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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Agean90 posted:

2018 will come down entirly to state amd local parties.

state and local parties will be irrelevant as poo poo in 2018, as they are every year

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Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

tbone!

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

He is a cuck.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
*monotone voice* I too am engulfed with anger

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


he is engulfed

that they will miss some poor people

he will not rest until they are all brought to heel

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
i too am engulfed in anger :geno:

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Al! posted:

remember that article posted earlier in the thread about the facebook cafeteria workers who live out of a garage? well they make like 17 and 19 an hour, which if my household was pulling in that kind of combined income id be sitting pretty even in overpriced hipstar rear end pdx. the bay area is a cyberpunk dystopian capitalist hellhole straight out of william gibson and its extremely rich white oligarchs see nothing wrong with that

the issue with bay area (and much of ca in general) is the extreme nimby-ism preventing the construction of new homes. local authorities are given wide discretion to prevent new homes from being built, so places like mountain view, menlo park, etc are outrageously expensive. the towns were all perfectly happy to accept the tax dollars and development provided by a huge new corporate campus, but object to actually allowing those employees to live there. new housing is still building at a fraction of what is needed in ca, although the legislature has been trying to pass stuff to alleviate the issue. last i checked jerry brown is being a big ol jackass though and demanding that building regulations (environmental reviews, etc) be loosened before he will approve any spending to build affordable housing.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

no, no, that's a fair take-- but the problem is that bad dems were promising that as long as they could keep winning they would get to the stuff people would ask for eventually. the problem is that they can't even do that anymore

by what justification do they continue to set the course for the party?

they set the course for the party because they spent two decades winning in such great numbers that they made up the bulk of party officials for a prolonged period of time, allowing them to reshape the party institutions in their image

"justification" has nothing to do with it. it's like whining about the Republicans not being bipartisan even though they lost the popular vote - they may not have a "mandate", but they have the seats and they have the power and that's all that loving matters

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

lol i just started a new twitter account to fork off all my abyss staring from professional relationships and within 10 seconds of creating it and following a few leftists it got locked for being a bot. i am fake news

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

The light of denying me cheaper medication from Canada.

ok

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Probably Magic posted:

The light of denying me cheaper medication from Canada.

ok

fun fact: cory booker actually ended up co-sponsoring bernie's re-importation bill

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

DWS is criminal scum

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

i'm hearing you love kaiser permanente and want to have its babies?

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Main Paineframe posted:

they set the course for the party because they spent two decades winning in such great numbers that they made up the bulk of party officials for a prolonged period of time, allowing them to reshape the party institutions in their image

"justification" has nothing to do with it. it's like whining about the Republicans not being bipartisan even though they lost the popular vote - they may not have a "mandate", but they have the seats and they have the power and that's all that loving matters

but they haven't won for the past ten, fifteen years now. it's like the original star trek movies where an aging and increasingly incompetent crew refuses to retire and provide jobs for a new generation.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
kaiser impermenente is my deathcore band

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
Suck Zone: I too am engulfed with anger. But I will never let them rob me of my Hot Pockets®!

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Concerned Citizen posted:

state and local parties will be irrelevant as poo poo in 2018, as they are every year

every single advancement the dems can make federally can be blocked in state legislatures and city councils. Either the national level dem party is now funding stay amd local races or your a drat moron who's never seen first hand what having fundies on the school board does.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Agean90 posted:

every single advancement the dems can make federally can be blocked in state legislatures and city councils. Either the national level dem party is now funding stay amd local races or your a drat moron who's never seen first hand what having fundies on the school board does.

what does your heart tell you?

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm concerned citizen and state and local parties are dumb and not worth winning

*supports Medicaid block grants*

*spent by Republican-led state and local governments on anything but medical care*

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
speaking of cc

quote:

Each monologue, each snide quip about NASCARnation was meant to affirm the viewers’ sense that they felt the right feelings, saw the world the right way, and, most importantly, weren’t hateful slobs who refused to floss their only tooth while singin’ the songs of that old time religion. Never mind that most liberal policies are now built around marshalling state violence to immiserate and discipline minorities and working class whites, or marshalling state violence to needlessly carpet-bomb the Middle East or go Zero Dark Thirty on some children (remember: consensus!). This largely took the aesthetic form of lectureporn. It is the apex of narcissistic supply delivery.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/lectureporn-the-vulgar-art-of-liberal-narcissism.html

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



Scent of Worf posted:

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/890015964980490240

You guys ready for the draft? I'm ready to do my time.. in jail, cause i'm dodging :coolfish:

Luckily I am an old and a drug user, so I will be dead of a lack of healthcare in one of Jeff Session's weedprisons while you younguns are dying in the mountains of Iran.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


State and local parties have no use, also we need to get more people out to vote. *loses all 3 branches of government*

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


butt-edge-edge

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Jazerus posted:

butt-edge-edge

bootyjig

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Agean90 posted:

every single advancement the dems can make federally can be blocked in state legislatures and city councils. Either the national level dem party is now funding stay amd local races or your a drat moron who's never seen first hand what having fundies on the school board does.

i am well aware of the consequences of local elections, that does not mean the route to winning those local elections is through state and local parties.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

I'm concerned citizen and state and local parties are dumb and not worth winning

*supports Medicaid block grants*

*spent by Republican-led state and local governments on anything but medical care*

hey did you recruit any candidates yet

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Jazerus posted:

butt-edge-edge

WHOA don't come into our zone and degrade leftism like that you neolib shill

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

the suck zone: engulfed with anger

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
*fixes hair, straightens shirt, calms down* buttigieg

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Concerned Citizen posted:

hey did you recruit any candidates yet

lol you are such a piece of poo poo

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


logikv9 posted:

*fixes hair, straightens shirt, calms down* buttigieg

booty judge

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
buttergreg

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/890038232154615808

remember last year when THE EMAILS revealed all the widespread corruption and favoritism within the DNC but we had to sweep it all under the rug because donald loving trump wasn't actually the joke candidate everyone thought he was? :allears:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol you are such a piece of poo poo

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Scent of Worf posted:

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/890038232154615808

remember last year when THE EMAILS revealed all the widespread corruption and favoritism within the DNC but we had to sweep it all under the rug because donald loving trump wasn't actually the joke candidate everyone thought he was? :allears:

ah yes the widespread corruption uncovered by the emails, who can forget. like the folder titled 'pay to play' that was actually a gop oppo file, or the random guy who said a mean thing about bernie

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol you are such a piece of poo poo

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol you are such a piece of poo poo

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

logikv9 posted:

WHOA don't come into our zone and degrade leftism like that you neolib shill

leftizm sux!!!

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
suckzone: mentally masturbating to some hardcore lectureporn

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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Concerned Citizen posted:

i am well aware of the consequences of local elections, that does not mean the route to winning those local elections is through state and local parties.

if the state and local parties cant win elections then theres no reason for them to exist, and since the dems cant win national level elections welp

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