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some loving LIAR posted:No, the article is just addressed to leftists, making the case that they should also be anti-Putin, because Putin is anti-left. The whole article is fairly milquetoast and unobjectionable in its particulars. It doesn't make any real policy prescriptions beyond (paraphrasing) "find a non-hawkish way to oppose the spread of rightwing ideology". Whether or not there is a way to do this that is not effectively imperialist is left as an exercise for the reader. Yeah, ask who the audience is. Is it leftists? Please be cool with the idea of being extremely antagonistic to Russia/Putin. Is it centrists/libs/whatever? Get a load of these assholes who are "worried" about a "Cold War".
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proud member of the pro-putin left and jared fogel innocence project, reporting in
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Love my employer being able to track my movements. Also one of the "perks" of it is that you can but snacks with just a swipe of your hand~ Wow! You're tellin me I don't have to handle cash in exchange for my employer being able to watch me! Okay that's a bit pessimistic but there are troubling implications to this even if it is voluntary. For me it's either full cyborg augmentations or nothing. None of this RFID in my hand poo poo.
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Jul 25, 2017 16:42
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Love my employer being able to track my movements. It will be "voluntary" before long.
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prefect posted:It will be "voluntary" before long. i come from a southern religious family so its just best that i dont mention this to either one of them because they will lose their loving poo poo to be honest even im a little bit freaked out by this all it takes is one step 
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Barcodes are the real mark of the devil. This is why I do all my shopping at the farmer's market.
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Cross posting from the other Best Thread:Jose posted:https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/25/16020666/us-trademark-law-disparaging-the-piss-tape-is-real quote:As I was researching for this story, I found a megathread titled “The Piss Tape is Real” deep inside the recesses of the political subsections of Something Awful forums. At some point last week, a user posted, “So guys I filed a trademark application for the phrase ‘the piss tape is real’ and I got a call from some reporter from the verge yesterday. how should I respond.”  but the Discourse
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Imagine thinking your employees will want to be chipped when they're filthy job hopping millenials anyways. Really dumb move!
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Serf posted:i am ready for the shadowrun future you're in luck, it arrived 17 years ago
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prefect posted:It will be "voluntary" before long. Exactly, it'll start off voluntarily and then the company language will become that yes it is voluntarily but we strongly recommend you get it. That is if you want to move up in the company and you really care.
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Phone posted:you're in luck, it arrived 17 years ago nah, if it had i would already have a cool cyberleg and not this crappy poo poo from the 80s i'm stuck with also i might be an orc
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Race Realists posted:i come from a southern religious family so its just best that i dont mention this to either one of them because they will lose their loving poo poo The Twitter replies are all batshit
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Jul 25, 2017 17:13
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is it just the "employer" part that people are upset about because cellphone data tracking is far more invasive and everyone just consents to that so they can play candy crush or whatever
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little munchkin posted:is it just the "employer" part that people are upset about because cellphone data tracking is far more invasive and everyone just consents to that so they can play candy crush or whatever Yeah but I can at least turn my celly off and leave it behind if I need to do a murder or go cruising for a closeted republican senator at a rest stop or w/e.
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little munchkin posted:is it just the "employer" part that people are upset about because cellphone data tracking is far more invasive and everyone just consents to that so they can play candy crush or whatever Giving your boss more control over you is bad
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little munchkin posted:is it just the "employer" part that people are upset about because cellphone data tracking is far more invasive and everyone just consents to that so they can play candy crush or whatever you can leave your cellphone at home without having to use a stanley knife and tweezers
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:Yeah but I can at least turn my celly off and leave it behind if I need to do a murder or go cruising for a closeted republican senator at a rest stop or w/e. eh, the tech getting to the point that they can just predict that stuff based on your travel patterns, web history, text/phone/irl conversations, etc.
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little munchkin posted:eh, the tech getting to the point that they can just predict that stuff based on your travel patterns, web history, text/phone/irl conversations, etc. Your boss can't leverage that against you
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little munchkin posted:eh, the tech getting to the point that they can just predict that stuff based on your travel patterns, web history, text/phone/irl conversations, etc. lil fatalistic even for my tastes
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little munchkin posted:is it just the "employer" part that people are upset about because cellphone data tracking is far more invasive and everyone just consents to that so they can play candy crush or whatever Verizon isn't going to be able to fire me for spending Saturday nights locked in a glory hole at a sex club though.
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Serf posted:lil fatalistic even for my tastes that wasn't a joke or sarcasm or whatever. police have been trying to use predictive analytics for years and now with big data + cellphones your life is an open book to corporations and such. eventually those two worlds are going to collide i mean don't get me wrong embedding a microchip is bad but this poo poo has been going on for years and everyone's been surprisingly cool with it so far
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Employers routinely pull poo poo that would result in riots and revolution if the government did the same thing. In a similar vein: https://twitter.com/mccainenl/status/889841481028120576
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little munchkin posted:that wasn't a joke or sarcasm or whatever. police have been trying to use predictive analytics for years and now with big data + cellphones your life is an open book to corporations and such. eventually those two worlds are going to collide the little magic box in your pocket that sells your life out to the corporations isn't quite as meaningful as having a microchip under your skin, so maybe people will react a little more strongly to this if not, well hopefully we'll nuke the world soon
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Employers routinely pull poo poo that would result in riots and revolution if the government did the same thing. IBM had a thing (or it's still on going? dunno) where they told all of their remote employees to find an office or to find another job recently.
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little munchkin posted:is it just the "employer" part that people are upset about because cellphone data tracking is far more invasive and everyone just consents to that so they can play candy crush or whatever Well, you can buy burner phones but you can't get a burner job. Pac-Manioc Root posted:Yeah but I can at least turn my celly off and leave it behind if I need to do a murder or go cruising for a closeted republican senator at a rest stop or w/e. Cell companies have been able to forcibly turn your phone on without you for a while, haven't they? You gotta take the battery out.
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Well, you can buy burner phones but you can't get a burner job. https://youtu.be/m_TFheZvG6k
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Phone posted:IBM had a thing (or it's still on going? dunno) where they told all of their remote employees to find an office or to find another job recently. Once again, Corporate choose making their workers suffer over efficiency.
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I don't think many (at least in leftist spaces) think that the RFID thing is literally brand new in concept, it's more an issue that at the very least poo poo like phone tracking can have important uses and is connected to poo poo like 'well you want a map right? Well you need GPS and poo poo then'. Your boss telling you to functionally chip yourself like a dog is pointless other than giving him control over your life in new, unpleasant, ways for no value.
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Holy poo poo https://twitter.com/thyssenkrupp_en/status/889883053069357056
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Thinking about the insane conversation we had earlier about the Chapo's being excluded from the revolution because they make money and it stuck me how goddamned stupid it was on another level. It has a streak of the anti-intellectualism of the Khmer Rouge. I'm not making a direct comparison here but Lenin and Marx were both solidly upper-middle class. Excluding potential class allies because they make a few grand is loving insane a really good way to end up getting hacked to pieces by a teenager in a bandana with a machete. MikeCrotch posted:Not just Lenin and Marx, but Mao, Ghandi, Castro, Che, Trotsky, Luxemburg etc. were all middle class to a greater or lesser degree. It's a pretty big part of the study of revolutions - revolutionary leaders tend to be middle class since poorer proletarians tend not to have the degree of education, social connections or money required to start or achieve leadership in revolutionary organisations, but the actual upper class are too invested in the current social order and insulated from the actual bad stuff to care. Obviously there are exceptions but it holds pretty true. really into these posts comparing chapo with marx, engels, mao, etc.
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yoober posted:really into these posts comparing chapo with marx, engels, mao, etc. I think the Marx one is apt, tho. 
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Describing eurofascist parties like the Front National as 'alt right' is dumb as hell
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sexpig by night posted:I don't think many (at least in leftist spaces) think that the RFID thing is literally brand new in concept, it's more an issue that at the very least poo poo like phone tracking can have important uses and is connected to poo poo like 'well you want a map right? Well you need GPS and poo poo then'. Your boss telling you to functionally chip yourself like a dog is pointless other than giving him control over your life in new, unpleasant, ways for no value. whatever apps you use most certainly don't need to know the brands you mention in phone conversations, what route you take through the supermarket, or any of the other things they actually use your data for the most offensive part to me was the company saying they would reimburse you for the 300$ cost of the surgery, as if paying out of their own pocket was the part people would take issue with
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little munchkin posted:whatever apps you use most certainly don't need to know the brands you mention in phone conversations, what route you take through the supermarket, or any of the other things they actually use your data for Whooooosh
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