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Yinlock posted:how can you say you've lived if you haven't put in a hard day's work in the code mines id rather not have bit lung thank you
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ex post facho posted:its also completely obvious that the push for "better skills" is to specifically drive down labor prices in the technology secotr, no wonder its being championed by bad dems it's all a conspiracy by Big Tech
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LinYutang posted:I was poor and taught myself to code for free, now I have a stable fun job and could move anywhere really They really need to include Economics somewhere in STEM education. Right now, there's a large demand for coders. How much of it is real and how much of it is artificial is up for debate, but enough of it is artificial that it's plainly obvious that by the next decade, the market will be flooded with entry level coders and exceed the demand for those types, necessitating in the raising of requirements and/or the lower of wages. Simply, supply is looking to overtake demand so market forces will push to reduce cost or increase the quality of supply to keep with demand.
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Here on Destruction Eve, maybe its worth checking something else. Shag has another Shag book of the week for you. The Utopia of Rules From the sociologist who wrote Debt: The First 5,000 Years. Here's an excerpt: quote:We no longer like to think about bureaucracy, yet it informs every aspect of our existence. It's as if, as a planetary civilization, we have decided to clap our hands over our ears and start humming whenever the topic comes up. Insofar as we are even willing to discuss it, it's still in the terms popular in the sixties and early seventies. The social movements of the sixties were, on the whole, left-wing in inspiration, but they were also rebellions against bureaucracy, or, to put it more accurately, rebellions against the bureaucratic mindset, against the soul-destroying conformity of the postwar welfare states. In the face of the gray functionaries of both state-capitalist and state-socialist regimes, sixties rebels stood for individual expression and spontaneous conviviality, and against ("rules and regulations, who needs them?") every form of social control. http://www.npr.org/books/titles/387300564/the-utopia-of-rules-on-technology-stupidity-and-the-secret-joys-of-bureaucracy#excerpt
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Shab posted:If AI is creatively coding to solve ad hoc problems "in a few years" we've got bigger things to worry about than middle class jobs my "uncle" who works at "nintendo" tells me that ai is way further along than anyone knows about
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Epic High Five posted:IT management fuckin rules 
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"learn how to code" i tell everybody i encounter "why are there so many coders now  " i also wonder a few years later
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7 years. They've had 7 years and this is the best they can come up with and this idiocy will pass https://twitter.com/CAPAction/status/890597219186900995
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lol this loving picture is real life https://twitter.com/michaelcbender/status/890607726731997184
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:
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MysteriousStranger posted:Coding jobs are being outsourced as fast as possible. The ones that aren't require a clearance. The best thing to do is get a clearance and work as a consultant coding what can't be outsourced for a firm that also makes money consulting on the outsourcing of all those jobs. the coders for my company are all based out of the ukraine lollllll
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the GAO has literally never mattered at all
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a coder will make a program that will render coding obsolete so good luck!!
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Xelkelvos posted:They really need to include Economics somewhere in STEM education. If they really seriously want better programmers they should ditch the coding boot camps and teach better critical thinking, logic, and math skillls. Period.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:lmao they went directly from "yeah I guess that's fairly normal for someone who plays golf every weekend of all time" to "Dear leader Kim Jong Trump is master of all sports" Dear Donald was born on Mount Washington to the auspices of 7 bald eagles
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life inmates asylum etc etc
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More importantly do they have a boner garage?
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life came here to post this lmfao
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like ai are already writing academic papers i hear lol
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life Not going to lie, the Mooch kinda owns.
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Citizen Tayne posted:If they really seriously want better programmers they should ditch the coding boot camps and teach better critical thinking, logic, and math skillls. Period. pfffft what kinda stemlord needs liberal arts like math
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Shageletic posted:edit: CALZONE
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logikv9 posted:a coder will make a program that will render coding obsolete so good luck!! defund all universixties now
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How many hours are left in the debate that got started on Tuesday with poo poo-for-brained McCain ranting about some poo poo?
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MysteriousStranger posted:Coding jobs are being outsourced as fast as possible. The ones that aren't require a clearance. The best thing to do is get a clearance and work as a consultant coding what can't be outsourced for a firm that also makes money consulting on the outsourcing of all those jobs. Not really, coding outsourcing has been uniformly terrible
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Al! posted:like ai are already writing academic papers i hear lol those are called grad students
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Xelkelvos posted:They really need to include Economics somewhere in STEM education. there are already more coders than what is needed tbh, d-list companies will look forever for a-list talent because they think they deserve it when instead that talent can just go work for a-list companies like google et al, but they don't just hire anyone because there isn't an immediate need either compared to the first tech bubble
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punchymcpunch posted:gaius antonius muccio, centurion of the lxix legion, sez: sure thing fudgepax romana
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Citizen Tayne posted:If they really seriously want better programmers they should ditch the coding boot camps and teach better critical thinking, logic, and math skillls. Period. lol if ur a coder and need to be taught critical thinking!
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life 
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life
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one of my biggest reasons for continuing to draw breath is the anticipation of getting to see thousand and thousand of programmers become unemployed and destitute
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life ok i got my trump lol of the day thx fam
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I get why Bannon and Sessions havent quit but Reince is so beyond being effectual and the new guy has spent his first week making GBS threads on him in public.
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Tainen posted:lol this loving picture is real life so uh is mooch a member of the Saints Row
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Al! posted:good money until artificial intelligence automates it in a few years If AI has automated coding it's automated everything else so we're probably at mad max at that point
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Citizen Tayne posted:If they really seriously want better programmers they should ditch the coding boot camps and teach better critical thinking, logic, and math skillls. Period. they also make coding out to be cool to kids when in reality 99.9% of coding jobs are horrible bureaucratic bullshit
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Admiral Ray posted:lol if ur a coder and need to be taught critical thinking! if coders are supposed to be so good at critical thinking why are so many of them libertarians
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ScrubLeague posted:This is normal thats why its called a bourgeois democracy
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Xelkelvos posted:They really need to include Economics somewhere in STEM education. lol how about including economics in all forms of higher education, it's not like an english major gets economics at the moment and STEM folks don't
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