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Relin posted:By Thursday, the time crunch was on. One Senator proposed an amendment that would basically create a national single-payer option, expanding Medicaid universally; the Senate immediately voted that down, 57-0.
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during the buildup to Iraq, people at least thought Iraq was a threat, if only because they actively deluded themselves into thinking so this Russia sanctions poo poo is straight up "yeah let's gently caress with Putin to stick it to the prez" and it's ridiculous. the media loves it, though, and that's the real source of the stupidity Raskolnikov38 posted:what was the trick anyway, I don't think I caught what voting for the amendment would have allowed Mitch to do distraction. wanted to divide resistance to the GOP health bill by offering a doomed amendment to draw the Dems into another factional struggle over single payer. even if every Dem voted for it, which wouldn't happen, it still wouldn't have the votes to pass
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The thing I hate about the whole Russia thing was it was to be expected, but the unexpected thing was that America just hasn't bothered to care about preventing such a thing so it left itself wide open to Russia messing around with us. But noooo, we can't come off as weak due to our own fault because social media and technology are magical realms of ultimate power. It's like living in a lions den and not maintaining the house and then mad at the lion when it finally damages your house that was in disrepair due to neglect.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:These people also think Russia would be easy to defeat as they think it has a political structure and society rotten all the way through with a reduced capability to defend themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJjhktV-TfI
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GalacticAcid posted:a USA vs russia war would mean the end of humanity, full stop sounds good
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True folk song of the Russian people.
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GalacticAcid posted:a USA vs russia war would mean the end of humanity, full stop What's the scariest of all is the most eager for a war with Russia do not think it will go nuclear.
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AstheWorldWorlds posted:These people also think Russia would be easy to defeat as they think it has a political structure and society rotten all the way through with a reduced capability to defend themselves. Surly this time when we kick in the door the whole rotten structure will fall apart
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It was an extremely non robust version of single payer that was probably easy to sabotoge after the fact It would also not be very fortunate to have the introduction of single payer overseen by a party that would implement it in the worst way possible, on purpose, just to make a point.
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Conservatives may be loveless, humorless assholes but they sure know how to troll. Meanwhile Dems are signing Nah Nah Nah.
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bad person gets it before bad dems https://twitter.com/jamyerson/status/891346169447710720
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The runup to the Iraq War, I have to say, was a more frightening zeitgeist since it affected most of the population. This spasm of hawkish retardation seems confined to the (discredited in the public's eyes, I believe) pundit class. I was quite young in 2002 / 2003 but my family was staunchly antiwar so I was conscious of the prevailing mentality.
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UHD posted:so are we doomed yet you've been doomed since birth
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That it's not yet quite as bad is good If anything remotely like 9/11 happens again both parties will be running rival Nuremberg rallies
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GalacticAcid posted:The runup to the Iraq War, I have to say, was a more frightening zeitgeist since it affected most of the population. This spasm of hawkish retardation seems confined to the (discredited in the public's eyes, I believe) pundit class. Honestly I'm more concerned about the current zeitgeist. The fear and anger is directed inwards. There's no rallying point and everyone can feel the whole thing fraying.
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steinrokkan posted:It would also not be very fortunate to have the introduction of single payer overseen by a party that would implement it in the worst way possible, on purpose, just to make a point. well the dems dont want to implement it in any form 
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Honestly I'm more concerned about the current zeitgeist. The fear and anger is directed inwards. There's no rallying point and everyone can feel the whole thing fraying. I think that is fair. It's very different. The dangers of national unity vs the dangers of divicisive rancor I suppose.
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lol what am I doing making earnest posts in the suck zone let's bring back tankie Tim Kaine
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GalacticAcid posted:The runup to the Iraq War, I have to say, was a more frightening zeitgeist since it affected most of the population. This spasm of hawkish retardation seems confined to the (discredited in the public's eyes, I believe) pundit class. same with my nuclear family. I even knew it was a lie so I wasn't shocked. Like if a 12 year old kid can put two and two together in their underdeveloped brain and think its really loving dubious... because it is!  Freedom Fries were a thing. I mean I get it was a dark trying time, but they exploited people's fear and turned it into jingoism because nobody had an answer at the time other than "it happened because our president is a dumb gently caress up" and they were able to easily deflect that and get his approvals up just for war. It is pretty insane if you just slow down to think, but its 2 l8 fer that kind of thing. That'll be up to the future historians to decide as they access their data cubes and find millions of shitposts like these going "Iraq was a huge mistake, engineered out of deceit" to confirm their sources. Yer welcome by the way future historian  As of now we might as well just collect rain water in our mouths figuring out what to do next. Maybe if we just default nobody would have to worry about money anymore or at least stop defining it as a social value. Car culture is death. Regular fries and a chocolate shake please. I need that salt and sugar stat.
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I think historians will look at the 2000s as an era of ridiculous corruption and an impotent justice system considering no one was prosecuted for the Iraq War or the 2008 Financial Collapse.
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GalacticAcid posted:I think that is fair. It's very different. The dangers of national unity vs the dangers of divicisive rancor I suppose. I spent a long time on that tiny post because I didn't want to understate how bad the result of that zeitgeist was. For one, the current situation
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Concerned Citizen posted:remember how the bush admin used to raise the terror level whenever they wanted to change a news story Lol yeah didn't local news report on that poo poo daily?
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Concerned Citizen posted:remember how the bush admin used to raise the terror level whenever they wanted to change a news story and then we kept a lot of the bullshit regressive republicans added just cause obama felt like it. oh, also didn't prosecute a single person for anything
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fits my needs posted:Lol yeah didn't local news report on that poo poo daily? fox news had it on their ticker he literally raised it a few days before election day without any justification at all, just because he thought it'd win him a few more votes over kerry
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Rand alPaul posted:I think historians will look at the 2000s as an era of ridiculous corruption and an impotent justice system considering no one was prosecuted for the Iraq War or the 2008 Financial Collapse. I mean, that's the reality, but considering bourgeois liberal bias it'll be more like  where Obama was the Emperor God-King who had sworn to save humanity, blah blah blah (there are people on NeoGAF who literally believe this)
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Concerned Citizen posted:remember how the bush admin used to raise the terror level whenever they wanted to change a news story Haha I forgot about this. Taintrunner posted:I mean, that's the reality, but considering bourgeois liberal bias it'll be more like There was a recent historical survey of presidents and I was shocked at how high Obama placed and how many people griped he should have been higher.
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