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Lysidas posted:melanin literally is electrically conductive under a lot of conditions and there's some evidence it acts as a biologically derived semiconductor, so screwy as it sounds it does seem remotely plausible that its could have some effect on electrical fingerprint reading unless you are grinding the pads of your fingers down with sandpaper to get fresh, wet cells every morning I seriously doubt it
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go play outside Skyler posted:have you ever tried making face reckognition algorithms work for black people? yes, it must be something special wrong/different with black people which human beings have no difficulty whatsoever face-recognizing
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okay cool go make a computer brain and feed it years of contextual information no big deal its definitely in no way more difficult to accomplish that task with skin tones that contrast less with the available sensors
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echinopsis posted:would be good if apps could prevent screenshots so there would be less snapchat things where aomeone trusted someone else lol
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hackbunny posted:yes, it must be something special wrong/different with black people "my eyes are up here" "oh I didn't realize, I'm sorry. It's just that you're black and therefore..."
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Jul 27, 2017 11:48
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would touchid/facial recognition have been shipped if it only worked for coloured folk?
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if everyone looked the same facial recognition would be easy
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BONGHITZ posted:if everyone looked the same facial recognition would be easy yeah mate it's trivial to distinguish between identical things
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ynohtna posted:would touchid/facial recognition have been shipped if it only worked for coloured folk? This right here always puts the lie to "It's hard!  "EDIT: Apropos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d16LNHIEJzs EDIT 2: All the photos of my paternal grandfather looks like the one at 1:29 in the video, he died a few months before I was born and I've never seen his face. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jul 27, 2017 |
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yeah I have a feeling that if we all had poor skin/features contrast, somehow we would have managed to make good color photographic film/facial recognition software
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hackbunny posted:yeah I have a feeling that if we all had poor skin/features contrast, somehow we would have managed to make good color photographic film/facial recognition software except i don't think it is a matter of poor contrast in an absolute sense, stuff just gets graded in a way which squashes out contrast in non-white faces, and algorithms get tuned on white faces
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:okay cool go make a computer brain and feed it years of contextual information no big deal its definitely in no way more difficult to accomplish that task with skin tones that contrast less with the available sensors racism: the easy choice the only thing that makes techbros angrier than confronting them about their biases is making them do actual work
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Microsoft tried to do good with their Kinect face/body tracking thing by using the IR spectrum instead of visible wavelengths but then some football player demo'd one at some release event and it didn't work. Ended up being because his dreads were in front of his shoulders and absorbed enough IR to throw the whole thing off but the first headlines were basically Kinect Is Racist. Distilling your ability as a brain on legs to interpret a human face in to an algorithm is hard to do and if you are constrained by not having IR data it becomes even harder. "Does is work for black people" is an insanely low bar by current standard and one that everyone should be able to clear out of the gate but there are always going to be problems and the question is how does the company respond, not that they necessarily happened in the first place
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Jul 27, 2017 18:11
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"it's great [when it works]" summarizes the last 20 years of microsoft
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:okay cool go make a computer brain and feed it years of contextual information no big deal its definitely in no way more difficult to accomplish that task with skin tones that contrast less with the available sensors supposedly the iphone face-thing is infrared based, probably to help with this
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shuffle & nano were discontinued today. rest in piss
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I know this might be news in YOSPOS but human brains are more sophisticated than computers and if you have a 'trivial' face recognition solution that works for everyone you should patent and license it out to big companies.
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Microsoft tried to do good with their Kinect face/body tracking thing by using the IR spectrum instead of visible wavelengths but then some football player demo'd one at some release event and it didn't work. Ended up being because his dreads were in front of his shoulders and absorbed enough IR to throw the whole thing off but the first headlines were basically Kinect Is Racist. Distilling your ability as a brain on legs to interpret a human face in to an algorithm is hard to do and if you are constrained by not having IR data it becomes even harder. "Does is work for black people" is an insanely low bar by current standard and one that everyone should be able to clear out of the gate but there are always going to be problems and the question is how does the company respond, not that they necessarily happened in the first place That was N'Gai Croal, from Newsweek. He is kind of removed from games journalism now, which is a shame. there is a shortage of AA voices in the mainstream games coverage
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sorry home-boys, the tech for recognizing black ppl as human just isn't possible yet. now if you'll excuse me, im very busy teaching this self-driving car to recognize a kangaroo
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Jul 27, 2017 23:25
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qirex posted:"it's great [when it works]" summarizes the last 20 years of microsoft its been my experience that with microsoft even when it works its encumbered by bizarre inadequacies and horrible ui id be overjoyed with "great when it works"
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:facial recognition phone unlocks seem like a bad idea its a bad ux and thats the only reason you need. ps: dont rely on fingerprints for security cuz theyre vulnerable to vacuuming your bank account while your passed out attacks.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:facial recognition phone unlocks seem like a bad idea
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:facial recognition phone unlocks seem like a bad idea
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ufarn posted:seems like you should at least be able to require a certain expression or something for it to work o face
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:shuffle & nano were discontinued today. rest in piss  rtxc-based iPods. over 400 million sold. your code lives on
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nano i get, but why the shuffle? it rules for working out. i guess timb just wants me to buy a fuckin watch already
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I don't know the reasons but getting components can be really difficult. the iPod classic was cancelled because they couldn't get hard drives and displays anymore for it. manufacturers shut down older production lines and there's no one to buy from. besides, the iPod team was dissolved years ago. there's no one to work on them now.
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itunes for windows 10 is easily the most piece of poo poo program i use on a regular basis, and i use IE 11 all day at work
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The Management posted:I don't know the reasons but getting components can be really difficult. the iPod classic was cancelled because they couldn't get hard drives and displays anymore for it. manufacturers shut down older production lines and there's no one to buy from. also sort of apples mo, even if it is a successful and established category, if it makes too little money and does not have potential for growth/innovation get rid of it. a shame, but not that weird
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you have to see this poo poo to believe it https://twitter.com/GalaxyKate/status/891348106691960832
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this Kate Compton person clearly doesn't understand the benefits of being a team player in a unique ~collaboration~ oriented workplace
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ufarn posted:you have to see this poo poo to believe it lol that's horrible
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ufarn posted:you have to see this poo poo to believe it looks like my office? except 100x prettier its 2017. google bose quietcomfort. you could set up a nursery next to my desk and i wouldnt notice.
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I'm pretty sure this building is going to be a disaster. looking forward to hearing from people that moved in
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if any distressed apple engineer is looking to quit their job over this very serious disaster!!! just let me know and ill replace you
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oh no the programmers might have a hard time concealing that they surf the web for 7 1/2 hours a day from their bosses what a horrible nightmare
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i just browse for 7 1/2 hours a day from home 
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Open layouts were a good idea until multiple monitor workstations were a thing. Looks awful with all the cables and when you look at one of your side monitors you're essentially staring at the person next to you.
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