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CheeseSpawn posted:I was listening to this podcast overview on The Chickenshit Club: Why the Justice Department Fails to Prosecute Executives " by Jesse Eisinger. I've read about critiques of about how ineffectiveness of Obama's DOJ/SEC before but there were some nice tidbits on how that culture fluctuates. Sounds like another one to add to the reading list. thanks listening to it now
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Jul 25, 2017 07:23
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Rand alPaul posted:Bad Dems continually tell me that either Wall Street did nothing illegal, or that the DoJ simply couldn't get convictions because Wall Street has too good of lawyers and it's difficult to do so why bother. Obama, in a presidential mastercraft of lawyerly technicality on par with "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" and "my heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not" once said that "some of the worst things Wall Street did were not illegal," which is technically correct in a very narrow sense and used to expansively claim that nothing done was illegal.
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Jul 25, 2017 07:24
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Rand alPaul posted:Bad Dems continually tell me that either Wall Street did nothing illegal, or that the DoJ simply couldn't get convictions because Wall Street has too good of lawyers and it's difficult to do so why bother. I love how the title for the book was derived from Comey, years ago, calling out the lawyers with no losses as the "chickenshit club" because they went after the small fries.
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Jul 25, 2017 07:24
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Is it personal wealth if it is consolidated in some sort of endowment corporation separate from myself that I am the sole benefactor of (less management fees)? ALL We're not playing that dumb "well, but technically....." game anymore. Keep it up and the new 100% tax on all annual incomes above $20M will drop to $10M. Still don't like it? Well 5/6 of those fancy homes you own in fancy places now belong to the homeless.
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Jul 25, 2017 07:28
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CheeseSpawn posted:I love how the title for the book was derived from Comey, years ago, calling out the lawyers with no losses as the "chickenshit club" because they went after the small fries. That sounds like every prosecutor who is obsessed with their conviction rates.
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Jul 25, 2017 07:34
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Also, we're gonna seize assets held overseas that are basically collecting dust and could be put to good use either as funding for public programs or a simple cash disbursement (if this, a bottom-heavy graduated scale up to households earning $500k/yr) or pay off/reimburse student loans existing since 2008. We'll be nice though. If you bring all your cash back willingly, we'll only tax it 99%.
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Jul 25, 2017 07:35
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I mean, there's no reason why one corporation should collect rent from such a great slice of social wealth, but that money isn't literally sitting in a vault, collecting dust, it is used to issue loans. The money realistically isn't present in any form that could be readily extracted, except for a small reserve share. The criticism isn't that companies are preventing money from being used (which is contradictory to the charge of rent seeking), it is that they usurp the right to use the product of labor from others.
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Jul 25, 2017 07:51
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Rand alPaul posted:Bad Dems continually tell me that either Wall Street did nothing illegal, or that the DoJ simply couldn't get convictions because Wall Street has too good of lawyers and it's difficult to do so why bother. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKSX9_wFBoQ
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Jul 25, 2017 08:26
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Subjunctivitis posted:Also, we're gonna seize assets held overseas that are basically collecting dust and could be put to good use either as funding for public programs or a simple cash disbursement (if this, a bottom-heavy graduated scale up to households earning $500k/yr) or pay off/reimburse student loans existing since 2008. We'll be nice though. If you bring all your cash back willingly, we'll only tax it 99%. What about US citizens and green card holders living overseas? What is an "asset collecting dust"?
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Jul 25, 2017 08:38
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comedyblissoption posted:the obama administration even made an argument that you don't want to prosecute, because that might harm the banks and therefore economy https://youtu.be/llgY3VBwTAo
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Jul 25, 2017 08:44
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etalian posted:Also because bad dems are more obsessed with appeasing their horrible donor class than creating a new deal.
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Jul 25, 2017 08:44
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I missed the section in the new platform where we solve racism.
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Jul 25, 2017 09:03
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Subjunctivitis posted:ALL I mean even 10M is pretty generous, it sounds like a good deal to me
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Jul 25, 2017 09:09
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I missed the section in the new platform where we solve racism.
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Jul 25, 2017 09:20
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it is also racist to be against schumer's proposed drug cost control of sending these drug companies a questionnaire since these policies may help bring drug prices under control which will help minorities
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Jul 25, 2017 09:22
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It's also racist to be against slaves in the governors mansion
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Jul 25, 2017 11:45
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https://twitter.com/senkamalaharris/status/889557189110706178 https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/889706493645393920
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Jul 25, 2017 12:24
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/senkamalaharris/status/889557189110706178 of course kamala harris is casting it as 1/6th of our economy. that lets her attack singlepayer too cause of jobs
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Jul 25, 2017 12:28
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Neolibs are incapable of framing anything in terms that aren't market-oriented. "Public," "health," and "welfare" just aren't in their vocabulary.
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Jul 25, 2017 12:33
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Neolibs are sounding like Ferengi trying to be benevolent.
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Jul 25, 2017 12:40
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comedyblissoption posted:the dems are so out of touch they were deluded enough to to think their shitburger plan would excite anyone at all Look, FDR got America to recover from the Great Depression by launching the largest tax credit program in history.
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Jul 25, 2017 12:57
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I missed the section in the new platform where we solve racism. you'll be pleased to note that the dems have officially renounced idpol, the new platform contains no mention of LGBT rights lol
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Jul 25, 2017 13:10
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All neolibs will loving hang
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Jul 25, 2017 13:12
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Condiv posted:of course kamala harris is casting it as 1/6th of our economy. that lets her attack singlepayer too cause of jobs perhaps putting half a million workers out of a job will have political ramifications even if we ignore the economic ones which I'm happy to do?
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Jul 25, 2017 13:26
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:perhaps putting half a million workers out of a job will have political ramifications even if we ignore the economic ones which I'm happy to do? Nothing some more training-tied tax credits can't solve.
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Jul 25, 2017 13:30
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:perhaps putting half a million workers out of a job will have political ramifications even if we ignore the economic ones which I'm happy to do? Oh poo poo political ramification those are scary sounding words guys  Even more scary sounding than "millions are dying needless deaths"
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Jul 25, 2017 13:30
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white sauce posted:All neolibs will loving hang
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Jul 25, 2017 13:31
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Frijolero posted:You're single-handedly making this D&D with your bad data and even worse opinions. spoiler: it's already d&d in here
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Jul 25, 2017 13:32
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:perhaps putting half a million workers out of a job will have political ramifications even if we ignore the economic ones which I'm happy to do? by the same token this is why passing the 13th amendment was a big mistake
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Jul 25, 2017 13:32
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Jul 25, 2017 13:34
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end mechanized farming! millions of jobs are at stake
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Jul 25, 2017 13:35
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America was headed down a dark path after getting rid of switchboards
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Jul 25, 2017 13:40
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The Muppets On PCP posted:by the same token this is why passing the 13th amendment was a big mistake
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Jul 25, 2017 13:41
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Electric lamps!
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Jul 25, 2017 13:42
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/25/trumps-boy-scouts-speech-broke-with-80-years-of-presidential-tradition/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.0caed7550753 WaPo once again shocked by the lack of Trump's decorum at the Boy Scout gathering
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Jul 25, 2017 14:01
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i can't believe the president of the united states alluded to orgies on yachts in front of children
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Jul 25, 2017 14:03
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john rockefeller's standard oil will kill the whaling industry!
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Jul 25, 2017 14:03
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Fallen Hamprince posted:you'll be pleased to note that the dems have officially renounced idpol, the new platform contains no mention of LGBT rights lol Centrist compromise; not letting those pesky minorities and LBGT rights get in the way of their bold new program of giving tax credits and passing new laws to go completely unenforced!
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The Muppets On PCP posted:by the same token this is why passing the 13th amendment was a big mistake it helps that we literally didn't let people vote until they affirmed its vailidity
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