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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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Angepain posted:In news that I'm sure will be treated with maturity and reason by all political thinkers in the country, Kezia Dugdale is currently dating a SNP MSP. maybe bipartisanship isn't dead forever. Good for them. May they be happy together. And even happier when Kezia resigns as Scottish Labour leader to be replaced by a socialist.
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Corbyn benefits from a Tory government because they're poo poo, does Corbyn secretly want the Tories in power????????
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Jul 16, 2017 04:36
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Coohoolin posted:Corbyn benefits from a Tory government because they're poo poo, does Corbyn secretly want the Tories in power???????? "What's the difference between local politics and national politics?" - Mr C. Hoolin, Aberdeen
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Jul 16, 2017 08:08
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On a different note, the joys of Scottish sectarian idiots: http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15413766.Outrage_over_Orange_hall_Halloween_partygoers_dressed_as_Hitler_and_the_Pope/?ref=twtrec
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Jul 16, 2017 12:52
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Coohoolin posted:Corbyn benefits from a Tory government because they're poo poo, does Corbyn secretly want the Tories in power???????? Corbyn wants to be Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, something that cannot happen with the Tories in power. The SNP want Scottish independence, something that is exponentially less likely without the Tories in power. If that's the level of comparison you've got in your arsenal after all those years at uni you should ask for a refund.
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Jul 16, 2017 13:44
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15428282.Wings_Over_Scotland_increases_defamation_claim_against_Kezia_Dugdale_to___25_000/?ref=mrb&lp=3quote:A PRO-INDEPENDENCE blogger is suing Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale for £25,000 after she accused him of homophobia. I'm sure that'll go well for him when all his past comments about Hillsborough and trans people get read out in court. Also is speech in the Scottish parliament not privileged the same way as Westminster ?
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Jul 24, 2017 18:56
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jre posted:
Erskine May's Parliamentary Practice doesn't discuss devolved governments for obvious reasons, so it's never been properly codified, and has been seen as a grey area as local government doesn't get get the same protections . It would be a test case, if it actually gets anywhere.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:03
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Didnt Dugdale first say it in a newspaper article? I hope the oval office tries to represent himself in court again. And, of course, there's yet another crowdfunder.
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Jul 24, 2017 21:25
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jre posted:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15428282.Wings_Over_Scotland_increases_defamation_claim_against_Kezia_Dugdale_to___25_000/?ref=mrb&lp=3 Stuart Campbell is an utter prick and I hope he winds up with a big bill over this, but why on earth was Kezi Dugdale talking about witless bloggers in Parliament?
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Jul 24, 2017 22:17
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Niric posted:Stuart Campbell is an utter prick and I hope he winds up with a big bill over this, but why on earth was Kezi Dugdale talking about witless bloggers in Parliament? Calling out the SNP MSPs for supporting him apparently
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Jul 24, 2017 23:38
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jre posted:Calling out the SNP MSPs for supporting him apparently Well that's a slippery as hell slope and a massive can of worms for Kezia Dugdale of all people to open up.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:17
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Whatabouttery incoming.
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Jul 25, 2017 00:19
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jre posted:http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15428282.Wings_Over_Scotland_increases_defamation_claim_against_Kezia_Dugdale_to___25_000/?ref=mrb&lp=3 I'm sure he'll try to block the court like he does anyone else who brings it up. Also I'm always amused that they constantly bring up that he lives in Bath. Everytime he gets mentioned its 'bath based'.
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Jul 25, 2017 02:45
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serious gaylord posted:I'm sure he'll try to block the court like he does anyone else who brings it up. It annoys me that the papers manage to mention that Stuart Campbell lives in his bath all the time and yet don't mention "Disgraced former Defence Secretary Liam Fox". Anyway, hope Campbell loses, has to pay through the nose in costs & ends up shutting down his lovely website. Though I'm sure instead he'll just crowdfund any money he has to pay and not miss a beat. What a oval office. The nats really can do better. And should.
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Jul 25, 2017 11:55
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While the money won't hurt him being the fact that he could be described as a homophobe without being able to fall back on his usual litigious bullyboy tactic will be good enough.
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Jul 25, 2017 13:34
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jre posted:I'm sure that'll go well for him when all his past comments about Hillsborough and trans people get read out in court. The Hillsborough comments were part of an earlier case Campbell brought against The Scotsman in 2014, which ended up with them paying Campbell more than £6000 in damages.
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Jul 25, 2017 14:19
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baronvonsabre posted:The Hillsborough comments were part of an earlier case Campbell brought against The Scotsman in 2014, which ended up with them paying Campbell more than £6000 in damages. There was no case brought, they settled out of court. Which was a strange decision on the Scotman's part: quote:Campbell also denied a claim in the Scotsman article that he had once blamed the 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster for the crush that killed them, and said he had in fact said that other Liverpool fans there on the day “were partly culpable for the deaths of the 96”, not the victims themselves. as given the victims were also Liverpool fans it seems the difference between victim and perpetrator in Campbell's eyes is whether they lived or died on the day. Despite everything that's happened in the last few years, he still considers Liverpool fans to be to blame for Hillsborough.
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Jul 25, 2017 14:31
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Oh yeah, not defending the piece of poo poo in the slightest. I'm just pointing out that he has done this before and made a tidy sum out of it.
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Jul 25, 2017 14:40
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He's also represented himself in court and lost. It's popcorn time.
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Jul 25, 2017 14:42
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Pissflaps posted:There was no case brought, they settled out of court. Which was a strange decision on the Scotman's part: maybe they thought the chances of actually recovering their costs from Cambell in the event of victory were too low to be worth bothering. £6k is practically nothing in libel damages
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Jul 25, 2017 14:42
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Interesting twitter thread about the Scottish Government releasing the grandiosely named The Report of the Initial Findings of the International Council of Education Advisers without telling anyone. The suggestion being that its less than fulsome praise for current policy/implementation means than the Government would prefer everyone - including the ministers the council was set up to advise - to ignore it. It's only 4 pages so I'd recommend skimming it at the very least https://twitter.com/MrMcEnaney/status/889931563940683778 I'm rather reminded of the SNP's "council of economic advisers" from a few years back, which included people like John Key and Stiglitz. but which never seemed to be much more than a PR exercise for the Government, wanting the cache of expertise without using it for anything. I can't recall anything substantial coming from it, nor any instances where the Scottish Government altered policy based on its recommendations. Is it even still going?
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Jul 26, 2017 10:08
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As this is now the Stuart Campbell thread it's interesting to note he's in the middle of a multi tweet transphobic rant. Funny how he's he poster child for the supposedly progressive Yes movement.
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Jul 26, 2017 18:57
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Pissflaps posted:As this is now the Stuart Campbell thread it's interesting to note he's in the middle of a multi tweet transphobic rant. He's not a loving poster child, he's a oval office with a loud voice who happened to start his blog at a time where there was a dearth of even low quality positive coverage of Scottish independence. I don't think that makes him a poster child. Prominent figure, sure, but an embodiment of the "movement"? Naw, cool your boots.
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Jul 26, 2017 19:12
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He was such a towering figurehead of the movement that he appeared on TV...like once or twice...for 5 minutes...as a talking head...on Scotland Tonight. He's an idiot with a cult of dedicated ATM's and delusions of grandeur. Calling him a "posterboy" just serves to fuel his ego even more. Hopefully he bankrupts/humiliates himself in court and kindly does us the pleasure of loving off forever.
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Jul 26, 2017 19:51
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I think many nationalists would disagree with you.
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Jul 26, 2017 20:01
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Cool. Good to know. Even if you're right, doesn't make him a poster child.
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Jul 26, 2017 20:09
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Whilst I would disagree with the term 'poster child' he does have a lot of reach amongst digital pro-indy sources. He's got more followers than Bella Caledonia etc and he's the go to source for social media posts about Independence. I think everyone here would be happy if he just went away but he does have a dedicated following and his message does spread quite far, and far better than any other digital pro-indy source.
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Jul 27, 2017 09:33
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Pissflaps posted:As this is now the Stuart Campbell thread it's interesting to note he's in the middle of a multi tweet transphobic rant. Plz don't use the transgender community as your political prop you craven shill.
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Jul 28, 2017 04:52
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cis autodrag posted:Plz don't use the transgender community as your political prop you craven shill. While I can't really disagree with this, and Flaps' naked yearning that every person who ever thought positively about independence is exactly the same as the worst dickheads on twitter he seeks out for fun is 100% transparent at this point, it should be noted that Campbell is genuinely and consistently a poo poo on trans issues in an edgy "i'm not transphobic because I don't hate trans people i just refuse to ever respect their pronouns is all, also any attack on me is an attack on The Yes Movement how dare you" style. He at least doesn't seem to be getting much support on that particular front from anyone who matters, though.
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Jul 28, 2017 10:24
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Stuart is pretty much a man who is thin-skinned whenever someone calls him out on his bullshit.Leggsy posted:Hopefully he bankrupts/humiliates himself in court and kindly does us the pleasure of loving off forever. You can't get rid of cancer sadly. Even if he fucks himself, he will still do his usual lowcow tendencies on social media and his blog and still have a number of followers.
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Jul 28, 2017 18:36
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 Isn't that the same as the SNP's old pitch for Independence?
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Jul 30, 2017 18:33
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Maybe this time it'll be a Scottish pound ? They've tried all the other options.
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Jul 30, 2017 19:59
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mediadave posted:
It only works if they actually act left wing at Holyrood too. And that's not happening.
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Jul 30, 2017 20:08
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As much as I'd like to ignore it. This Wings thing is actually looking like it's going to open a pretty big schism between the Zoomers and the non-shitheads within the Yes movement. Thankfully, it means that people actually have to take a side on whether to condemn or support him. Let's start with Left-wing and openly LGBT MP, Mhairi Black. Should be a slam-dunk for the "non-shithead" faction, right?: https://twitter.com/_CaitLogan/status/891629793552347137 Oh...oh no...
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Jul 30, 2017 21:43
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Maybe she was convinced by Campbell's literal 'I said a nice thing about a gay person in 2013' defence?
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Jul 30, 2017 21:46
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Leggsy posted:As much as I'd like to ignore it. This Wings thing is actually looking like it's going to open a pretty big schism between the Zoomers and the non-shitheads within the Yes movement. Thankfully, it means that people actually have to take a side on whether to condemn or support him. I look forward to coohoolin breathlessly rushing into the thread to tell us that a
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Jul 30, 2017 21:48
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Of course Stuart Campbell went right on the offensive against her and unleashed his troll army against the lass.
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Jul 30, 2017 21:50
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ahh time for another lovely round of Let's Be Tommy Sheridan
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Jul 30, 2017 22:25
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Stuart Campbell's power and influence was pretty much done with about a year ago. It's all just Twitter drama now, the actual media don't give a poo poo about this court case.
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Extreme0 posted:You can't get rid of cancer sadly. Evident by pissflaps' continued posting in this thread tbh
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