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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Canaan started 2 games in the playoffs!~
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Jul 25, 2017 17:33
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IcePhoenix posted:It's kind of funny that at the time it was seen as a massive discount to get Gorgui on that deal and not even a year later it's considered a bit of an overpay by some of the same people. Dieng had a bit of a step back year too. I think most of the upside is worn down which was done if the value.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:34
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You might also say that no one could've seen the drastic and hard shift into small ball for the entire league.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:36
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I mean literally last year people were paying ten million plus for backup centers. Now the funny part is that one year later all those contracts look loving awful. But still. I don't think this is some 'market gradually dried up because of small ball', it was totally a thing last year. Obvs it was extra weird because of the cap spike, but still.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:41
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Tae posted:You might also say that no one could've seen the drastic and hard shift into small ball for the entire league. All 4 conference finals teams used 2 typical bigs in their starting lineup. Bigs who can shoot are becoming more common, but even the "smallest" teams still use two bigs in the floor more often than not.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:41
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https://twitter.com/stephenasmith/status/889882781760851969 Lebron James is going to fight Stephen A Smith
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Jul 25, 2017 17:42
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attackmole posted:I mean literally last year people were paying ten million plus for backup centers. I think people realized learning really quickly that paying a dude 15 million dollars to play 14 minutes a game is really loving stupid
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Jul 25, 2017 17:43
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Lockback posted:All 4 conference finals teams used 2 typical bigs in their starting lineup. Bigs who can shoot are becoming more common, but even the "smallest" teams still use two bigs in the floor more often than not. Teams start 2 bigs, but their best line-ups involve playing one of their wings at the 4. The only team that was actually better with two bigs were the Cavs and that's because the rest of the roster is nowhere as good as TT and Love. And even then, there's some data that suggests the Cavs are better without Love if they're playing Irving and vice versa.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:45
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Gross https://twitter.com/josh_tep/status/889877351894581248
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Jul 25, 2017 17:48
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It's not some big mystery. Noel is a RFA and I don't think there is anyone left who can attempt to offer what he's looking for. Dallas isn't going to negotiate against themselves since they have the advantage. Dallas doesn't have to and doesn't want to offer something more than he's worth and Noel has no one left to pump up his price. As a RFA, you either need to grab something extremely early or just be prepared to take the QO
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Jul 25, 2017 17:48
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I mean, the Nets being completely unwilling to throw a high offer sheet at Noel is pretty telling. They don't even want to try to pump up his price out of fear they will be stuck with him.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:51
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/status/889877177424064513 I only know the first three and they are guys you would want in practice but not playing in games.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:54
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Pels just waived Quinn Cook, which is a shame because he looked competent. They also waived Axel Toupane, which was good because he looked awful.
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Jul 25, 2017 17:58
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Noel just taking the QO might make the most sense for him. Tae posted:Teams start 2 bigs, but their best line-ups involve playing one of their wings at the 4. The only team that was actually better with two bigs were the Cavs and that's because the rest of the roster is nowhere as good as TT and Love. I just clicked around and it looks like the warriors play small they most, and that's because they have a 7 foot wing and a defender in Iggy that slots in the 4 easily. All that said, they still had 2 bigs on the floor at like a 4:1 ratio. Spurs rarely played with only 1 big, same with Boston. For your talk of the best lineups not having two bigs, most successful teams don't agree.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:03
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Paul Zuvella posted:I mean, the Nets being completely unwilling to throw a high offer sheet at Noel is pretty telling. They don't even want to try to pump up his price out of fear they will be stuck with him. Oh I'm not saying he's without his flaws and concerns, just that there is no one even left to throw $20M a year at him so he basically has little ability to negotiate.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:20
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Libertine posted:Are there any recorded cases of social media signals being wrong? I'm not really joking, I'm pretty serious here. It seems like you could basically construct an entire predictive data modeling of what players real internal preferences are in free agency based on what they do on Twitter and Instagram and others. Like a few months ago didn't Gordon Hayward accidentally set his Twitter to green shamrock or something or was that his wife? In any event, it's really hilarious and beat writers should literally just be tracking the multi-variable social media connections of athletes. Phone posting but off the top of my head Blake Griffin followed a few Celtics on IG this offseason before he scheduled meetings. Maybe he was just that impressed by the pioneer shirts and Blake Griffin museum.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:25
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Libertine posted:Are there any recorded cases of social media signals being wrong? I'm not really joking, I'm pretty serious here. It seems like you could basically construct an entire predictive data modeling of what players real internal preferences are in free agency based on what they do on Twitter and Instagram and others. Like a few months ago didn't Gordon Hayward accidentally set his Twitter to green shamrock or something or was that his wife? In any event, it's really hilarious and beat writers should literally just be tracking the multi-variable social media connections of athletes. It was his wife posting a picture of their kid in a shamrock outfit. But in general, yeah, people are unnervingly honest in their social media which is one of the reasons why all the three letter agencies monitor that poo poo so closely. I hope Melo is gone today I hope I hope
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Jul 25, 2017 18:37
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If I were Noel I would take the QO and spend $1m on an insurance policy in case I got hurt. He would get paid next summer as a free agent.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:39
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:If I were Noel I would take the QO and spend $1m on an insurance policy in case I got hurt. He would get paid next summer as a free agent. Would he? There was nothing stopping him from getting paid this offseason, so unless he improves a ton I don't see why next year would be much different. If Dallas is really offere 3-4 years at 13-14 million he should probably take it. Teams are going to be under an even worse cap crunch next year.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:43
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Paul Zuvella posted:Would he? There was nothing stopping him from getting paid this offseason, so unless he improves a ton I don't see why next year would be much different. If Dallas is really offere 3-4 years at 13-14 million he should probably take it. Teams are going to be under an even worse cap crunch next year. Currently just 11 teams with $15M or more in projected cap space, at least according to Sportrac. That's assuming teams renounce all their cap holds, if they don't there's way fewer. Some of those are non-starters like Philly, Houston, Suns, Nuggets, too. The market's probably going to be tight until the 15-16 contracts start coming off the books en masse
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Jul 25, 2017 18:46
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Paul Zuvella posted:Would he? There was nothing stopping him from getting paid this offseason, so unless he improves a ton I don't see why next year would be much different. Because he wouldn't be a restricted free agent. Not a lot of teams want to negotiate with someone only to have their money tied up for days while the team mulls whether they match or not and end up missing out on other free agents. It's part of the reason players and agents hate RFA, they have little control and their negotiations are automatically hampered unless you are a clear max contract guy
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Jul 25, 2017 18:52
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morestuff posted:Currently just 11 teams with $15M or more in projected cap space, at least according to Sportrac. That's assuming teams renounce all their cap holds, if they don't there's way fewer. Exactly, and I don't think teams are going to be tripping over themselves who can't shoot, and is an above average defender. He Is not some game changer player and, much more importantly, there has been nothing to suggest he can be a big minute center in the league. Dude is 22 and has never played more than 20 minutes a game. Betting on his skillset magically becoming in vogue next year would be a monumentally stupid plan.
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Jul 25, 2017 18:53
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Noel could be interesting on the Nuggets next to Jokic, if not for Paul Millsap signing with the team as a free agent yeah baby go nuggets
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Jul 25, 2017 19:11
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Ammanas posted:The markets nowhere near there for backups, the position has been remarkably denigrated, the top 3 centers in the league are generally not even the most important players on their team Nikola Jokic. The Nuggets are going to take over the world this year and if you don't consider him a top 3 center you should watch him play!!!!!
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Jul 25, 2017 19:11
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Paul Zuvella posted:14.5 million a year seems fair for a Center who is extremely limited offensively and doesn't really rebound all that well. Yea I'm really not sure how its low balling when no one else is willing to pay more. Seems like smart use of money to me as bad as i want him signed and done
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Jul 25, 2017 19:29
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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/889916095448133632
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Jul 25, 2017 19:32
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Also https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/889916275580907521
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Jul 25, 2017 19:33
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Figured there'd be a pick involved from the Blazers but it's still probably ok for Brooklyn. They're going to be sort-of kind-of interesting next year Edit: nevermind, I knew his contract was bad but I forgot how bad
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Jul 25, 2017 19:35
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Don't really understand why the Nets are still trying to take on bad contracts. Sell tickets?
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Jul 25, 2017 19:35
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Let's go Nets get out of the top 5 👏👏👏
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Jul 25, 2017 19:36
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Brooklyn got their man I guess?
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Jul 25, 2017 19:36
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Doesn't Crabbe have a trade kicker as the cherry on top of that shitcake contract?
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Jul 25, 2017 19:37
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morestuff posted:Figured there'd be a pick involved from the Blazers but it's still probably ok for Brooklyn. They're going to be sort-of kind-of interesting next year Brooklyn was the team that originally tendered that contract
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Jul 25, 2017 19:37
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Lockback posted:Brooklyn got their man I guess? https://twitter.com/notgatherer/status/889917223938162688 
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Jul 25, 2017 19:37
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Doesn't Crabbe have a trade kicker as the cherry on top of that shitcake contract? Yes
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Jul 25, 2017 19:37
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If this is the set up to Ryan Anderson being dumped in Portland, I'm going to have quite a hearty chuckle.
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Jul 25, 2017 19:38
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I was promised by some random dude on twitter that Melo would be off my team today. I'm getting impatient over here.
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Jul 25, 2017 19:39
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Allen Crabbe was theoretically an NBAer at one point, so reclamation project?
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Jul 25, 2017 19:39
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:If this is the set up to Ryan Anderson being dumped in Portland, I'm going to have quite a hearty chuckle. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9zz8tev It's about to go down!
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Jul 25, 2017 19:42
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Allen Crabbe was theoretically an NBAer at one point, so reclamation project? He was an NBAer last year too but nobody noticed because his contract is really bad.
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