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mycophobia
May 7, 2008

mariooncrack posted:

I remember having a lot of fun with Sunset Riders on SNES. Never played the Genesis version.

that's cuz genesis version SUCKS!!!! also wtf I was literally about to start playing Sunset Riders on my SNES. solo of course.

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In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Been playing Ace Combat 4 today, I guess I'm already close to the end. It feels really really good but I'm looking forward to playing the newer ones with analog triggers that aren't R1/L1

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Ace Combat 4's ironically probably the weakest game in the franchise. AC5 and 0 are really good though.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Wizgot posted:

What are the best 2-player games on the SNES and Genesis?

Herzog Zwei and General Chaos (genesis) and Zombies Ate My Neighbors (SNES or Genesis) are my personal favorites.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Elliotw2 posted:

Ace Combat 4's ironically probably the weakest game in the franchise. AC5 and 0 are really good though.

The only other one I've played was 2, which, while enjoyable as a arcade shooter, got old pretty quick. The mission design in 4 is generally pretty great, except for the occasional overly long score attack mission

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Elliotw2 posted:

Ace Combat 4's ironically probably the weakest game in the franchise. AC5 and 0 are really good though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU This song is way way way too good for a videogame about airplanes

In Training posted:

Been playing Ace Combat 4 today, I guess I'm already close to the end. It feels really really good but I'm looking forward to playing the newer ones with analog triggers that aren't R1/L1

4 sucks and 5 and 0 are amazing.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

What do you think is the best Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game on NES, and in general?

I go with Manhattan Project, but the arcade ports on NES and SNES are cool too! Hyperstone Heist on Genesis looks pretty cool, haven't played that one.

And how cool is T&C Surf Designs: Wood & Water rage? Best skateboard game ever I believe.

al-azad posted:

Herzog Zwei and General Chaos (genesis) and Zombies Ate My Neighbors (SNES or Genesis) are my personal favorites.

Loved General Chaos! North & South on NES is great too.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Genesis does what Ninten...also does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-jhSjft_lM

Old as hell but I never knew about it before.

Janky as gently caress and good god that music and sound, but visually it looks a lot better than I would have expected. Makes me curious about what a theoretical effort port of SMW to Genesis could have been like.

mycophobia
May 7, 2008

Heavy Metal posted:

What do you think is the best Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles game on NES, and in general?

I go with Manhattan Project, but the arcade ports on NES and SNES are cool too! Hyperstone Heist on Genesis looks pretty cool, haven't played that one.

Manhattan Project is the best NES Turtles game, and Turtles in Time is the best overall. Hyperstone Heist is cool because it's basically a compilation of the two arcade games (i.e. what Turtles II for the NES and Turtles in Time were based off of).

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave
Jan 9, 2006

Popping up from out of nowhere...


Heavy Metal posted:

And how cool is T&C Surf Designs: Wood & Water rage? Best skateboard game ever I believe.

Having owned this game as a kid: the correct answer is anything other than this game = best skateboard game ever. Another acceptable answer is Skate Or Die.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Lost Vikings is obviously the best multiplayer game

mycophobia
May 7, 2008
god Sunset Riders is hard. gently caress chief wigwam

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010
Oh, Forgotten Worlds on Genesis is great for a co-op play though too. Just don't both die at the same time.

Drowning Rabbit
Oct 28, 2003

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave posted:

Having owned this game as a kid: the correct answer is anything other than this game = best skateboard game ever. Another acceptable answer is Skate Or Die.

720* was a great skateboard game. I knew how to do a lot more poo poo in that than Skate or Die. However the half pipe was still a crap shoot for me.

Zand
Jul 9, 2003

~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~

univbee posted:

Genesis does what Ninten...also does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-jhSjft_lM

Old as hell but I never knew about it before.

Janky as gently caress and good god that music and sound, but visually it looks a lot better than I would have expected. Makes me curious about what a theoretical effort port of SMW to Genesis could have been like.

i like that it starts playing the jeopardy theme partway thru

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




mycophobia posted:

that's cuz genesis version SUCKS!!!! also wtf I was literally about to start playing Sunset Riders on my SNES. solo of course.

The genesis one is shorter, but it has the sweet vs mode (that admittedly could have more than the one map or whatever; it's been a while). SNES is definitely closer to the arcade, though.

donut
Feb 4, 2001

While we're at this, what cool 4 player SNES/SFC games are there? I've got Super Bomberman 1, 3, and 5, and NBA Jam TE, what else should I force my friends to play with me anytime I've somehow convinced enough of them to hang out with me?

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

donut posted:

While we're at this, what cool 4 player SNES/SFC games are there? I've got Super Bomberman 1, 3, and 5, and NBA Jam TE, what else should I force my friends to play with me anytime I've somehow convinced enough of them to hang out with me?

http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Multitap#Games

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


The Peace Keepers immediately sticks out as a good one.

The NHL games are fun with several players. Turn off icing and offsides and have at it. NHL 96 and 97 have fighting.

Also Street Hockey 95 might be the worst sports game on the console.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



shyduck posted:

Also Street Hockey 95 might be the worst sports game on the console.

I think Shaq Fu counts as a sports game, so you're wrong.

Also, I think pit fighting is a legitimate sport, so there's another that's worse.

donut
Feb 4, 2001

While I guess I should be thankful that that was slightly less rude than a lmgtfy link, I was more curious about personal recommendations from posters in this thread because y'all have interesting opinions.

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

I think Bomberman 2 and Nba Jam TE are considered the best 4 player games. You are already at the pinnacle.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

mycophobia posted:

god Sunset Riders is hard. gently caress chief wigwam

bury me with mah money

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Get a Genesis and Gauntlet 4

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies

al-azad posted:

Get a Genesis and Gauntlet 4
Can't say no to that Sakamoto/Iwata soundtrack

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



This is a really good talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvi-fwrfIY

I actually knew about half of this story before, but having it all laid out was pretty interesting.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬


Hey I recognize this from your DUMP2 level!

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

This is entirely too good for Gauntlet.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Elliotw2 posted:

This is entirely too good for Gauntlet.

Gauntlet 4 is too good for Gauntlet. I don't know what the history behind the game was but it's like an East-West collaboration helmed by the original designer of Gauntlet. Is this how Tengen normally operated?

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.


That weird noise at the beginning sounds like someone's stomach rumbling. It kind of bugs me. Maybe it's supposed to be the "Warrior Needs Food Badly" music.

Motorola 68000
Apr 25, 2014

"Don't be nice. Be good."

al-azad posted:

Get a Genesis and Gauntlet 4

Can't beat ~$20 CIB.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
I guess it's time for me to try Gauntlet 4.

Shadow Hog
Feb 23, 2014

Avatar by Jon Davies

Mak0rz posted:

Hey I recognize this from your DUMP2 level!
Yuuuup. Basically that song was my intro to Gauntlet 4's soundtrack as a whole, and repeated listens to it got the mental image of a vast sea of lava with a scant few islands of safe footing scattered about it, so I knew exactly what I had to do for DUMP2 when Term announced it.

Though I don't think the resulting level design was all that stellar, I definitely am quite proud of the atmosphere I managed to pull off.

And hey, in doing so, maybe I got some other people interested in Gauntlet 4's soundtrack. Aside from the title and treasure room themes, which are direct copies of Hal Canon's work for the arcade original, it's an incredible soundtrack.

(Also, whoops, I meant "Sakimoto" in my last post, not "Sakamoto")

Ofecks
May 4, 2009

A portly feline wizard waddles forth, muttering something about conjured food.


Wow, I had no idea N64 PCBs were so tiny. What a waste of space in the carts. I mean, NES had the same issue too, but still.

I think I'm more interested in the SuperCD games you have in the background, what are they?

al-azad posted:

Gauntlet 4 is too good for Gauntlet. I don't know what the history behind the game was but it's like an East-West collaboration helmed by the original designer of Gauntlet. Is this how Tengen normally operated?

I read somewhere that this was the first M2 game. The founders (a couple Japanese guys) programmed a prototype on their X68000s and they consulted with Atari/Tengen to finish it.

Ofecks fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Jul 25, 2017

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Ofecks posted:

Wow, I had no idea N64 PCBs were so tiny. What a waste of space in the carts. I mean, NES had the same issue too, but still.

I think I'm more interested in the SuperCD games you have in the background, what are they?


I read somewhere that this was the first M2 game. The founders (a couple Japanese guys) programmed a prototype on their X68000s and they consulted with Atari/Tengen to finish it.

Tengai Makyo 2 and Tenshi no Uta, some Telenet RPGs.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.

al-azad posted:

Gauntlet 4 is too good for Gauntlet. I don't know what the history behind the game was but it's like an East-West collaboration helmed by the original designer of Gauntlet. Is this how Tengen normally operated?

Not usually, no, but there was a streak of Tengen MD games around that period that are all high-quality conversions: Gauntlet, Marble Madness, Slap Fight and Grind Stormer/V-V (which isn't a great port in actuality but it's as good as can be expected for the hardware). They also did a Game Gear game or two and some PCE games that may or may not have been officially released.

As mentioned above, Gauntlet 4 was the first game from M2, the retro specialist studio that does Sega 3D Classics and various Virtual Console emulators; they made the vast majority of the game on their own as students and they even designed the 4-player multi-tap that Sega released as the Team Player/Sega Tap - their original plan was to include the hardware schematic in the manual so people could build their own adapter, X68000-style, but Sega said no and instead offered to make it an official product. (They were also planning on some sort of LAN hookup using the Japanese MD modem but Sega said no to that as well.)

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Sir Tonk posted:



Had a good ol' time cleaning a few N64 carts my friend gave me. Most were pretty trashed, but they're all working now and are very clean.

The N64 also had a ton of dust in it, but is working great. Gonna send it off for a RGB mod pretty soon.

poo poo, you lucked out with Banjo-Tooie. Pretty sure that's one of the rarest games on the N64 in the US, isn't it?

RodShaft
Jul 31, 2003
Like an evil horny Santa Claus.


Mutant League Hockey and Football are both fun Genesis 2player games.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


Neddy Seagoon posted:

poo poo, you lucked out with Banjo-Tooie. Pretty sure that's one of the rarest games on the N64 in the US, isn't it?

I don't think it's particularly rare. There's at least a dozen more rare if not two dozen.

There is however, a not for resale one that's pretty rare.

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Captain Rufus
Sep 16, 2005

CAPTAIN WORD SALAD

OFF MY MEDS AGAIN PLEASE DON'T USE BIG WORDS

UNNECESSARY LINE BREAK
No mention of Star Control on the Genesis? It's like the best vs mode game. Two skilled players and it's goddamned magical.

A good Spathi v Arilou duel is a thing of beauty.

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