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Tikifire: Jun 22, 2006; Would you like to touch my monkey?

Cromulent posted:

The rumors I saw said "by episode 13" so if those are to be believed, it could happen next week.

He seemed to be coming out of the fog while eating the Cherry Pie, the next episode is called "Let's Rock," and things seem to be building to a head, so I'd say there's a pretty decent chance of it.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:29

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# ? May 13, 2024 21:53

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

Thom and the Heads posted:

the show is called Twin Peaks: The Return

coop isnt returning until the last frame. accept this.

The show is called Twin Peaks.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:32

Polo-Rican: Jul 4, 2004; emptyquote my posts or die

Tikifire posted:

He seemed to be coming out of the fog while eating the Cherry Pie

while this is true, this is also exactly what everyone said when Janey-E first served him coffee a billion episodes ago

# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:47

LawfulWaffle: Mar 11, 2014; Well, that aligns with the vibes I was getting. Which was, like, "normal" kinda vibes.

There's a lot I liked about this episode, starting with Carl's ability to summon a mobile command station at a toot of a whistle. I liked Hawk talking about how the symbol for fire could mean many things, and how it was like electricity. It makes me think that there's going to be some connection like Fire : Wood :: Electricity : ??? that ties the Lodges to the real world. Speak of, there's a few instances of people who obviously need to go to the hospital and I suspect that next episode will bring in that as a location, maybe showing off the two incidents we saw today (Richard's target from last week and the vomiting girl) along with perhaps other people who have begun being affected by the "black flame" of influence. With the vomiting girl, the drug wizard, Briggs' prophecy, and the wormhole and soot hobos taking up more and more screen time I think that the end of this season is going to be cataclysmic. Like, sky tearing open, people running in terror, with a super group of Bobby, Truman, Hawk, Cole, Albert and Cooper facing off against malice personified. This is obviously much bigger than Twin Peaks, but I hope that it doesn't poo poo the bed in the final hours because an arc that goes from small town murder to a battle between the dueling natures of humanity would be pretty exciting.

In a more grounded note, Cooper keeps exhibiting colossal good fortune in Vegas, falling rear end over backwards into thwarting his third assassination attempt. Now there's Anthony who's going to be coming for him, but the Mitchum brothers being in Cooper's corner means that they know Tony's a lying piece of poo poo who wanted them to kill their good buddy Dougie and have access to their own network of hitmen. I think Anthony's going to see Cooper come into work just before suffering from a fatal case of car bomb. That leave Tim Roth's character, who seems more frightening if only because he has less to lose than Anthony. Just like Ike, the most terrifying killers are the ones who make a beeline for the target, not the ones who hem and haw and worry about the aftermath. I don't think we'll get old Cooper back until both of those threats are dealt with; Mike advised/commanded Cooper not to die and so far, so good. That other casino owner is dead meat though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFe_oiZ9VbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgXLEM8MhJo

# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:50

caligulamprey: Jan 23, 2007; It never stops.

I love how Diane is the only person on the face of the earth Albert will take poo poo from.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:53

ruddiger: Jun 3, 2004

CJacobs posted:

Naomi shared some texts between her and David on her instagram.

They are so adorable.

edit: Also I love the idea that when Lynch meditates he leaves his phone on for some reason

He calls her buttercup in his texts. :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLreaAQA9kA

# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:59

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD: Jul 7, 2012

Can we talk about David Lynch's creepy cult and the fake charity he runs to prop it up?

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:25

moist turtleneck: Jul 17, 2003; Represent.; Dinosaur Gum

I'd rather talk about the cult Jacques belongs to called Scientology

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:25

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD: Jul 7, 2012

I mean the David Lynch Foundation is exactly the same thing as Scientology's "philanthropic" work, i.e. is really about getting more followers for the cult.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:28

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

caligulamprey posted:

I love how Diane is the only person on the face of the earth Albert will take poo poo from.

Even then he seems to be at the end of his rope on that given what they learned about her a few eps ago. Soon Albert will be the king of dunking on others once more.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:28

Empress Brosephine: Mar 31, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

There's still a lot of c haracters we haven't checked in on like Big Ed

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:33

Zmej: Nov 6, 2005

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Can we talk about David Lynch's creepy cult and the fake charity he runs to prop it up?

I think Lynch genuinely believes TM is helping people. But it does shoehorn in a weird metaphysical reality belief that is somewhat problematic in a therepeutic setting. They do request money but will give grants to people for free lessons if they can't afford it. I think a lot of the money goes towards teaching prisoners, veterans, juveniles and funding individual grants.

It's not a bad thing, but I think it promises more than it should.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:46

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

Transcendental meditation will* change your life!

# ? Jul 25, 2017 18:55

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD: Jul 7, 2012

Zmej posted:

It's not a bad thing, but I think it promises more than it should.

Diverting funds and time from efforts to genuinely help those people instead of inducting them into a cult is, in fact, a bad thing

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:01

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

Are you one of those people that also believes being a vegetarian is a cult

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:05

Cromulent: Dec 22, 2002; People are under a lot of stress, Bradley.

CJacobs posted:

Even then he seems to be at the end of his rope on that given what they learned about her a few eps ago. Soon Albert will be the king of dunking on others once more.

His last "I know, 'gently caress you, Albert'" felt really loaded, as it came directly after seeing Diane mouthing the coordinates from Ruth's arm.

I still have no loving idea what is up with Diane, but I have basically two predictions. One is that she is Phillip Jeffries - not literally (well maybe), but she's the one Bad Cooper and Ray were communicating with, and while she's not working with the FBI, she's not working against them either.

My other prediction is that she's straight up evil and working with Bad Coop (whether she's a doppelganger or not, I have no idea), and I think if that's the case, she's gonna kill Albert.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:09

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Diverting funds and time from efforts to genuinely help those people instead of inducting them into a cult is, in fact, a bad thing

philanthropy isn't zero sum

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:17

Rupert Buttermilk: Apr 15, 2007; 🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Empress Brosephine posted:

There's still a lot of c haracters we haven't checked in on like Big Ed

I need my Audrey :negative:

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:20

esperterra: Mar 24, 2010; SHINee's back

Same. And not just to see Fenn, or what the character has been up to. I need to know more about Richard!

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:22

No Dignity: Oct 15, 2007

esperterra posted:

Same. And not just to see Fenn, or what the character has been up to. I need to know more about Richard!

'Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it!' - Reginald P. Linux

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:25

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

CJacobs posted:

Are you one of those people that also believes being a vegetarian is a cult

There is a video of David Lynch and a German dude digging a hole in the middle of the night chanting "Invincible Germany". David Lynch is a weird cultist, and possibly funding closet nazis. That doesn't mean I dislike his work. It's just something to be aware of.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:25

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

Wasn't big Ed mentioned in the last episode?

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:25

TheMaestroso: Nov 4, 2014; I must know your secrets.

hawowanlawow posted:

Wasn't big Ed mentioned in the last episode?

The daydreaming kid cop mentioned to Bobby that he was "at Big Ed's Gas Farm" when he heard the gunshot.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:26

Deus Ex Macklemore: Jul 2, 2004; Zelensky's Zealots

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Diverting funds and time from efforts to genuinely help those people instead of inducting them into a cult is, in fact, a bad thing

Cults usually break you down to nothing before building you up in their "image", take your money, isolate you from family and friends (non believers) and typically frown upon you leaving to downright preventing you from leaving. Is there any proof of any of this or is any organization that asks for donations a cult to you?

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:27

A True Jar Jar Fan: Nov 3, 2003; Primadonna

TheMaestroso posted:

The daydreaming kid cop mentioned to Bobby that he was "at Big Ed's Gas Farm" when he heard the gunshot.

This kid was great, I loved his stupid optimism and excitement. He just wants to show the sheriff his new car!

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:28

SeANMcBAY: Jun 28, 2006; Look on the bright side.

I'd join a David Lynch cult. Sounds like it would be a fun time.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:36

RecoomesSexyRear: Jul 18, 2003

I want to join a Gordon Cole cult where we all make loud observations and kiss girls in front of their boyfriends.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:38

No Mods No Masters: Oct 3, 2004

Flyinglemur posted:

Cults usually break you down to nothing before building you up in their "image", take your money, isolate you from family and friends (non believers) and typically frown upon you leaving to downright preventing you from leaving. Is there any proof of any of this or is any organization that asks for donations a cult to you?

http://www.suggestibility.org/ is AFAIK the big firsthand account of abuse in TM, you can make your own conclusions. It's interesting albeit extremely depressing reading

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:38

Zmej: Nov 6, 2005

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

Diverting funds and time from efforts to genuinely help those people instead of inducting them into a cult is, in fact, a bad thing

Any form of meditation, despite how metaphysical it gets, along working with a genuine and caring teacher, and learning skills to prevent one from acting in reactive ways that are harmful is a therapeutic experience than most of these impoverished people will ever get. Research shows a good therapeutic relationship and experience has more influence on good outcomes than the type of therapy. As much as my misgivings with TM, it's very likely doing more good than harm. I think when Lynch advertises it has some panacea for troubled people, that's when my red flags go up some more due to the lofty promise and narrowing therapeutic choices.

Edit:

No Mods No Masters posted:

http://www.suggestibility.org/ is AFAIK the big firsthand account of abuse in TM, you can make your own conclusions. It's interesting albeit extremely depressing reading

Welp, time to do some further reading. Maybe my optimism was misplaced. David pls

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:39

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

Der Spiegel posted:

"Invincible Germany! Invincible Germany! I want to hear you all say, invincible Germany!" said Schiffgens to the audience in Berlin's Urania theater.

Reaction from the audience was immediate -- and overwhelmingly negative. "That's what Hitler wanted!" shouted one man.

Schiffgens' response only made matters worse: "Yes, but unfortunately he didn't succeed."

Schiffgens might have been forgiven for his eccentricity -- he was wearing a flowing white robe and a gold crown, and described himself as the "raja" (king or prince) of Germany. But even in the peaceful context of Transcendental Meditation, an institution that promotes German "invincibility" is not likely to be welcomed in a nation where the horrors of Nazi rule are deeply ingrained in the collective consciousness.

Protests from the audience became loud enough that Lynch eventually approached the microphone himself. "I don't know what he (Schiffgens) said, but I think I understand that he used a word from the Third Reich, and let's just look at it this way, it's a new world now," said Lynch.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:40

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

THAT is what made you think they're closet Nazis?

lol

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:46

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

hawowanlawow posted:

THAT is what made you think they're closet Nazis?

lol

You're seriously suggesting this isn't nazi rhetoric?

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:54

Deus Ex Macklemore: Jul 2, 2004; Zelensky's Zealots

No Mods No Masters posted:

http://www.suggestibility.org/ is AFAIK the big firsthand account of abuse in TM, you can make your own conclusions. It's interesting albeit extremely depressing reading

Thanks, I'll look into this

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:57

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

I thought you meant they gave money to some kind of right wing party or did anything political at all. Not just using standard empowerment scheme rhetoric while they happen to be German.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 19:58

Dr. Fishopolis: Aug 31, 2004; ROBOT

No Mods No Masters posted:

http://www.suggestibility.org/ is AFAIK the big firsthand account of abuse in TM, you can make your own conclusions. It's interesting albeit extremely depressing reading

TM as a practice is hard to complain about, but the actual organization is definitely culty. My aunt was sucked into it for a while and spent way too much money on Maharishi-branded ayurvedic stuff. I mean, I'm glad it was that and not Scientology or something, and to be fair that rose petal jam is delicious, but it's not fun to feel like you're losing a family member to an obvious huckster like Mahesh. Moreover, you definitely do not need to spend a thousand dollars at a TM center to learn how to meditate. I mean, if you do it and that works for you then great, but it seems pretty transparently meant to suck you into the Maharishi worship thing.

I don't really think any of this is an indictment of Lynch though. Yeah, maybe he believes in yogic flying and other nonsense, but even if that's true it's still and by far the least weird thing about him.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 20:02

TheMaestroso: Nov 4, 2014; I must know your secrets.

Yeah, this derail is not really all that relevant to Twin Peaks.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 20:05

And More: Jun 19, 2013; How far, Doctor?
How long have you lived?

hawowanlawow posted:

I thought you meant they gave money to some kind of right wing party or did anything political at all. Not just using standard empowerment scheme rhetoric while they happen to be German.

It's kind of crucial that he happened to do it in Germany because (believe it or not) there are still a lot of Nazis in Germany, and this is definitely catering to them. Emanuel Schiffgens should know. He's German as well. If you give money to people like that, chances are they might give some of it to their Nazi friends or help recruit impressionable people.

TheMaestroso posted:

Yeah, this derail is not really all that relevant to Twin Peaks.

I just think it's an important distinction to make. Support David Lynch the artist if you want, but maybe not David Lynch the cultist.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 20:15

hawowanlawow: Jul 27, 2009

And More posted:

It's kind of crucial that he happened to do it in Germany because (believe it or not) there are still a lot of Nazis in Germany, and this is definitely catering to them. Emanuel Schiffgen should know. He's German as well. If you give money to people like that, chances are they might give some of it to their Nazi friends or help recruit impressionable people.

I just think it's an important distinction to make. Support David Lynch the artist if you want, but maybe not David Lynch the cultist.

How is it catering to Nazis? Do you know this guy has Nazi friends? I'm just not seeing it.

Like obviously it's a scam, but you've given zero evidence that they're closet Nazis.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 20:17

A True Jar Jar Fan: Nov 3, 2003; Primadonna

I support Candie the Waitress.

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# ? May 13, 2024 21:53

My Lovely Horse: Aug 21, 2010

This thread sustains itself in all the worst ways between episodes. Please at least take it to the general Lynch thread or even better make one about cultists in showbusiness cause Lord knows there's no shortage.

# ? Jul 25, 2017 20:20

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