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Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Pretty sure the dude behind the counter is the one shooting there.

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Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Was he? I'll have to rewatch it when I get home to see what details I missed; I figured the owner was in on things as he didn't look like he cowered to the officer, never spoke to him in German and looked like he generally resented the guy (and also why else would we just wander into some random diner that was about to close).

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




kefkafloyd posted:

RTCW with OSP, 7v7 mp_base is the distilled perfection of multiplayer team-based FPS and nothing since has matched or exceeded it.

Testify brother, testify.

Although pulling off a minimum time win on mp_beach was always deeply satisfying.

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet
I'm guessing that the diner owner was who BJ was supposed to meet up with but then the nazi walked in and derailed it

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses

Psychotic Weasel posted:

Was he? I'll have to rewatch it when I get home to see what details I missed; I figured the owner was in on things as he didn't look like he cowered to the officer, never spoke to him in German and looked like he generally resented the guy (and also why else would we just wander into some random diner that was about to close).

The guy behind the counter is part of the resistance, he's the guy going on about space aliens in this video. Even wearing the same turtleneck.

Werix
Sep 13, 2012

#acolyte GM of 2013

kefkafloyd posted:

The guy behind the counter is part of the resistance, he's the guy going on about space aliens in this video. Even wearing the same turtleneck.

Good catch there.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Can we talk about the fact that BJ is just strolling through the city with an atomic bomb disguised as a fire extinguisher?

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
A shame it is not a suitcase. Would have brought back fond memories.

Two Owls
Sep 17, 2016

Yeah, count me in

Also, that seems like unambiguous confirmation that Hitler's still alive.

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?


Depends on what you define as living

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
But der Führer ist ein großer Autor und Maler - how could he not be alive?

Watching that again I see that yes, it is likely the guy behind the counter who draws first. He has his eyes on the officer for the entire conversation and then as the officer reaches for his gun at the end you can see turtle neck guy go for something just out of your peripheral vision. I guess BJ will need to find someone else to beat to death. Doesn't look like the place was short on targets though!

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
BJ, you've gotten old if it took you that long to grab something sharp and throw it through his skull.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead

Two Owls posted:

Also, that seems like unambiguous confirmation that Hitler's still alive.
He got better.

Dangerous Person
Apr 4, 2011

Not dead yet
I sincerely hope that in this game or the next we get to see the zombie Hitler that The Old Blood alluded to

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Psychotic Weasel posted:

But der Führer ist ein großer Autor und Maler - how could he not be alive?

Watching that again I see that yes, it is likely the guy behind the counter who draws first. He has his eyes on the officer for the entire conversation and then as the officer reaches for his gun at the end you can see turtle neck guy go for something just out of your peripheral vision. I guess BJ will need to find someone else to beat to death. Doesn't look like the place was short on targets though!

This is the most likely scenario, given that I'm 99% sure the guy behind the counter is the same resistance fighter from the original trailer, right down to the same turtleneck.



Bolow
Feb 27, 2007

Did I hear that radio conversation right? BJ is going to nuke the goddamn German High Command in the US?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It's 1961, Hitler was born in 1889. Even without crazy Wolfenstein Nazi tech it wouldn't be weird for him to be alive.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Bolow posted:

Did I hear that radio conversation right? BJ is going to nuke the goddamn German High Command in the US?

Having already survived one nuclear explosion, Terror Billy can now just casually walk into places carrying a nuclear bomb, set it off, and stroll out of the mushroom cloud with sunglasses on, flicking a cigarette away in slow motion.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Grand Fromage posted:

It's 1961, Hitler was born in 1889. Even without crazy Wolfenstein Nazi tech it wouldn't be weird for him to be alive.

The reason people think it would be weird for Hitler to be alive is because you killed him at the end of Wolf 3D. Hence the predictions of zombie hitler.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

CJacobs posted:

The reason people think it would be weird for Hitler to be alive is because you killed him at the end of Wolf 3D. Hence the predictions of zombie hitler.

gently caress are you talking about, he barely died







CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
I have always enjoyed that even his gatling guns melt into ooze.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

his heads still intact. if the resistance has the know how to attach bj's head to another body, then the nazis must know how too!!!

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

gently caress are you talking about, he barely died









The slurping noise he makes as he melts is :barf:

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Bolow posted:

Did I hear that radio conversation right? BJ is going to nuke the goddamn German High Command in the US?

I mean, they have all these nuclear warheads just lying around, gotta get some use out of'em.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Kai Tave posted:

I mean, they have all these nuclear warheads just lying around, gotta get some use out of'em.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

Hitler... we meet again. - BJ in Wolfenstein III. Maybe.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

MachineGames' writing is miles ahead of most AAA games but I hope they don't go overboard with all the scripted events and stop and talk sections like the Milkshake Nazi/Frau Engel's train scene/Helga's interrogation (people loved the train one and they're really going with it aren't they) or the incinerator room, underwater Jewish tech cache thingamabobs and such. The best areas of these games for me were the semi-open ended levels where you approach sections your way while you hear BJ's depressive/occasionally tough guy monologues and sometimes get contacted by one of his allies. When they start going heavily into the Half-Life 2/Call of Duty/modern video game route where you're locked into linear events I start falling asleep, much more so during replays where you can do nothing except run/look around the room waiting for characters to shut up and do their thing so you can move on. There was so much raving about the writing once TNO came out and mentions about how the gameplay dragged it down that I'm still slightly cautious until release that the cutscene to gameplay ratio isn't heavily skewed towards the former.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
We actually kill Hitler repeatedly in Wolf3D, he just won't stay down...



But after that he's never heard from or seen again so that's why people are curious. Also a certain flub from a voice actor in the game also spoiled a bit of the surprise.

Werix
Sep 13, 2012

#acolyte GM of 2013
Rock Paper Shotgun has a new article on the Roswell level they tried.

Some highlights are:

RPS posted:

“We had this idea that the Nazis would paint BJ as public enemy number one,” explains Jens Matthies, creative director. “There would be posters of him everywhere, he would be this terrorist threat that they could use to scare people, galvanise them against the resistance. They call him Terror Billy, right? And so we explained that to the marketing department, and they had this idea: well, what if we make him a physical action figure? And we said: how does that make sense – they wouldn’t make one for their enemy, right? Well yeah – but they would if he was the enemy as part of a larger set of heroes. And so their version of GI Joe is Elite Hans, and the villain, the Skeletor of that toy set is BJ Blazkowicz. And we said: yeah, that’s super-cool – we can put that in the game! It became this virtuous cycle of cool stuff.”

“You mean you had your own marketing staff create promotional materials for National Socialism?” I ask. “That’s an interesting way of spinning it!” Matthies laughs. He glances across the room at the PR man handling our interview, who smiles patiently. “Did you hear that over there? Never mind.”

RPS posted:

Outside a gas station, an officer berates cowed Ku Klux Klan members about their German pronunciation. A local girl moons over a guard, only to get herself into hot water when she sneers at the Fuhrer’s native Austria. Newspapers carry quotes lambasting the press as a cancer, and housewives chat enthusiastically about the revival of slavery.

RPS posted:

we can’t do this in the first game, just in a level where BJ goes to the US, because it’s too big and it’s too significant for him, to have his mortal enemy take over his homeland. This needs its own game. So we were always building towards it – if we had the opportunity to do a sequel, that’s where we’re going to go.

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

WARNING SPOILERS but new details on a mission mid game from Kinda Funny Games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmmKQWImjAE

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
We're still 4 months out from the release of this game, why are people already spoiling this poo poo? :argh: :argh: :argh:

I don't plan on watching those but I know someone is going to run their mouth sooner or later and ruin it anyway.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

No, Jeb!!! What are you doing Jeb!!!!!!

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Psychotic Weasel posted:

We're still 4 months out from the release of this game, why are people already spoiling this poo poo? :argh: :argh: :argh:

I don't plan on watching those but I know someone is going to run their mouth sooner or later and ruin it anyway.
[spioler]The BJ in The New Colossus is actually the son of Rudi Jäger, with transplanted memories and a remodeled face.[/spoiler]

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Ja, ein "hot dog".

kefkafloyd
Jun 8, 2006

What really knocked me out
Was her cheap sunglasses
Ars Technica has a preview video up as well. It's a lot less spoilery than that other video, but does talk about some things relating to after the diner scene.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/07/wolfenstein-2-pc-gameplay-preview/

kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 27, 2017

XavierGenisi
Nov 7, 2009

:dukedog:

https://bethesda.net/en/article/4KgYy6Fd2gEOeumkGekwgy/wolfenstein-ii-the-freedom-chronicles-season-pass-and-pre-order

Wolfenstein 2 is going to have DLC/a season pass. It's for more single player content. Three different stories where you play as three different new characters fighting nazis to free America. And if you pre-order the game (or buy the season pass), you get an "Episode Zero" dlc that introduces you to the three DLC characters.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004

Bang! You're dead.
Insert [fry-shutupandtakemymoney.jpg] here.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Since you're going to Area 52, I hope and pray that you can recruit a space alien as one of your allies.

E: Seems weapon upgrading is back and it looks to be on about the same level as Wolfenstein 09, so nothing overwhelming.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Jul 27, 2017

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

Crabtree posted:

BJ, you've gotten old if it took you that long to grab something sharp and throw it through his skull.
BJ is literally 50 years old in this game

XavierGenisi posted:

https://bethesda.net/en/article/4KgYy6Fd2gEOeumkGekwgy/wolfenstein-ii-the-freedom-chronicles-season-pass-and-pre-order

Wolfenstein 2 is going to have DLC/a season pass. It's for more single player content. Three different stories where you play as three different new characters fighting nazis to free America. And if you pre-order the game (or buy the season pass), you get an "Episode Zero" dlc that introduces you to the three DLC characters.
I've been roped into pre-ordering so many times the only way I'm paying to get poo poo that won't exist for a year, is if I have irrefutable proof it's just not going to be availible later as just another DLC. Off the top of my head the only (gameplay) pre-order bonus that stayed exclusive was Evil Within, which to this day is unavailible.

"But Sputnik, you'll save :10bux: on the bundle"

So I'll be a rich sucker who can play the DLC on the same day as anyone who didn't pre-order, No Thanks.

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Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Or is it Sputnik posted:

BJ is literally 50 years old in this game

I've been roped into pre-ordering so many times the only way I'm paying to get poo poo that won't exist for a year, is if I have irrefutable proof it's just not going to be availible later as just another DLC. Off the top of my head the only (gameplay) pre-order bonus that stayed exclusive was Evil Within, which to this day is unavailible.

"But Sputnik, you'll save :10bux: on the bundle"

So I'll be a rich sucker who can play the DLC on the same day as anyone who didn't pre-order, No Thanks.

Click the link, the preorder DLC is also part of the season pass.

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