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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah pretty much. you dont have to go full chapo socialism to win(it would loving help alot) but you need someone good. but the DNC is to busy getting loving asshurt at people saying "bend the knee" and trying to keep the west wing fugue state alive. we have to start playing in the mud with the loving elephants instead of doing loving nothing and getting mad when someone forgets a newly added phrase to the idpol bullshit. https://apnews.com/a29855adf6f248e0a5207ffd1e981855?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP Hey check it out. Someone who you can use to hit the republicans over the head with. This is a loving joke that this is happening in the richest goddamn country on the face of the earth. There's tons of horrible poo poo you could use, but the dems are too terrified of doing that because it'll piss off their donors.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://apnews.com/a29855adf6f248e0a5207ffd1e981855?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP The Republicans won't give a gently caress though I mean as far as they're concerned this is the system working as intended
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You don't need full socialism, just some actual loving popular policies for once rather than just carrying water for the donor class. I would like the parties to move left too but first and foremost they need to stop being glorified pass-throughs for rich assholes. There is a large set of policies that have bipartisan appeal but they're never put on the table by either party because the donors and rich multinationals say no. MaxxBot has issued a correction as of 06:05 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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I wish I was smart enough to come up with some kind of program, or maybe an app, that tracked how many posts involved the phrase "you don't need full socialism".
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The point of the post was not arguing against socialism  . I'm just saying that if the Dems just stopped the shameless shilling for corporate interests they might win more elections.
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MaxxBot posted:The point of the post was not arguing against socialism I don't think a lot of people would be rallying around the causes of socialism if the democrats had not been spending every chance they've had since 1992 or so pretending to be moderate republicans. We're not having this conversation had the Clinton's not bungled single payer in 1992. We're not having having this conversation had they not deregulated a good chunk of wall street. We're also not having this conversation if Obama had bailed out main street, not wall street. They had their chances time and time again, when the time was there? they hosed up.
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https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/890181187674746880 I hate everything.
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HIJK posted:Isn't Rolling Stone the magazine that got savaged by WashPo for generating a fake news story? yep
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That article better just read NO HE ISN'T STOP IT
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FuzzySkinner posted:I don't think a lot of people would be rallying around the causes of socialism if the democrats had not been spending every chance they've had since 1992 or so pretending to be moderate republicans. Pretty much, could've gone Full Truman back in 1945 and built up from there. https://www.trumanlibrary.org/anniversaries/healthprogram.htm Edit: Though, at a risk of a derail is he claiming there that the "very poor" live longer then the middle class or am I reading that wrong? 
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Nckdictator posted:Pretty much, could've gone Full Truman back in 1945 and built up from there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights The 2nd Bill of Rights is also my jam.
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Byolante posted:I'm the guy who thinks a wealth doctrinal Christian fundamentalist would be less bad than a guy who happily held up a rainbow flag https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/890350260551340039
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Sessions isn't Trump, thats still a super lovely thing to do, its still not as bad as arguing for spending tax dollars on pray the gay away reeducation camps
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tbqh I do wish Trudeau was my head of state/government/whatever because that means I'd be Canadian and have free healthcare and poo poo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nakK_UIc1bI& ESPN voice over voice: SWARTHMORE COLLEGE!
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really queer Christmas posted:As JEB! is led to the guillotine he feels a deep sadness in his heart. "Slow and steady...you know" he wistfully remembers. As his head is placed into the machine, his eyes well up with tears unable to believe what is happening. he musters every ounce of strength he has as he mutters "Please...Clap" JEB! is a far-left anarchist now so I don't see him being guillotined.
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I don't get it, they could just give all their money and possessions away.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:JEB! is a far-left anarchist now so I don't see him being guillotined. 
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MaxxBot posted:You don't need full socialism, just some actual loving popular policies for once rather than just carrying water for the donor class. I would like the parties to move left too but first and foremost they need to stop being glorified pass-throughs for rich assholes. Yep. There's some policies where the difference in public support vs. congressional support is staggering. Universal healthcare, net neutrality, importing prescriptions, indiscriminate surveillance, weed legality, fixing the deficit with higher taxes on the 1%, and of course, the All-Father, campaign finance reform.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Yep. There's some policies where the difference in public support vs. congressional support is staggering. Universal healthcare, net neutrality, importing prescriptions, indiscriminate surveillance, weed legality, fixing the deficit with higher taxes on the 1%, and of course, the All-Father, campaign finance reform. quote:Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.
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uhh I think you'll find that corporations are actually many people and this democracy is working as intended 
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https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/891000841846624257 Alex Jones called. He wants his schtick back.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/891000841846624257 ICE detention centers aren't new, people are already getting sick and dying due to overcrowding and lack of medical care. The only thing mockable in the tweet is that he's acting like we aren't already there.
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an actual dog posted:ICE detention centers aren't new, people are already getting sick and dying due to overcrowding and lack of medical care. The only thing mockable in the tweet is that he's acting like we aren't already there. Absolutely. I think there are absolutely are things to attack Trump over, but a good portion of the stuff he's done "wrong" have been things that mainstream democrats and republicans as a whole have already ventured into. I think what frustrates about me the immigration issue is two fold. The GOP just wanting to throw everyone out, and the Dems wanting to keep the status quo for the most part. It shouldn't be that hard to say "Allow people in/keep people in. Punish companies/people that pay below minimum wage. Deport legit criminals. Tell Mexico to fix it's poo poo". I don't think that's entirely unfair to say. The guy running the Mexican restaurant down the street or the dude's working the field should stay. But the latter shouldn't be hosed out of a paycheck.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/891000841846624257 Been trying to figure out exactly why the #resistance is so obnoxious, I think it's got something to do with how performative it is. At least that's my best guess for why I stopped this video ten seconds in.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Been trying to figure out exactly why the #resistance is so obnoxious, I think it's got something to do with how performative it is. At least that's my best guess for why I stopped this video ten seconds in. Be careful, the 'virtue signaling isn't real' people stalk the forums looking for wrong think.
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Byolante posted:Be careful, the 'virtue signaling isn't real' people stalk the forums looking for wrong think. Well I also hate the phrase virtue signalling because it so often implies people only do good things to look good.
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I'm not a fan of the term but I think it's an apt description for people like Arthur Chu who never actually do good things but spend all day sitting on twitter making for drat sure you know that they have Correct Opinions.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Well I also hate the phrase virtue signalling because it so often implies people only do good things to look good. like a lot of terms online, it's a good phrase that gets overused by idiots until it becomes a parody of itself. Like privilege, for instance.
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MaxxBot posted:I'm not a fan of the term but I think it's an apt description for people like Arthur Chu who never actually do good things but spend all day sitting on twitter making for drat sure you know that they have Correct Opinions. yeah, its overused as gently caress but it fits to an extent. chu, moviebob/ tosh to an extent and others do it. i think they do believe what they say, they just do it loudly to show how great and progressive they are. all those alt right dipshits do they same thing.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Been trying to figure out exactly why the #resistance is so obnoxious, I think it's got something to do with how performative it is. At least that's my best guess for why I stopped this video ten seconds in. It's a group of bourgeois democrats and republicans going against Trump not based on policy, but rather based on his decorum. They'll let people like Evan McMullin, Glenn Beck, The Bush Family's and others into their ranks because "They're GOOD Republicans" or whatever the gently caress.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, its overused as gently caress but it fits to an extent. chu, moviebob/ tosh to an extent and others do it. i think they do believe what they say, they just do it loudly to show how great and progressive they are. all those alt right dipshits do they same thing. Chu is the greatest example. A man that constantly bitches about how horrible white people are, yet lives in the whitest, richest suburb of cleveland. If he actually hated white people? He'd live in East Cleveland or at the very least? Lakewood. He also routinely treated his wife like trash, made her run errands and treated her the very definition of how one would think a sexist would treat his wife. I really wish people in his community would exile him.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Chu is the greatest example. apperently he isnt well liked. most of the people i mentioned arnt well liked in the woke community for various reasons.
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"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Matthew 6:5 shits old yo, anyone who says it doesn't exist is a hack
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I'd rather not join "The Resistance". It feels like their goals are not in "alliance" with my own. They seem more so interested in bringing back the West Wing fantasy than advocating for left wing reforms of the government. On the flip side? I don't exactly agree with everything that the DSA is for but I feel like I'm much more likely to be in their camp.
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