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Jul 28, 2017 23:27
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Phi230 posted:Mius Front UI is the perfect UI and its all your fault for not grasping an easy to use an genius design baloogan parachute account located
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Jul 28, 2017 23:36
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Phi230 posted:Mius Front UI is the perfect UI and its all your fault for not grasping an easy to use an genius design It's not the UI that get's me with WW2:E but the weird way you interact with it. At least with Graviteam a right-click does what you expect it to. Or a menu behaves like you think it should. With this game it's just weird, like every bit of process and flow we've become used to in nearly every game is tossed out. So far it looks interesting, but man, the flow of how you interact with nearly everything is just funky. I'm not even sure what that's called, it's not the UI that's flawed, it's something even deeper than that.
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Jul 29, 2017 01:50
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I can't decide if the 'automatically move the mouse cursor to the next button you need to press' feature is mad or brilliant.
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Jul 29, 2017 03:18
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V for Vegas posted:I can't decide if the 'automatically move the mouse cursor to the next button you need to press' feature is mad or brilliant. Woah. Why isn't that on by default. So far it's a neat game, I've got to spend more time on it. I really miss the detailed reports on what actually happened. Everything feels wonky, but it's growing on me.   Cuz Stalin isn't going to save the day.
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Jul 29, 2017 03:25
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gradenko_2000 posted:That's unironically a grog pipe dream I have: Make this game, see how within a week someone mods it into a Final Solution simulator.
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Jul 29, 2017 06:30
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Better make sure the repair tech in your sub has a high enough skill or else the ice cream machine will break down and affect crew morale. So explain this poo poo to me. I read Iron Coffins, and the guy describes how they would sail for a few weeks at a time and the bread they took went mouldy after about a week so they were eating mouldy bread for weeks. Now the US had loving ICE CREAM MACHINES on their subs. How do you go to war against a country with loving ICE CREAM MACHINES on their subs when you're eating mouldy bread? I mean what the gently caress's wrong with you in the decision making part of your brain?
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Jul 29, 2017 12:36
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The ice cream machine thing isn't really a show of largesse or extravagance - it was more about giving sailors a source of milk that wouldn't immediately go bad. Same thing with the showers as being more for the cooks so that they'd be hygienic while preparing food.
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Jul 29, 2017 12:49
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So going back to the leftism/wargaming discussion, has anything been written about fulda gap? Your usual scenario in the 80s was for nato to be defensive with ussr hordes coming through but we have known now for a while this was never possible for the soviets. My knowledge of this stuff begins and ends with the novels Team Yankee and Red storm rising so I'm curious if there has been a reevaluation of NATOs position in the 70s/80s. Were they actually there for defense or was it a forward force ready to be tooled up to an offensive role? I never really got the impression that NATO was going for a defense in depth strategy which always seemed odd considering that would be more effective. "Waiting to bring over divisions from the US" seems more like a pretext to a US offensive than the other way around. But I really don't know much about this stuff.
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Jul 29, 2017 14:56
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Absolutely not there for an offensive. They didn't have the numbers, and knew it. Smart money would have had the Soviets hitting Northern Europe preferably. Fulda Gap, as you noted, was much more defensible. I'll try and find some of the articles I read that suggested a Northern push instead. Fulda was doable, just why attack the known point you're expected to attack? That seems uncharacteristic of the Soviets operational art. Friend of mine suggests the Dutch Corps area in particular would be a likely avenue of attack. Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 29, 2017 |
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Jul 29, 2017 16:20
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dtkozl posted:So going back to the leftism/wargaming discussion, has anything been written about fulda gap? Your usual scenario in the 80s was for nato to be defensive with ussr hordes coming through but we have known now for a while this was never possible for the soviets. Do you have an overview link handy why it wouldn't have been possible? I did not know this.
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Jul 29, 2017 16:26
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aphid_licker posted:Do you have an overview link handy why it wouldn't have been possible? I did not know this. Yeah I'm having a hard time finding real numbers which is why I asked, but there is a lot of stuff like this: https://www.csmonitor.com/1995/1024/24191.html about soviet military strength being far less than claimed, which, if true, would mean something like a soviet invasion across germany would be impossible. It just makes me wonder that if the US military knew this perhaps they built more towards a first strike policy in regards to europe rather than the defensive war they always claimed. Considering how many wars we started and the rather bellicose opinions a lot of the top brass had in the past century it isn't a stretch in my opinion.
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Jul 29, 2017 16:45
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Dandywalken posted:Absolutely not there for an offensive. They didn't have the numbers, and knew it. Well cooler heads knew it to be certain, but I think it depends on when and what scenario we are talking about. Some alt-history is required because of Vietnam but had LBJ's peace process not gotten torpedoed by the Nixon administration and the US still had the faith of the american people in conscription it certainly had the numbers available for the old college try. In real terms obviously nothing major could be planned in the 80s after vietnam, and considering how poorly the soviets did in afghanistan their military was in about as large a funk as ours was.
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Jul 29, 2017 16:50
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I seem to recall an article from years back where NATO's position was ostensibly that they had to be just strong enough that any Soviet invasion would need to use tactical nukes or fail. The thinking was that if the Soviets used tactical nukes, then the West could escalate to a large-scale exchange, culminating in full nuclear war. And the Soviets had to know that this was the case. If they felt that NATO was weak enough to be brushed aside conventionally, then they'd invade anyway and NATO might have to use nukes themselves and... So basically it was an extension of MAD.
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Jul 29, 2017 17:01
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gradenko_2000 posted:I seem to recall an article from years back where NATO's position was ostensibly that they had to be just strong enough that any Soviet invasion would need to use tactical nukes or fail. Right but it begs the question: If they (nato) just had to have enough to keep the status quo, why lie continuously about increasing USSR capabilities and continue to build up militarily? I realize the obvious answer is "because they love graft" but I don't think it is that ridiculous to presume some in the military/natsec fields had dreams of a first strike victory. Dick Cheney was so convinced of it he told bush to go to war over Georgia for example.
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Jul 29, 2017 17:13
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What exactly was lied about? The SS-19 and Tu22 ranges mentioned in the article aren't exactly indicative of the capabilities of the Soviet state as a whole.
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Jul 29, 2017 17:18
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Dandywalken posted:What exactly was lied about? The SS-19 and Tu22 ranges mentioned in the article aren't exactly indicative of the capabilities of the Soviet state as a whole. specifically they lied about soviet GNP and nuclear capability
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Jul 29, 2017 17:19
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Better make sure the repair tech in your sub has a high enough skill or else the ice cream machine will break down and affect crew morale. Also make sure no one steals any strawberries or the captain goes nuts
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Jul 29, 2017 17:49
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Unimpressed posted:So explain this poo poo to me. I read Iron Coffins, and the guy describes how they would sail for a few weeks at a time and the bread they took went mouldy after about a week so they were eating mouldy bread for weeks. Now the US had loving ICE CREAM MACHINES on their subs. How do you go to war against a country with loving ICE CREAM MACHINES on their subs when you're eating mouldy bread? I mean what the gently caress's wrong with you in the decision making part of your brain? American sailors are so weak and soft they need ice cream and showers to even consider fighting! What will the American soldiers do when their precious donuts don't arrive on time on the front lines? What if the coffee isn't hot or has no sugar in it? Surrender, that's what! This will be a walk in the park!
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Jul 29, 2017 18:27
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dtkozl posted:Right but it begs the question: If they (nato) just had to have enough to keep the status quo, why lie continuously about increasing USSR capabilities and continue to build up militarily? I realize the obvious answer is "because they love graft" but I don't think it is that ridiculous to presume some in the military/natsec fields had dreams of a first strike victory. Dick Cheney was so convinced of it he told bush to go to war over Georgia for example.
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Jul 29, 2017 21:42
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Speaking of leftism and wargaming, some kind of Decisive Campaigns Barbarossa game set in the Spanish Civil War would be fun. Play as the republicans and have to juggle the dozens of factions that fought for that side:Republican Scenario posted:
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Jul 29, 2017 22:05
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Wait what? http://www.politico.com/story/2010/02/us-pondered-military-use-in-georgia-032487 http://blogs.ft.com/the-world/2010/02/did-dick-cheney-want-to-start-a-war-with-russia/ Dick Cheney wanted to bomb the Roki tunnel that the Russians had to use to counterattack the Georgian forces during the Ossetia war which would have started a war with Russia. I've read that this caused a rift with Bush and helped end Cheney's influence in the administration.
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Jul 29, 2017 23:37
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dtkozl posted:http://www.politico.com/story/2010/02/us-pondered-military-use-in-georgia-032487 This was late in 2008 though. Cheney's influence had declined considerably by the 2006 midterms, when the Iraq War had become a bleeding ulcer.
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Jul 30, 2017 00:31
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where the gently caress is my YPG simulator 2017
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Jul 30, 2017 03:28
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Xenolalia posted:where the gently caress is my YPG simulator 2017 I want PissPigGranddad as a playable character.
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Jul 30, 2017 04:02
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Xenolalia posted:where the gently caress is my YPG simulator 2017 Insurgency: Sandstorm should be coming out semi-soon
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Jul 31, 2017 02:04
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I've been playing a bit of Panzer Campaigns lately, and I'm wondering what is supposed to be represented by "direct fire" from one hex to another, from one battalion to another, at the scale of 1 km per hex? I imagine that it's still rifle and machine gun fire for an infantry unit, but the distance seems a bit long if you're not assaulting.
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Aug 2, 2017 08:51
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gradenko_2000 posted:I've been playing a bit of Panzer Campaigns lately, and I'm wondering what is supposed to be represented by "direct fire" from one hex to another, from one battalion to another, at the scale of 1 km per hex? Well, if the unit is in the center of a hex and it was attacking, would it still be in the center?  I imagine that an infantry unit would also contain light artillery and/or infantry guns, not to mention mortars.
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Aug 2, 2017 13:05
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https://twitter.com/microtrailers/status/893086308486316034 Anyone know if Matrix is doing the thing where they give previous owners Steam keys, like they did for WitE?
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Aug 3, 2017 13:51
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Drone posted:https://twitter.com/microtrailers/status/893086308486316034 Yep, go to https://www.slitherine.com/members/ - you can already get your Steam key for WitW.
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Aug 3, 2017 14:29
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COOL CORN posted:Yep, go to https://www.slitherine.com/members/ - you can already get your Steam key for WitW. Oh neato. Now they just need to put WitP on Steam and I'll be happy.
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Aug 3, 2017 16:36
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Would any of yall be interested in a goon CM Italy mission perhaps?
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Aug 4, 2017 03:02
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Drone posted:Oh neato. At least then I could download WitP. It vanished from my Matrix account years ago and they couldn't get it back so they emailed me a link to download the press version instead.
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Aug 4, 2017 03:06
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Xenolalia posted:Would any of yall be interested in a goon CM Italy mission perhaps? As a let's play kinda thing? I'd be into that.
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Aug 4, 2017 04:09
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Drone posted:Oh neato. im happy being ignorant of all the hours of my life wasted on witp pbem games
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Aug 4, 2017 04:23
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Xenolalia posted:Would any of yall be interested in a goon CM Italy mission perhaps? Sure, I'd be down.
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Aug 4, 2017 04:40
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Aug 4, 2017 05:00
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Xenolalia posted:Would any of yall be interested in a goon CM Italy mission perhaps? Yeah! But you have to post a new spaghetti recipe for every update.
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Aug 4, 2017 05:23
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do italian formations have a higher need for water to cook their pasta in or did they cook their pasta in cans of tomatos ~just grog queries~
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