me use the card, they just stand at the gate and scream. They didn't change the cards or anything, it's the same one I got when I moved in.

The one here you used to only need the key fob to get in, there was a button you could press to get out. Then about a month ago they changed it so you also had to use the key fob to get out too which has caused chaos with people all trying to shove through from both directions like they do here when the gate is finally opened.

Oh and the best thing is that the gate is in a bit of a dip, so when it rains there is a massive puddle the that it's right in the middle of. The baoans just throw some old bricks down as stepping stones but they are small and not very stable, its fun to watch people try and navigate this before the gate closes on them and knocks them off, its like watching wipeout.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


ladron posted:

A slightly insane woman at one of the Korean universities I worked at would call from her cel until it timed out (after a full minute of ringing), immediately call again until that timed out, then call from the office line two or three times. all in all, like 5 minutes of constant ringing. I went off on her one time, and told her "listen, if I don't answer the loving phone it's because I'm busy. it doesn't mean keep loving calling me. Jesus" She was baffled that a constantly ringing phone in the middle of class or something would upset me.

That's the other thing with the delivery guys. It's always like noon on a Tuesday. Why would you think I'm at home?

I would at least understand if my apartment building did not have two sets of delivery lockers AND a mail room with a dude napping in it. There is no circumstance where you, delivery guy, need to speak to me.

Also those jobs don't pay well, so it's always some dude from the countryside who speaks a bizarre fangyan or straight Sichuanhua at 1000 words per minute and I can't understand at all. Since I don't want to talk to him I just speak English and hang up. Then he calls back immediately and I'm like well, I didn't learn Western Mountain Hakka in the past three seconds so I don't know what the plan here is.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
In the States I think most people still pay with credit cards but every restaurant I was at this summer had no issue giving every member of a party a separate bill just running every card.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Oh man yes. A lot of delivery guys come through my office and all of them have some kind of thick-rear end accent and none of them have all their teeth. The second part is weirder because Taiwan has an NHS.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40705752

Chengdu goons, have you considered a relaxing outing to the orphan fights?

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Pirate Radar posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40705752

Chengdu goons, have you considered a relaxing outing to the orphan fights?

loving china...

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Bet you half the month that the major screech won't be that it's an orphan fight club, but that having them learn MMA makes the country lose face.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
one time a delivery guy did a cool move where he didnt knock and instead just reached through the bars of my security door and flipped the latch to open it (this works everywhere in the city but most people dont seem to realize it) and left this heavy, knee-high package in the space between my two doors before shutting it again and never called me or anything.

Since my inner door opens outward, I tried to go shopping around 10:30am and realized that my front door was mysteriously wedged shut. I ended up having to strain my arm through the crack to pop open the latch on the outer door and then lift the bottom of the box one-handed just enough to get it over the doorframe.

If someone really wanted to kill me in a fire it would be super easy

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

LentThem posted:

If someone really wanted to kill me in a fire it would be super easy

noted

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
I had 8 missed calls from a food delivery guy. Finally answered the 8th time - it was literally to tell me my food would be delivered in 10 minutes (as per the predicted delivery time).

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
I've never had a delivery guy call me, I only order food though, my girlfriend does all the taobao stuff. The other day I had a food delivery guy show up and he told me he went to the wrong house and couldn't find my place (its not hard to find) but he could barely speak he was laughing so much. He didn't try calling to get directions or anything.

We are leaving China tomorrow so we've been selling all our stuff, some guy keeps showing up to buy one or two things at a time since he just has an ebike and cant carry much. He just came and my girlfriend gave he a load of stuff we haven't managed to sell and now he is trying to carry it all down the stairs in one go, I offered to help but he insisted he carry it all himself. Every floor we hear him dropping things, pretty sure he's going to crash on the way home.

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!

Haier posted:

As someone who really enjoyed most of his last album, I am not sure what's so offensive about him or his lyrics compared to the local and Korean garbage they play endlessly, causing the government to try to fight back against standardizing boys fashion as waifish and effeminate.


He went to yasukuni awhile back and posted a bunch of selfies of him hanging out there. Paying respects to war criminals tends to have that effect on a nation who is still butthurt over losing a war.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Food delivery guys usually are good at just showing up. I had one who could not read a loving map or addresses a few weeks ago though, took nearly a dozen calls including four after I went outside and told him to look for the only white person in the entire neighborhood.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

LentThem posted:

The one that fucks me up the most is the phone calls, mainly my coworkers in an office. Someone will leave their desk (maybe to the restroom) and they'll get a call. The phone will sit there ringing at full volume for like 90 seconds until it times out, and then 5-10 seconds later it starts ringing again. The person calling will usually try 3-4 times total before giving up, so we're looking at 4-6 solid minutes of ringtone shitmusic unless you're an alpha that will go throw a jacket over someone's phone or throw it in their drawer until they get back.
Fortunately both ios and Android lets you adjust the ringer volume without unlocking it, so just go turn it down to vibrate only. I do that to anyone who leaves their phone on their desk in my office.

Alternatively chuck it out the window and convince the person that "No, you really did take it with you when you left for your meeting."

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Grand Fromage posted:

Food delivery guys usually are good at just showing up. I had one who could not read a loving map or addresses a few weeks ago though, took nearly a dozen calls including four after I went outside and told him to look for the only white person in the entire neighborhood.

thats racist!!!

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Pirate Radar posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-40705752

Chengdu goons, have you considered a relaxing outing to the orphan fights?

On the bright side, you might get to see a 12 yo beating the living poo poo out of one of the great classic martial art masters.

Vapor Moon
Feb 24, 2010

Neato!
The Human Font

snergle posted:

He went to yasukuni awhile back and posted a bunch of selfies of him hanging out there. Paying respects to war criminals tends to have that effect on a nation who is still butthurt over losing a war.

He wasn't 'paying respects to war criminals' they came across a nice looking shrine and took some photos not knowing what it was for.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Atlas Hugged posted:

In the States I think most people still pay with credit cards but every restaurant I was at this summer had no issue giving every member of a party a separate bill just running every card.

That's not a problem in any country basically. It's just that if you're fifteen people splitting a bill it's going to take a pretty long time. If you can instantly transfer money only on person has to pay.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

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Oct 21, 2008

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