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Tias
May 25, 2008

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vyelkin posted:

Yeah necrosavants really come down to nets, stuns, heavy armour, and making sure anyone wounded is never exposed. You can game them a little bit and predict where they're going to go if you leave someone exposed, but the downside is then they're liable to get eaten.

God help you if they attack while you're escorting a caravan because the caravan hands and donkeys are just a meal waiting to happen.

or, as I am dealing with right now, while I command 10 militia jobbers in the defense of a city against undead horde :gonk:


Demon Of The Fall posted:

I've never attacked a caravan before, what type of loot does it usually have?

Depends. Usually some food, tools and sundries, but Supply caravans are a lot jucier( and are defended by regular military forces as a result).

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GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
We arent talking about attacking caravans, though, we are talking about the event that lets you steal from them while guarding them

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
Is there any reliable way to take on goblins? In my experience their whole loving team moves before even one of my guys, they get to attack a bunch of times per turn, and they ALWAYS hit, meaning my guys get chewed up to hell and back. Especially wolfriders. gently caress those AHAHAHAHA-going pricks.

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

Where do you get war scythes? I can't seem to find any in the weapon smiths I have browsed.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Flesnolk posted:

Is there any reliable way to take on goblins? In my experience their whole loving team moves before even one of my guys, they get to attack a bunch of times per turn, and they ALWAYS hit, meaning my guys get chewed up to hell and back. Especially wolfriders. gently caress those AHAHAHAHA-going pricks.

The trick is that they hit a lot but they don't do a ton of damage each time. Don't fight them until you have heavy armour and fairly high melee skill. The way I usually do it is concede that they're going to get one round of ranged attacks guaranteed, but you can limit them to one if you fight smart. Attack at night and exploit their extremely high initiative to make them waste a round (their entire squad will get a chance to move but will wait, expecting you to move towards them and into missile range. If you instead tell your entire team to wait as well, they will waste their entire first turn. Then when it's your turn again, move all your people as close to them as you can get. On round 2 they get a full round of missile attacks against you, but you're close enough to engage them in melee once they're done). Kite shields and heavy armour mean most of their missile attacks will miss anyway or won't do a ton of damage if they hit. Longaxes will take out their frontliners' shields in one hit and after that they're very vulnerable to a couple of bros just hacking them to death since they have shoddy armour and low health. Once you hit a hole in their line or flank around one of the edges, send a couple of bros to chase down the archers so they stop firing into your ranks, and clean up the frontliners who are left without support. Where this strategy gets tricky is when you're attacking high-level camps and they have overseers or shamans who can screw up your plans by doing a ton of crossbow damage or tying down half your squad. Or if they get a few lucky puncture hits in a row and you have to retreat a couple bros who get low on HP.

If their attacks are not only always hitting but also doing enough damage that they're outpacing you, and you're having trouble hitting them, it's possible you're just too low-level for the fight and are having trouble because your armour isn't thick enough and your attack and defence skills aren't high enough. One way around this would be to use spears and swords to give yourself additional chances to hit, but generally just avoid fighting goblins until you have heavy armour and some high-level bros who can handle them in melee pretty easily.

Arcturas posted:

Where do you get war scythes? I can't seem to find any in the weapon smiths I have browsed.

I believe you only get them as drops from ancient dead.

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
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On additional tip I'll throw out is that Goblins have high melee defense but are quite fragile, so it can be reasonable to prioritize weapons with accuracy bonuses against them. Their morale also stinks, so once they start going down their line will break quickly.

I would also advise caution when pressuring archers. It's definitely a good thing to do, but be mindful about putting a brother out in a position where he'll be stranded by a poison hit.


One of the best things about Battle Brothers is that the generic fantasy enemies actually live up to the hype - Goblins are murderous little fuckers with lots of infuriating tricks in battle (thank god the devs never thought to give them night vision), and a fully grown Orc warrior is a terrifying juggernaut who will smash aside all but the hardiest opposition.

Voyager I fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Jul 26, 2017

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Arcturas posted:

Where do you get war scythes? I can't seem to find any in the weapon smiths I have browsed.

ancient dead or sometimes as an alternate reward from a villages "Find the artifact" quests.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Arcturas posted:

Where do you get war scythes? I can't seem to find any in the weapon smiths I have browsed.

Ancient Honor Guards. Have fun!

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.
Fatigue management is such an important thing that I barely even put points in health anymore. Pretty much all my frontliners get Fatigue, Melee attack, and melee defence for every level. Back line varies depending on what their role is, but few things beat a tireless, hard as poo poo to hit line of pissed of bros with heavy weapons.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Put the health perk on those bro's if you have a spare spot and its basically a levels worth of health anyway, with the added bonus of the bro not taking an actual wound wound as often.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
I'm pretty sure it offers no special wound resistance - that's just a side effect of having higher health.

It also actually increases the benefit of picking health on level ups...

But yeah, I tend to favour fatigue, melee defense, and melee attack, with a few stops on Resolve (if it's particularly low) and Ranged defense (if I get a really good roll on it).

Ranged defense can be pretty important once my dudes start transitioning to two-handers.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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I'm pretty sure there is a perk( Colossus?) that provides some added resistance to criticals, as well as the iron skull one that also offers protection from head crits.

E: disregard, the higher your HP are, the better you resist crits, which is why Colossus helps.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Drakenel posted:

Fatigue management is such an important thing that I barely even put points in health anymore. Pretty much all my frontliners get Fatigue, Melee attack, and melee defence for every level. Back line varies depending on what their role is, but few things beat a tireless, hard as poo poo to hit line of pissed of bros with heavy weapons.

This works until you encounter heavy crossbows/spiked impalers. I'm pretty sure those enemies all have crossbow mastery, so that 70% ignore armor on a 50-70 dmg weapon. You need like 60 hp or steel brow to survive a headshot from those blighters. At least frontliers rarely get targeted by tier 3 xbows, thanks to kite shields

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist
Also, Goblin Shamans setting your bros up for Notched Blade Punctures are misery incarnate.

Drakenel
Dec 2, 2008

The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.
Both of those things you can work around though. either with kite shields or proper support in the back line. Or just plain careful positioning.

I'm not saying it's the 'one true way' or anything. Just what's consistently worked for me.

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
I've been addicted to this game since Friday and my wife is starting to get real mad at me.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Demon Of The Fall posted:

I've been addicted to this game since Friday and my wife is starting to get real mad at me.

Buy her a copy

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
She did watch me play for a bit last night but the most she does that's gaming related is candy crush

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
I really wish there was a way to save a loadout for someone and "revert to loadout" with a button press.

I can't play on Iron Man because I know I'll eventually be killed by the fact that I forgot to give half my team weapons when I pulled them out of the reserve, or my archers will be useless because I gave their ammo to someone else, or I forgot to give the team more shields since a bunch were destroyed in the last fight, or I just plain hosed up resetting them to their "normal" equipment after swapping mid-battle and now I'm gonna lose half a turn switching things around that I really needed.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Having an axeman destroy a bro's shield is one of the most dangerous things that can happen to them. Not because they could die that battle, but because they will inevitably start the next several battles without a shield as I forget to replace it over and over again.

After playing for awhile, my two biggest complaints are, I can never remember which bros are important and I want to save unless I go digging through their stats constantly, since I'm always moving them around and switching their weapons based on whatever is happening, and I can never remember the layout of the world, but I must instantly choose whether or not to accept this caravan/transport mission when it's offered without checking to see if wolfdovia is the next town over or it's on the other side of the world. Without save scumming of course.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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counterfeitsaint posted:


After playing for awhile, my two biggest complaints are, I can never remember which bros are important and I want to save unless I go digging through their stats constantly

you and me both. However, you can rename their titles to something that reminds you, like "The Duellant" or "Axemaster" or stuff.

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Piece of paper next to my keyboard. I write down names and short descriptions of what my dudes do and how important they are.

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice
I always give them appropriate nicknames. Seems to help.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



Always make sure to name the lovely jobbers you intend to fire things like Yamcha, Ma-Ti, Aquaman or loving ERLING.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

counterfeitsaint posted:

and I can never remember the layout of the world, but I must instantly choose whether or not to accept this caravan/transport mission when it's offered without checking to see if wolfdovia is the next town over or it's on the other side of the world. Without save scumming of course.

Once you've agreed a price, you can keep it on hold for a moment. You get to a screen where it shows the task (escort caravan to city in the north) and your payment (receive 1 million crowns on completion) and you have three options, I accept, I'll need some time to think, and I decline.

Hit I'll need some time to think, go out to the world map, look around to see where the other town is, then you can go back in and accept the contract or leave if you don't like it.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Yeah I generally just hit "i need time to think", realise the caravan is going to take me to bumfuck nowheresville and swiftly go "nah mate, find someone else".

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Just won the best Undead crisis! MVP is my two quick hands / bag of tricks very mediocre dudes who've helped me net the gently caress out of any and all necrosavants.

I thought there was going to be some sort of epic finale but it just killed an ordinary group in a fort and the crisis ended.

What should I be doing now?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Affi posted:

Just won the best Undead crisis! MVP is my two quick hands / bag of tricks very mediocre dudes who've helped me net the gently caress out of any and all necrosavants.

I thought there was going to be some sort of epic finale but it just killed an ordinary group in a fort and the crisis ended.

What should I be doing now?

Prepare to find and beat the Black Monolith :devil:

Miss Lonelyhearts
Mar 22, 2003


I give color schemes to the ones I care about the most. If a bro has matching armor and shield, I probably like him.

I also just watched The Blues Brothers last night and petition to change the thread name to - "Battle Brothers: We're On A Mission From Go(l)d

Miss Lonelyhearts fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jul 27, 2017

Wizard Styles
Aug 6, 2014

level 15 disillusionist
I need to kill more goblins. Two lairs, three uniques, easy.

Anybody on 2c9a5e, this is where I got them:


192/-15 armor and a decent kite shield (19/25, 48 durability, -12 Fatigue).


292/-17 helmet. Not a whole lot better than a regular one, and you have to fight goblins in a swamp for it, but any piece of unique heavy armor is good to have.

I'm not sure if those are there at game start or were (randomly) generated later since, well, it's day 221. But I avoid both goblins and swamps early on, so maybe I just never got around to attacking these places until now.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Miss Lonelyhearts posted:

I also just watched The Blues Brothers last night and petition to change the thread name to - "Battle Brothers: We're On A Mission From Go(l)d
I actually considered that when I made the thread but I decided I wanted to keep the reference just a little bit subtler. :v: (Then I came up with the opening for the OP to drive that poo poo into the ground anyway)

Affi
Dec 18, 2005

Break bread wit the enemy

X GON GIVE IT TO YA
Got a 387 unique armor for my sergeant. That is like so much better than anything else I've found.

Tias
May 25, 2008

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This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Exactly how viable are light armoured, nimble-y 2H brothers? Trying to run a couple, but without the right items of unique armour balancing the fatigue upkeep is tricky.

Miss Lonelyhearts
Mar 22, 2003


Nordick posted:

I actually considered that when I made the thread but I decided I wanted to keep the reference just a little bit subtler. :v: (Then I came up with the opening for the OP to drive that poo poo into the ground anyway)

Never saw that line in the OP, well played

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Tias posted:

Exactly how viable are light armoured, nimble-y 2H brothers? Trying to run a couple, but without the right items of unique armour balancing the fatigue upkeep is tricky.

Viable, imo, but you need someone with great stats and you got to build towards it from the very early game. They also always face the risk of getting killed by a lucky one shot. But hot drat can the deal out a ton of damage over the course of a fight.

Remember that Reach Advantage is percent based so you really want to put points into melee defense and melee attack every single round, and ranged defense and dodge and nimble are all important to surviving long enough to subsist off it. Make em a lone wolf too for another stat boost on top and set them loose with a chain or an axe and enjoy them until they die!

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
So where are the writeups that people have mentioned in the thread?

Demon Of The Fall
May 1, 2004

Nap Ghost
There's a beginners guide in the second post

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
That said, if anyone's made any big effort posts that y'all think should be in the second post too, point me to them and I'll put links in there.

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
The war has started but I'm not getting any war contracts. What gives?

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golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Flesnolk posted:

The war has started but I'm not getting any war contracts. What gives?

How long has it been? War contracts are just like any other noble contract. They take time to randomly spawn.

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