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canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/889875278545260545 "You'll hear something in the next two weeks. I think we'll really surprise a lot of people"
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SulphagneSocialist posted:Hell, I'm ready to believe we might enter the Mattering if Sessions is smoked out: brietbart isn't upset at the idea of firing mueller, they're upset because sessions is the one pushing their racist anti-immigration agenda the hardest and with him gone it'll likely get backburnered
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evilweasel posted:"decision soon" from the white house is meaningless They'll make their decision right after Melania addresses all of the work she did illegally on a tourist visa
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What constituency would he actually have? He can't even run as a principled Republican challenger to Trump anymore because he just quit the Republican Party, and Democrats sure as poo poo aren't electing a Charlie Crist type on the national level post-Bernie, and I don't think they ever would have. At most he'd be a spoiler.
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Sinteres posted:What constituency would he actually have? He can't even run as a principled Republican challenger to Trump anymore because he just quit the Republican Party, and Democrats sure as poo poo aren't electing a Charlie Crist type on the national level post-Bernie, and I don't think they ever would have. At most he'd be a spoiler. Yeah but if you look again it's Cillizza which means it's a dogshit tweet
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Krispy Kareem posted:I don't get why everyone isn't totally jazzed about all that new land in Antarctica we now develop. Along with a 10-million-year-old hemorrhagic virus or two that will kill every fish in the ocean or kill everyone in the northern hemisphere or something.
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business hammocks posted:Along with a 10-million-year-old hemorrhagic virus or two that will kill every fish in the ocean or kill everyone in the northern hemisphere or something. That's fine, the South(ern hemisphere) shall rise again!
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evilweasel posted:brietbart isn't upset at the idea of firing mueller, they're upset because sessions is the one pushing their racist anti-immigration agenda the hardest and with him gone it'll likely get backburnered Obviously, but Trump opening up a rift at the right might start rocking what's left of his support. I mean the headline literally says "Potus endangers immigration agenda" Many on the alt-right, the ones who aren't blind Trumpistas, probably see Bannon and Sessions as the guys in the admin who are there to guarantee the white supremacist agenda keeps trucking along. If there's a purge, Sessions is gone, and New Yorker slash Democratic donor Mooch takes over as COS? Sounds like their worst nightmare, the Deep State resurgent in the WH.
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So can someone help me understand if Sessions is fired and Mueller is fired, doesn't that mean Trump investigation is over?
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lol, few people were more loyal to Trump than Sessions. He was with Trump early and with enthusiasm. After the election, he gave up his senate seat to serve as Trump's AG, and so if he repays that loyalty by publicly trashing him and then firing him a few short months in... who the hell agrees to be the next AG? gently caress Sessions though, he's a shitheel and deserves no sympathy.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:I really hope that's true, and it certainly could be, but, again, that's banking on the "moderates" not caving to the radicals. Recent history doesn't bode well on that front. I won't Covok about it too much, since I've been putting in time to put pressure on Portman, but optimism is not really warranted. oh i get it. i just have hope. because they are divided a hell and Trump is burying himself and not exactly a charismatic leader for them. canepazzo posted:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/889875278545260545 sounds about right. he will either fire him(found someone to send) or he will keep playing with him, hoping he will resign.
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SulphagneSocialist posted:Obviously, but Trump opening up a rift at the right might start rocking what's left of his support. As long as they see people they hate suffering they will endure any indignity. American politics are politics of spite,
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:So can someone help me understand if Sessions is fired and Mueller is fired, doesn't that mean Trump investigation is over? Yes, though you'd hope that'd be enough for the spineless congress critters to finally go "oooooooooooookay, maybe we should impeach" but that depends on your level of Mattering belief
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:So can someone help me understand if Sessions is fired and Mueller is fired, doesn't that mean Trump investigation is over? yes, at that point the only way the investigation resumes is if Congress votes to appoint a special counsel that reports to Congress instead of the DOJ similar to Ken Starr, with veto-proof majorities.
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Calaveron posted:How'd Cilliiizzaa's AMA go anyway lots of people asking what his mouth do
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Jul 25, 2017 17:00
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I wonder if Sessions has time to run for his own Senate seat if he gets fired
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twice burned ice posted:Chicken little sees fog on the ground: He does this poo poo incessantly - claiming some sort of political clairvoyance when really he's mensching all the ongoing catastrophe. It's obnoxious as gently caress. Take a handful of Prozac, Covok.
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Calaveron posted:How'd Cilliiizzaa's AMA go anyway he was repeatedly mocked and insulted
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If Trump could, like, appoint and the fire every Republican Senator to and from some position like he's doing with Sessions, that would be swell
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This is such a weird loving administration. https://twitter.com/yashar/status/889878158102724609
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There's an active FBI investigation that shouldn't go anywhere even if Mueller gets shitcanned, but it's easier to shut that investigation down if there's no special counsel. That's my understanding. I'd guess if you're taking the bullet on firing Mueller you're dismissing Mueller's task force (which isn't a part of the FBI investigation?) too.
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Calaveron posted:How'd Cilliiizzaa's AMA go anyway Other journalists came in to dunk on him and his response was basically "Um well if you hate me why don't you just listen to someone else." Yes, his response for "you suck at your job" was "well other people don't suck!" He's worthless.
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A civil war among Trump's base would be sweet. On one side you have the MAGA idiots who were brainwashed by their orange God. On the other side, you have the alt-right white nationalists who weren't really pro-Trump, they are pro white nationalism, and if Trump turns on Sessions and Bannon, he loses the alt-right.
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No Safe Word posted:Yes, though you'd hope that'd be enough for the spineless congress critters to finally go "oooooooooooookay, maybe we should impeach" but that depends on your level of Mattering belief Reauthorizing an independent counsel would be more likely than jumping straight to impeachment, though they might just authorize an investigation with a more limited scope than Mueller is pursuing right now. It would be really interesting to see what (if anything) would emerge. If they did nothing, they really would be telling Trump he's above the rule of law.
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I have to think Mueller has a "killswitch" sort of thing he set up after he watched Comey ousted. He's smart and he's been REAL quiet for a reason, and he most certainly sees the writing on the wall. He knows his firing isn't just likely but inevitable, and the rank-and-file FBI can't be happy with Trump now either. Will it matter? I dunno. I hope so.
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Rigel posted:A civil war among Trump's base would be sweet. On one side you have the MAGA idiots who were brainwashed by their orange God. On the other side, you have the alt-right white nationalists who weren't really pro-Trump, they are pro white nationalism, and if Trump turns on Sessions and Bannon, he loses the alt-right. At this point the two groups devouring each other is our best chance for avoiding a deadlock next year so *rah rah*
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Sinteres posted:Reauthorizing an independent counsel would be more likely than jumping straight to impeachment, though they might just authorize an investigation with a more limited scope than Mueller is pursuing right now. It would be really interesting to see what (if anything) would emerge. If they did nothing, they really would be telling Trump he's above the rule of law. I'm not sure the Republicans in Congress would go for it.
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fsif posted:This is such a weird loving administration. Russian Trumpbots are openly revolting against this piece in the comments.
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Sinteres posted:Reauthorizing an independent counsel would be more likely than jumping straight to impeachment, though they might just authorize an investigation with a more limited scope than Mueller is pursuing right now. It would be really interesting to see what (if anything) would emerge. If they did nothing, they really would be telling Trump he's above the rule of law. That or a Select Committee
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Crows Turn Off posted:Wouldn't an independent counsel also have to be veto-proof as well? Of course they wouldn't. If it comes down to Congress saving the country then the country is doomed.
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Rigel posted:A civil war among Trump's base would be sweet. On one side you have the MAGA idiots who were brainwashed by their orange God. On the other side, you have the alt-right white nationalists who weren't really pro-Trump, they are pro white nationalism, and if Trump turns on Sessions and Bannon, he loses the alt-right. Eh, the amount of people who have an intellectually consistent attachment to white nationalism that supersedes veneration of the heroic leader is insignificant from any kind of demographic/electoral perspective. They're a loud, but very tiny group.
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Medullah posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/889800510106107904 Barron's gonna spill the beans and become the next American hero.
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Good. Force Trump to fire him. Make it as bitter and dirty as possible. Do it.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Good. Force Trump to fire him. Make it as bitter and dirty as possible. Do it. plus all the conservatives are coming out of the woodwork to defend sessions and tell trump he's not allowed to fire him and you just know how much trump likes being told no
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Jul 25, 2017 17:12
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Eh, the amount of people who have an intellectually consistent attachment to white nationalism that supersedes veneration of the heroic leader is insignificant from any kind of demographic/electoral perspective. They're a loud, but very tiny group. Yes but the Republicans are a group of pack animals. If enough RWM sources give out anti Trump marching orders there will be confusion and hostility within mass over which side is the RINO and which isn't.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I wonder if Sessions has time to run for his own Senate seat if he gets fired He does not. He missed the deadline for registration. If he gets fired or resigns his career is effectively over.
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