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Night10194 posted:Don't sell out the US This
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 02:59 |
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1. We don't negotiate with Russians when it will definitely screw us over. 2. Bring in the Dutch, we need all the help we can get.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 03:11 |
1 no 2 yes
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 03:13 |
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gently caress Russia Hell Yeah Dutch
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 03:18 |
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mcclay posted:gently caress Russia
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 03:32 |
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In agreement with the #$#! the Russians and Hire the Dutch Also, I vote we steal the bears the Russians rode in on too.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 03:58 |
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Dr. Snark posted:1. We don't negotiate with Russians when it will definitely screw us over. Yep, this
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 04:33 |
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Nyet Ja
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 04:43 |
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Night10194 posted:Don't sell out the US Well this might be the easiest vote the LP has ever seen.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 05:33 |
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I mean let's be fair, there's tons of good mercenary reasons not to do the Russian dance besides MURICA. First: Russia are assholes. Assholes screw you over. Second: The US has power and money. We want power and money. Three: The US is currently politically paralyzed. This means the US military is going to be looking for people without tied hands. People who can dip into that power/money combo they've got by killing some folks for them.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 05:36 |
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Night10194 posted:I mean let's be fair, there's tons of good mercenary reasons not to do the Russian dance besides MURICA. First: Russia are assholes. Assholes screw you over. Second: The US has power and money. We want power and money. Three: The US is currently politically paralyzed. This means the US military is going to be looking for people without tied hands. People who can dip into that power/money combo they've got by killing some folks for them. Also is bad idea to be known as untrustworthy in the merc field. That reputation could get us killed super hardcore.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 05:54 |
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No reason to stab potential customers Also put the Dutch on retainer because why not
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 06:23 |
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Nick Esasky posted:As it is, we hold air superiority in the theatre, with both BSNC and Iceberg having maybe 2-3 planes that could be called fighters left. Against that, we have 4 Gripens and 4 Falcons, with 5 Phantoms and 4 Kfirs that can also fill the role, if less capably. We have no major threats in the air unless either the US or Russia starts shooting us and move modern fighters in-theatre, in which case we're screwed even if we get 4-6 emergency reinforcements. This is true, but point of order, SMARF flies 4th generation fighters and we may well have to fight our way out through them. Even with all that, we had air superiority last mission and enemy planes still flew right by our helicopters. So we can still gently caress up, especially if Blue Star or Canada Express has something in reserve. Plus, all our Gripens are grounded for the next phase of this mission as we used them all last mission. That "half force" problem isn't going to go away by the time we receive reinforcements. quote:As far as unexpected A2G losses go and what they might mean, even beyond whatever multiroles we feel we can spare from CAP, which i feel is a large number, we have 8 Tornados, 2 AMXes, and 2 Mirages specifically meant to move mud, not to mention our various Sovcrap which would LOVE to go and bomb one of those big ol' FOBs or something. With the Mamba proved to be toothless, the Crotales around Savoonga blown up, and the Rolands in the area being unable to shoot munitions inbound to blow them up, i feel like the only real SAM threats are a)The Crotales around Gambell, which are far off from our area of interest; or b) MANPADs, which are going to be a threat wherever we overfly on the island. I could see us taking loses to carelessness or bad luck if we're feeling like hunting for targets below cloud level with Brimstones or Mavericks, but i don't see any ways we take significant losses if we use most of our planes to just drop Paveways/SPICES on things Cobbie says need to go away. After all, wasn't half the point of taking the risks associated with blasting a path to drop Cobbie in last mission the ability for him to find our targets for us instead of us having to gently caress about with Damocles pods in the shittiest of weather? I would agree that as long as we hold air superiority we control the pace of A2G operations. The only slight problem is if we have to at some point engage the Russian battlegroup, which would be suicide no matter what we have in the air. That thing can swat pretty much every missile we have out of the sky simultaneously, just look at all the systems that can engage "Missile" here. So we have to avoid doing that.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 06:27 |
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Presuming we have to engage the Russian battelgroup, is it possible to try and bluster and say we have the preserved bodies of Stalin and Lenin and hang them over a giant pit filled with sharks as a possible alternative?
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 07:19 |
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wedgekree posted:Presuming we have to engage the Russian battelgroup, is it possible to try and bluster and say we have the preserved bodies of Stalin and Lenin and hang them over a giant pit filled with sharks as a possible alternative? Given that Russia hasn't been Communist in quite some time, I doubt they'll really care.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 07:36 |
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What about the remains of Peter and Catherine the great?
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 12:18 |
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gently caress Russia, but make sweet love with the Dutch. Or something. The analogy doesn't really work.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 12:54 |
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Don't sell out Hire the Dutch
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 13:13 |
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Dont sell out, hire botes
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 13:16 |
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Brovine posted:gently caress Russia, but make sweet love with the Dutch. Or something. The analogy doesn't really work. No you were onto something there; marry, gently caress, kill. Marry the Dutch. Have a one-night stand with America. Kill everyone else who tries to cross us. It's that simple.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 13:20 |
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1. Don't sell out. 2. Hire botes. The botes could pick up Cobbie and friends on their way out.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 14:29 |
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Don't sell out, hire botes.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 14:36 |
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PenguinSalsa posted:The botes could pick up Cobbie and friends on their way out. Considering how well that seems to have went for everyone else, I doubt it.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 17:11 |
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All right, listen here, jabronis. First of all, sell the Navy out! We want the conflict to ramp right the gently caress up, because a) it's good for our bottom line, and b) well, I'm bored, brother! Second of all, bring the boats on side. Then use them as ablative armour in case of any trouble. Hopefully none of them make it out of the theatre and we don't have to pay them.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 20:49 |
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Tevery Best posted:All right, listen here, jabronis. My god you're insane! My choice would be; No to Russia and "If it ain't Dutch it ain't much!"
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 21:57 |
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The bote lobby votes gently caress Russia, hire all the botes. This message was approved by The Bote Lobby.
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 22:13 |
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Yooper is there any chance that we could have Cobbie's men on the ground inform the Russians about the Americans using captured enemy equipment if we have any or can acquire some. Could we make it look like the BSNC intercepted the transmission and passed it on to the Russians. Maybe include a note asking for Russian support for independence? I mean sure we don't gain any money but if we can start a conflict between Russia and America that could lead to more exciting opportunities for employment. Also hire the boats I guess? The question is if we do hire them how long are the hired for and will we get our moneys worth out of them?
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# ? Jul 25, 2017 23:52 |
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Dr. Snark posted:1. We don't negotiate with Russians when it will definitely screw us over. Hear hear.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 00:08 |
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koolkevz666 posted:Yooper is there any chance that we could have Cobbie's men on the ground inform the Russians about the Americans using captured enemy equipment if we have any or can acquire some. Could we make it look like the BSNC intercepted the transmission and passed it on to the Russians. Maybe include a note asking for Russian support for independence? I mean sure we don't gain any money but if we can start a conflict between Russia and America that could lead to more exciting opportunities for employment. That is quite possibly the worst of all of the retarded "Let's get an island " plans. The US government is pretty cyclic and, once they've gotten this idiocy out of their system, will want their lovely island back, if for no other reason than to send a message to the rest of the world/US. The Russians are just poo poo all over and will, at some later date, gently caress us and take the island anyway. A conflict between Russia and the US benefits the respective MICs and that's about it.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 00:33 |
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While I agree it's a terrible plan, keep in mind we are the MIC. Just, like, the Swedish one.
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Coffeehitler posted:That is quite possibly the worst of all of the retarded "Let's get an island " plans. The US government is pretty cyclic and, once they've gotten this idiocy out of their system, will want their lovely island back, if for no other reason than to send a message to the rest of the world/US. The Russians are just poo poo all over and will, at some later date, gently caress us and take the island anyway. A conflict between Russia and the US benefits the respective MICs and that's about it. What made you feel like i said this was a get our on island plan? My whole idea was to start a war between Russia and America with the hope of it creating more hiring opportunities for us Mercs. Try reading and understanding what I wrote instead of coming up with something different.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 01:51 |
If we do start a war, let's not literally be caught in the middle between the opposing nation's.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 02:16 |
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Let's just not start a war between nuclear armed nations. Seems simplest.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 02:54 |
sniper4625 posted:Let's just Fixed.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 03:16 |
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1. The Bear can get it's own set of goddamned coordinates! We will keep this honey pot safe at all costs! 2. They're better sailors than us right now, so of loving course! Always wanted to visit Holland one of these nights...bee-tee-dubs, if any of these fuckers have a sister (or twelve), I call first dibs! It's been six weeks since my last leave and dammit, I don't want you bastards screwing this up for me!
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 06:09 |
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The success of our company thus far has been almost entirely a result of a nuclear war, so I don't think it can be condemned outright. We just need the right kind of nuclear war.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 12:12 |
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Nuking Ivan has always been a righteous pursuit.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 13:33 |
Consider the US search grid to be safe. The US Navy will operate in that area and attempt to interdict the Russian battlegroup. Our fine Dutch friends are holding position and awaiting our orders. They seem a bit nervous, especially when Jack started texting them nudes. I'm not really sure why. Just, :jack:. In the next few days I'll get a mission pack together and we can start the planning. We're down a few planes due to previous usage. You'll also be able to define Cobbies goals, secure airfields, scout the area for a nuke, strike at BSNC, strike at Iceberg, etc. Our troop assets are limited so we can't do it all. There will also be a civilian jet flying south of our AOO that could use a fly by. More details to come!
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 13:46 |
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Dibs on the fly-by near the civvie jet.
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 13:54 |
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Hell no to the Russians Yea to the Dutch
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# ? Jul 26, 2017 13:56 |